audio,text,speaker_id,emotion,language https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000000_speaker_0.wav,New Hubble images of Comet 3I Atlas.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000001_speaker_0.wav,"And in Space Bites plus, staring right down the jet of an actively feeding supermassive black hole.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000002_speaker_0.wav,"All this and more, in this week's Space Bites.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000003_speaker_0.wav,"[digital screen click] All right, this is it, this is the moment we've all been waiting for.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000004_speaker_0.wav,"Uh, Webb has been looking at the planets, one by one, in the TRAPPIST-1 system.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000005_speaker_0.wav,"And finally, when Webb arrived, it was the right machine, capable of being able to observe atmospheres on exoplanets.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000006_speaker_0.wav,What do we find?,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000007_speaker_0.wav,"And so far, nothing.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000008_speaker_0.wav,"So the closest two planets to the TRAPPIST-1 star, these are TRAPPIST-1b and TRAPPIST-1c.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000009_speaker_0.wav,"And it was always assumed that this was a very long-shot chance to be able to detect anything, but the hope was that you would get something like a Venus, where you've got these Earth-sized worlds orbiting close to the star, they're superheated, thick atmospheres of carbon dioxide.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000010_speaker_0.wav,But they pretty conclusively have been found to have no atmosphere.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000011_speaker_0.wav,"And that's not very surprising because TRAPPIST-1 is a super flare star, which means that it generates a tremendous amount of flare activity that would scour the atmospheres off of any planets that are too close.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000012_speaker_0.wav,"Now, the first planet that is just barely within the habitable zone is TRAPPIST-1d.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000013_speaker_0.wav,"We've been anticipating this day for a very long time, and the results are no atmosphere detected.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000014_speaker_0.wav,"Now, this doesn't mean there's no atmosphere.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000015_speaker_0.wav,"It just means that there was no atmosphere detected, and there's a couple of possibilities that could explain that.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000016_speaker_0.wav,It's just not enough atmosphere to be able to make this detection.,speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000017_speaker_0.wav,"But the other possibility is that it's actually a very thick atmosphere, like Venus, but just such a thick layer of clouds at the top that it's obscuring any of the elements underneath.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000018_speaker_0.wav,And we didn't get any detection of carbon dioxide or methane or water vapor in the atmosphere.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000019_speaker_0.wav,"It's at best inconclusive, and at worst, there's just no atmosphere there at all.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000020_speaker_0.wav,But it's still early days and astronomers are still developing their techniques on how to be able to make these kinds of observations.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000021_speaker_0.wav,"And I had a fantastic interview with Megan Giacaluca earlier this year, where she went through each of the planets in order and gave us sort of a sneak peek of what we might expect with TRAPPIST-1d.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000022_speaker_0.wav,Stay tuned.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000023_speaker_0.wav,"But if you want more information, we've got a story about this by Evan Goff.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000024_speaker_0.wav,"[Digital screen click] Now, speaking of TRAPPIST-1, we've got more information about the star itself, and this is probably the biggest challenge that astronomers are dealing with, is that because TRAPPIST-1 is a flare star, in other words, it puts out a lot of very powerful flares, very active, it's really difficult to distinguish what is the signal of the light that's coming from the planets around",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000025_speaker_0.wav,"Once you get a sense of just how active the star is, then you can set that as a baseline to then tease out the atmospheric information of the planets in orbit around it.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000026_speaker_0.wav,And we know that the star is covered by various magnetic features.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000027_speaker_0.wav,"You've got sunspots, you've got faculae, you've got w- areas of convection and that magnetic fields that are twisting and turning, and this is all contributing to the changes in brightness of the star.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000028_speaker_0.wav,When are we seeing a flare or some kind of magnetic event on the surface of the star?,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000029_speaker_0.wav,"[static] All right, let's move on to Comet 3I Atlas, which is the third interstellar object to pass through the solar system.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000030_speaker_0.wav,"And unlike the previous two, 'Oumuamua and Borisov, 3I Atlas, we are seeing it inbound into the inner solar system, but it is moving faster than any interstellar object that we've seen so far today.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000031_speaker_0.wav,"And its coma, the ball of gas and dust around the central nucleus, and the tail are starting to form.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000032_speaker_0.wav,"And normally a comet within the solar system, say from the Oort cloud, is only giving off between 3 and 5% of its surface is giving away water when it's this distance away from the sun.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000033_speaker_0.wav,And so you have less heavier elements.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000034_speaker_0.wav,"This is gonna be really interesting as the comet gets closer, as it reaches higher amounts of sublimation from the radiation coming from the sun, and then astronomers are gonna be able to watch it through this entire process once it crosses that closest point and starts to move away from the sun again.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000035_speaker_0.wav,How quickly will that tail die down?,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000036_speaker_0.wav,You'll get even more information about the star system that the comet came from.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000037_speaker_0.wav,"One other thing is that normally at this point when you see a comet, you see cyanogen gas coming off a comet.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000038_speaker_0.wav,"But normally at this point, you see cyanogen gas coming off of the comet, and yet so far, we don't see any of that gas.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000039_speaker_0.wav,We've got a longer story about that by Andy Thomas Wick.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000040_speaker_0.wav,"[static] And, of course, the Hubble Space Telescope has joined in the fun and taken its first images of Comet 3I Atlas.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000041_speaker_0.wav,"So here is your picture of 3I Atlas taken by Hubble, and this picture was taken at 3.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000042_speaker_0.wav,All of this gas and dust is starting to surround the central nucleus of the comet.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000043_speaker_0.wav,"And of course, as we said, a lot of this, a surprising amount of this, is water, and you're starting to see that tail start to form, and this is just getting bigger and bigger and bigger.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000044_speaker_0.wav,"As it gets closer to the sun, there's more radiation pressure, it's starting to push away this material.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000045_speaker_0.wav,"You're gonna see that big, wonderful tail from an interstellar object.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000046_speaker_0.wav,"So thanks to Hubble, we're learning a ton more about this.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000047_speaker_0.wav,"And again, like we're still, you know, it's not gonna get to its closest point until October.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000048_speaker_0.wav,We've got lots more time to study this object as it gets closer and closer and then gets farther and farther.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000049_speaker_0.wav,"[static] All right, let's go back to talking about little red dots.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000050_speaker_0.wav,What do we know about them?,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000051_speaker_0.wav,They are bright and they are early.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000052_speaker_0.wav,"They're within the first billion years after the Big Bang, and they're putting out a surprising amount of radiation in a very tight place.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000053_speaker_0.wav,And so how do you get that much radiation from such a small grouping?,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000054_speaker_0.wav,Like they probably have about one tenth the size of a galaxy like the Milky Way.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000055_speaker_0.wav,One possibility is that you've got a supermassive black hole that is starting to feed and is putting out large amounts of radiation.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000056_speaker_0.wav,The other possibility is that you've just got a very compact galaxy where you've got lots of stars in a small area.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000057_speaker_0.wav,"But as we talked about last week, if it is a supermassive black hole, not only would you expect to see large amounts of the radiation seen by Webb, but you would detect the radiation with other telescopes in other wavelengths, like in x-rays, and we don't see that.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000058_speaker_0.wav,"And so if these things are rotating very quickly, which is what is more common, then you get this centripetal outward force that causes the galaxy and the stars to get more distributed.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000059_speaker_0.wav,And so that might help explain why you can get all those stars that much closer together.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000060_speaker_0.wav,"You know, the, the quest to understand these little red dots goes on, and we still have decades left to try and figure this out before we lose Webb.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000061_speaker_0.wav,And we've got a story on this from Mark Thompson.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000062_speaker_0.wav,"Just for comparison, the supermassive black hole at the heart of the Milky Way, Sgr A*, contains 4.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000063_speaker_0.wav,"There's probably 100 million solar mass black hole at the heart of Andromeda, and astronomers have found ones that have billions of times the mass of the sun.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000064_speaker_0.wav,"And now they think they found the most massive, one with $36-Billion times the mass of the sun.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000065_speaker_0.wav,"And the gravity around the cosmic horseshoe is so strong that it has a beautiful Einstein lens surrounding it, where you've got almost this perfect circle of gravitational lensing around this galaxy.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000066_speaker_0.wav,Astronomers have used several methods to try to measure the mass of the black hole at the heart of this galaxy.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000067_speaker_0.wav,"And so one method is that they measure the pathways that the light is taking, that as it gets closer to the center of the galaxy, it's pulled by the super massive black hole, and that allows you to measure how much mass is pulling on that light.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000068_speaker_0.wav,The other method is to be able to actually measure the movements of the stars at the center of the galaxy.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000069_speaker_0.wav,And they're going very fast.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000070_speaker_0.wav,"In fact, this is how they discovered the super massive black hole at the heart of the Milky Way.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000071_speaker_0.wav,They did the same thing with the cosmic horseshoe and measured the stars moving 400 kilometers per second around nothing.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000072_speaker_0.wav,"I'm sure this record will be broken again, but still, uh, very interesting.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000073_speaker_0.wav,And you can learn more about the method they used to figure this out by reading the story from Evan Gough.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000074_speaker_0.wav,"[tape scratching] When our sun dies, it will become a white dwarf star.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000075_speaker_0.wav,And that accounts for about 50% the mass of the sun.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000076_speaker_0.wav,And if a white dwarf eventually feeds off some partner star and gets up to 1.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000077_speaker_0.wav,So how did it get that massive?,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000078_speaker_0.wav,"Well, one possibility is that it fed off some partner star and isn't doing that anymore.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000079_speaker_0.wav,"But the other possibility is that it merged with another white dwarf star, and some really valuable clues there.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000080_speaker_0.wav,"When astronomers observed this white dwarf, they detected the presence of carbon in the atmosphere of the star.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000081_speaker_0.wav,"But not only do you see carbon, you see other heavier elements, like silicon or neon.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000082_speaker_0.wav,"But in this case, they didn't find those heavier elements.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000083_speaker_0.wav,And so it appears that you got two white dwarfs that merged to become a 1.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000084_speaker_0.wav,"[tape scratching] Every week we do a vote on our channel where you tell us what you thought was the best space news story of the week, and the winner this week was, what?",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000085_speaker_0.wav,What a surprise.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000086_speaker_0.wav,[children cheering] Planet found at Alpha Centauri.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000087_speaker_0.wav,[mouse clicking] Click on the notifications bell [bell ringing] and then train the algorithm.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000088_speaker_0.wav,[tape scratching] On to Mars.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000089_speaker_0.wav,"One of the big challenges in driving a rover round on Mars is the regolith, and we learned this when NASA's Spirit Rover got stuck in the sand as it was trying to go across an area on Mars.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000090_speaker_0.wav,"Its wheels got stuck, it wasn't able to point its solar panels towards the sun, and then it wasn't able to keep itself warm during the night on Mars, and it died.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000091_speaker_0.wav,So don't get caught in the sand is like rule number one for Mars rover drivers.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000092_speaker_0.wav,Does that look like sand?,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000093_speaker_0.wav,Let's avoid it.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000094_speaker_0.wav,Try to stay on the rock.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000095_speaker_0.wav,You can reduce the weight of your rover.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000096_speaker_0.wav,"You know, you tie ropes to it and then it appears like it's one third the normal weight is what it would feel like when it's on Mars.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000097_speaker_0.wav,"But you can't change the weight of the individual particles of the sand, and the sand changes differently when it's in a lower gravity environment.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000098_speaker_0.wav,And so researchers are now trying to split the difference.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000099_speaker_0.wav,They've developed a really cool simulation on computer where they simulate the effect of a rover going on sand.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000100_speaker_0.wav,"They are able to simulate the particles of the sand, and then they compare what their simulation tells them to what they actually see when they drive the rovers around in the real world, and then compare that to what they've learned about driving around on the surface of Mars.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000101_speaker_0.wav,We've got a story about this from Evan Goff.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000102_speaker_0.wav,"[tape scratching] All right, now some really cool pictures from Mars.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000103_speaker_0.wav,"So first up, this is an image of the Archean Fossae region, taken by the European Space Agency's Mars Express spacecraft.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000104_speaker_0.wav,It has a region of deep cracks and valleys with alternating chunks of raised and lowered ground.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000105_speaker_0.wav,"This creates this jagged landscape, where you've got these cracks and ridges that can run for hundreds of kilometers, and they can go down to depths of a couple of kilometers.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000106_speaker_0.wav,"This wasn't the end of the activity in the region, because planetary scientists, when they look at these images, can see evidence that there were rock glaciers moving through this area, continuing to scour the bottoms of these cracks.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000107_speaker_0.wav,"And there are no glaciers in this region on Mars today, but we know that the axial tilt of Mars changes pretty dramatically over time, because it doesn't have a large moon to keep it stable.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000108_speaker_0.wav,"And so the axial tilt of Mars can sort of roam back and forth, and there was a time in the past where this region was more oriented to a place where there were glaciers operating on the surface of Mars, and then other times when it was tilted away and you didn't get glaciers.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000109_speaker_0.wav,"And so just by looking at this region on Mars, scientists are able to do detective work to figure out what the climate was on Mars in the past.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000110_speaker_0.wav,We've got a story about this by Mark Thompson.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000111_speaker_0.wav,"Uh, the hills are about 65 kilometers away, and sort of give you a sense of perspective on, on how far you can see on the surface of Mars.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000112_speaker_0.wav,"And then there's a whole bunch of rocks, some which are relatively close.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000113_speaker_0.wav,So it just shows sort of how busy Perseverance has been on the surface of Mars.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000114_speaker_0.wav,We've got a story about this by Matt Williams that goes into a lot more detail about all the individual objects that you can see in this picture.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000115_speaker_0.wav,"[tape scratching] Now, you're watching this week's Space Bites, and, you know, there's a lot of space news in it, but this is just a fraction of the space news that we're covering at Universe Today.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000116_speaker_0.wav,This is a fast radio burst that was detected when it was just three billion years after the Big Bang.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000117_speaker_0.wav,And then another story about how artificial intelligence could be used to prevent satellite collisions.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000118_speaker_0.wav,And then astronomers capture the rare birth of black hole activity.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000119_speaker_0.wav,"Now, these are just some of the stories.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000120_speaker_0.wav,I write a weekly email newsletter that goes out on Fridays.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000121_speaker_0.wav,"I write every single word in it, you know, by human for humans.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000122_speaker_0.wav,"Well, good news, there is.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000123_speaker_0.wav,"We offer it totally for free, with no ads, over on Patreon.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000124_speaker_0.wav,"And this week's bonus story, the Eye of Sauron, a supermassive black hole jet pointed directly at the Earth.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000125_speaker_0.wav,"And I'll put a link in the show notes, and you can just watch it right now.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000126_speaker_0.wav,"[tape scratching] I'm gonna talk about clickbait in a second, but first, I'd like to thank our patrons.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000127_speaker_0.wav,"Thanks to Abe Kingston, Andrew Gross, Bradley Koering, Brian Bode, Ceridwen, Chuck Hawkins, Commander Beluck, Si Nelson, David Gilton, David Matz, Evan Pro, Greg Feely, Hudson Moore, James Clark, Jeremy Madden, Jim Burke, Jordan Young, Russell Switz, Michael Purcell, Monto, Nick Borquez, Nick Salari, Paul Robuck, Ron Kaidu, Robeck, Sean Sergeant, Stephen Fowler-Melly, Vlad Chiplin, and Wolfgang Klaus, who support us at the Master of the Universe level, and all our patrons.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000128_speaker_0.wav,All your support means the universe to us.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000129_speaker_0.wav,"Every week, no matter what we do, we get people accusing us of doing clickbait.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000130_speaker_0.wav,"On the one hand, people didn't like us having a picture of me look like a blue Avatar/Aang The Last Airbender, and that I was humiliating myself for the clicks.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000131_speaker_0.wav,"Um, and, uh, sorry, I think it was hilarious.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000132_speaker_0.wav,"I guess you won't watch this, because you, uh, left the channel at this point.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000133_speaker_0.wav,"Uh, but, you know, like, whatever, we're gonna have fun, and I don't care.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000134_speaker_0.wav,"[laughs] And A- uh, Anton, when he, when he made the thumbnail, he's like, ""Either you're gonna love this or you're gonna hate it.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000135_speaker_0.wav,"Uh, but the, the sort of clickbait accusation, I think, is one that's always really tricky, because the reality is, is that we're on this really competitive platform, which is YouTube, and that we are fighting against people who are using AI to generate thousands of videos a day.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000136_speaker_0.wav,"Uh, go ahead, go into the search box, type JWST, or Big Bang, or anything, and then sort by the most recent, and you will just see AI slop for the entire page.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000137_speaker_0.wav,Very rarely do you actually see real videos anymore.,speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000138_speaker_0.wav,"And a lot of the more popular videos get 10 times more views than we do in actually, like, doing the reporting, having people work on this stuff by hand, producing hilarious nerdy thumbnails by hand.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000139_speaker_0.wav,This is what we're up against.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000140_speaker_0.wav,"I think, you know, clickbait is when you say something and it is, like, not true.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000141_speaker_0.wav,"Like, you've [laughs] ...",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000142_speaker_0.wav,"you're lying, or you are deeply, uh, over exaggerating what it is that's been found.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000143_speaker_0.wav,And I think we try to walk that line.,speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000144_speaker_0.wav,"But obviously, it's always, you know, up to the eye of the beholder.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000145_speaker_0.wav,""" Other people, uh, they are enraged the moment they see anything that is, uh, clickbait.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000146_speaker_0.wav,"And yet, the reality is that if we didn't push the boundaries, nobody would watch our videos at all.",speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000147_speaker_0.wav,Like a tree falling in the forest that nobody hears.,speaker_0,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000148_speaker_0.wav,"So, I know this is always gonna be an issue that people are gonna argue about, and, uh, it's fine.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000149_speaker_0.wav,"We have fun, and we focus on our journalism, and that's the thing that's most important to us.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000150_speaker_0.wav,"And yet, we have to play the game.",speaker_0,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000151_speaker_0.wav,"That's the YouTube game, and so we will keep playing at the best of our ability.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000152_speaker_0.wav,"All right, we'll see you next week.",speaker_0,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000153_speaker_1.wav,"[instrumental music] Also in this podcast, 10 years after 71 people died in an unventilated truck abandoned in Austria, we hear from their families.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000154_speaker_2.wav,"Imagining, like, putting a lot of people in one truck and no air, it's just, like, a disaster.",speaker_2,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000155_speaker_1.wav,"[instrumental music] Over the past few days, we've focused on peace efforts in Ukraine, but behind closed doors, there have also been strenuous negotiations towards ending the fighting in Gaza.",speaker_1,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000156_speaker_1.wav,"On Monday, Hamas told the BBC it had accepted a proposal by Arab mediators involving a 60-day truce and the release of half of the hostages.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000157_speaker_1.wav,"On Tuesday, an official in Prime Minister Netanyahu's office has told the BBC they would only agree to a ceasefire if all 50 remaining hostages, dead and alive, are released.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000158_speaker_1.wav,The latest proposals were part of a last-ditch effort by Qatar and Egypt to secure a ceasefire and a hostage release agreement to potentially avoid a major Israeli offensive to fully occupy Gaza.,speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000159_speaker_1.wav,David Mensa is spokesman for the Israeli government.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000160_speaker_3.wav,"The Prime Minister has laid out a plan for the future, uh, of Gaza, and that means our ambitions are no more.",speaker_3,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000161_speaker_3.wav,No more partial plans.,speaker_3,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000162_speaker_3.wav,No more dancing to the Hamas tune.,speaker_3,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000163_speaker_3.wav,We want all of our hostages back.,speaker_3,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000164_speaker_3.wav,We're not interested in partial deals.,speaker_3,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000165_speaker_3.wav,All the hostages must be released immediately.,speaker_3,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000166_speaker_1.wav,"I asked our correspondent in Jerusalem, Amir Nader, if progress could still be made.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000167_speaker_4.wav,It's certainly dashing hopes.,speaker_4,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000168_speaker_4.wav,"This isn't, as you've mentioned, the formal response by Israel to, uh, Hamas' agreement to that proposal, but it does seem quite strong, the language that we're hearing from Israeli government officials.",speaker_4,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000169_speaker_4.wav,"However, others have also pointed out this hardening of language from the government in recent days, and we heard just in the past few days Prime Minister Netanyahu talking about no more partial deals and that Israel was pushing for the full release of Israeli hostages.",speaker_4,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000170_speaker_4.wav,"We obviously don't know if this is part of a negotiating tactic as well, and we also don't know when an official Israeli response might come, but the deal as we understand it did include some softening of them, H- Hamas' position and so there were some hopes that it would receive a positive response in Israel.",speaker_4,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000171_speaker_1.wav,We've heard from a White House briefing that the United States continues to discuss that ceasefire proposal for Gaza that Hamas has accepted.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000172_speaker_1.wav,Can you tell us more about what we believe is in those proposals?,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000173_speaker_4.wav,"So we understand from sources who are close to the talks, close to the negotiation, the discussions happening in Egypt, that it is essentially the same deal that was originally drafted by the US envoy Steve Wyckoff.",speaker_4,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000174_speaker_4.wav,"It would see prisoners being released from Israeli prisons, going back to Gaza.",speaker_4,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000175_speaker_4.wav,"It would see, uh, Israeli troops withdraw from parts of the Gaza Strip to...",speaker_4,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000176_speaker_4.wav,"And there had been some softening, it seemed like, of Hamas' position on those points.",speaker_4,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000177_speaker_4.wav,"And now, if we are to understand the messaging from these officials close to the Prime Minister, it looks like those concessions aren't enough for the Israeli side, and they'll push for a full release of Israeli hostages.",speaker_4,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000178_speaker_1.wav,Amir Nader.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000179_speaker_1.wav,President Trump has ruled out sending American troops to Ukraine as part of any peacekeeping deal.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000180_speaker_1.wav,"In his first interview since talks at the White House with President Zelensky, Mr.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000181_speaker_1.wav,He also repeated that Kiev would not join NATO.,speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000182_speaker_1.wav,"After confirming US troops would not be sent to Ukraine, Mr.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000183_speaker_5.wav,"We've got the European nations, and they'll front load it, and they'll have...",speaker_5,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000184_speaker_5.wav,"Some of them, France and Germany, uh, UK, they wanna have, you know, boots on the ground.",speaker_5,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000185_speaker_5.wav,"I think, I think Putin is tired of it.",speaker_5,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000186_speaker_5.wav,We're gonna find out about President Putin in the next couple of weeks.,speaker_5,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000187_speaker_1.wav,"Our North America correspondent, Aruna De Mukarji, gave us this update.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000188_speaker_6.wav,"We still don't have a timeline of that, which I think is very critical.",speaker_6,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000189_speaker_6.wav,"Because, uh, you know, only after that can there be a possibility of a trilateral.",speaker_6,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000190_speaker_6.wav,"And the second aspect that remains the focus at the moment in conversations would be the attempts by the US along with their allies to try and work out those security guarantees which they feel will be critical for Ukraine going forward, for Ukraine's security.",speaker_6,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000191_speaker_6.wav,"Now, uh, the obvious part is, which we've heard from, uh, the European leaders, is Europe w- is likely to have, you know, the ability to deploy, uh, troops on the ground, although that, the modalities of all of that are still being worked out.",speaker_6,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000192_speaker_6.wav,"Well, just reiteration of what we've, uh, heard, uh, from President Trump.",speaker_6,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000193_speaker_6.wav,"Uh, there were a lot of questions, you know, uh, that revolved around what many feel to be confusion about the meetings that President Trump, uh, is trying to have with, uh, President Putin.",speaker_6,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000194_speaker_1.wav,Arunoday Mukherji.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000195_speaker_1.wav,"Well, no reaction so far from President Putin himself about all of this.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000196_speaker_1.wav,"But one of his advisors, the former deputy foreign minister, Andrey Fedorov told the BBC that Monday's meeting between Donald Trump, Volodymyr Zelenskyy and other European leaders was significant for Moscow.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000197_speaker_7.wav,It was clear demonstration that transatlantic unity is still existing.,speaker_7,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000198_speaker_7.wav,"There were a lot of hopes in Moscow that it will be not so, but it has happened.",speaker_7,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000199_speaker_7.wav,"Now we are standing on even more serious period of talks, negotiations, because after yesterday's meeting in Washington, there are no way to step back.",speaker_7,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000200_speaker_1.wav,So what's next then?,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000201_speaker_1.wav,"Earlier I spoke to our diplomatic correspondent, Paul Adams.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000202_speaker_8.wav,"First of all, a- an end to the fighting, and then some guarantees that Russia will not attack again in the future.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000203_speaker_8.wav,"A- and, and that is not a simple matter at all.",speaker_8,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000204_speaker_8.wav,"That's gonna involve not just pieces of paper, but all kinds of ways in which Ukraine's long-term security is guaranteed through the provision of Western military equipment, the presence in Ukraine of supporting elements from the so-called coala- coalition of the willing, to a whole host of issues.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000205_speaker_8.wav,And then of course there is the question of territory.,speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000206_speaker_8.wav,"And I think the Ukrainians know perfectly well that painful sacrifices are looming, that some of the territory that Russia has taken over in the past 11 years, starting with Crimea in 2014, is very, very unlikely ever to be returned.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000207_speaker_8.wav,"So what you tend to hear Ukrainian officials talking about is, ""Well we're not going to legally recognize Russia's conquest of any of our sovereign territory.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000208_speaker_8.wav,We will cling to that principle ferociously.,speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000209_speaker_8.wav,""" But there are examples of other conflicts around the world, frozen conflicts in which, uh, the territorial status was put to one side and people just sort of got on.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000210_speaker_8.wav,"A- and I suppose that is sort of what Ukra- Ukraine is hoping for, that, that no one is going to be persuaded to legally recognize Russia's occupation of, say, the Donbass.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000211_speaker_1.wav,"Well on that, we also had Fedorov admit that if Putin were to conquer the remaining parts of Donetsk, it may take him several years.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000212_speaker_8.wav,"Oh, absolutely.",speaker_8,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000213_speaker_8.wav,"I mean, we're talking about the last 25% or so of the Donetsk oblast, and this area known as the fortified belt, or the fortress belt, a series of cities including Kramatorsk and Sloviansk, which have been essentially the front line for the last 11 years.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000214_speaker_8.wav,"For all sorts of militaries to teach strategic reasons, the Russians would dearly let, like to get behind that fortress line.",speaker_8,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000215_speaker_8.wav,"And for all sorts of military reasons, Ukraine wants to stop that happening because it would leave other parts of Ukraine to the north and the west vulnerable should Russia decide to attack again in the future.",speaker_8,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000216_speaker_8.wav,And so there will be a lot of attention given to that little chunk of territory.,speaker_8,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000217_speaker_1.wav,"And Paul, lastly, do you think all the recent developments take us any closer to that Putin-Zelenskyy face off?",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000218_speaker_8.wav,"I mean, in one sense, yes they do, because everyone is now talking about it, and the, the ground that needs to be prepared before it happens i- is now starting to be covered.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000219_speaker_8.wav,There is an awful lot of stuff that has to be sorted out.,speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000220_speaker_8.wav,"Um, territorial discussions, all the discussions about security guarantees, before a, a, a meeting of Vladimir Putin and, and Volodymyr Zelenskyy can really take place.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000221_speaker_8.wav,"That, that's the sort of event that you can imagine, uh, capping a process, rather than coming in the middle of a process.",speaker_8,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000222_speaker_1.wav,"Ten years ago this week, a refrigerated truck was found abandoned on a motorway in Austria.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000223_speaker_1.wav,"The doors were wired shut, the air was turned off, and there were no vents.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000224_speaker_1.wav,"Inside, police found the bodies of 59 men, eight women and four children.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000225_speaker_1.wav,"Our Central Europe Correspondent, Nick Thorpe, has been talking to relatives of some of the victims.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000226_speaker_9.wav,I've traveled to the town of Hanke in Iraqi Kurdistan to meet the family of some of those who died in the truck.,speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000227_speaker_9.wav,"Hazem Karli and his wife Gurje lost their daughter, Elin, aged 14, their son Alend, aged 16, and Hazem's younger brother Herish.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000228_speaker_2.wav,This was the last picture he took with the family.,speaker_2,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000229_speaker_2.wav,"It was on 5 August 2015, and the place is the border between Turkey and Iraq.",speaker_2,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000230_speaker_2.wav,So this was the last time he saw them.,speaker_2,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000231_speaker_9.wav,"Vratsa Prison in Bulgaria, a forbidding fortress of a building at the foot of the Balkan mountains.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000232_speaker_9.wav,"Metodi Georgiev, 39 years old, sits opposite me.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000233_speaker_9.wav,He was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole as one of the leaders of the smuggling gang who organized that truck.,speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000234_speaker_9.wav,How did you feel towards all those people you were moving?,speaker_9,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000235_speaker_10.wav,"The first time, you feel sorry for them, but after the fifth, you don't.",speaker_10,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000236_speaker_10.wav,These people are prepared to get into trucks without even asking.,speaker_10,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000237_speaker_10.wav,They're prepared to die on the road rather than go back to the countries they came from.,speaker_10,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000238_speaker_9.wav,"By August 2015, thousands of asylum seekers a day were crossing the Serbian border into Hungary.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000239_speaker_9.wav,"From there, gangs like this one drove them on to Germany.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000240_speaker_9.wav,The 71 migrants were squeezed into the back of that particular truck just before dawn.,speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000241_speaker_9.wav,"Soon after it set out, they started banging and shouting.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000242_speaker_9.wav,"The driver got worried and rang Metodi, and Metodi rang the boss, an Afghan called Samsor, to ask what to do.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000243_speaker_9.wav,"""Keep driving,"" he said.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000244_speaker_9.wav,"""And if they die, dump the bodies in the forest.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000245_speaker_9.wav,""" We know all this detail because the Hungarian police were tapping their phones.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000246_speaker_9.wav,"This evidence was so damning, the judge passed down the maximum sentences.",speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000247_speaker_9.wav,But Metodi still proclaims his innocence.,speaker_9,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000248_speaker_10.wav,"To this day, I don't feel guilty.",speaker_10,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000249_speaker_10.wav,"Everyone makes mistakes, right?",speaker_10,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000250_speaker_10.wav,To kill these people deliberately...,speaker_10,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000251_speaker_10.wav,I didn't kill anyone.,speaker_10,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000252_speaker_9.wav,"Back in Northern Iraq, we sat on cushions on the floor of Hazem's tidy home.",speaker_9,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000253_speaker_9.wav,Hazem feels justice has been done.,speaker_9,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000254_speaker_2.wav,"He's saying, ""Those one who did this thing, they are not humans.",speaker_2,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000255_speaker_2.wav,""" Because imagining like putting a lot of people in one truck and no air, it's just like a disaster.",speaker_2,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000256_speaker_2.wav,"He's saying all of that was because of money, to get more money.",speaker_2,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000257_speaker_2.wav,So let's leave it for God and the European governments to give them what they deserve.,speaker_2,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000258_speaker_1.wav,Hazem Karli finishing that dispatch.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000259_speaker_1.wav,"Still to come in this podcast, an art historian in France wants to stop the loan of the Bayeux Tapestry to the UK.",speaker_1,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000260_speaker_11.wav,"We compare often with La Joconde, Mona Lisa, with paintings by, uh, by grandmasters.",speaker_11,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000261_speaker_1.wav,"Weather forecasters have issued a red alert for Mumbai, as the Indian city experiences heavy downpours and flooding.",speaker_1,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000262_speaker_1.wav,"The authorities have urged residents to take care as further rainfall is expected, along with high tides.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000263_speaker_1.wav,"More than 20 centimeters of rain have fallen in the city in the past 24 hours, the highest volume in one day since 2020.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000264_speaker_1.wav,"Our South Asia Correspondent, Yogita Limaye, reports from Mumbai.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000265_speaker_12.wav,"Government offices were closed, and the private sector was told to allow its employees to work from home.",speaker_12,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000266_speaker_12.wav,A holiday was also declared for schools and colleges.,speaker_12,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000267_speaker_12.wav,"There was flooding in several parts of the city, with videos of half-submerged vehicles being shared on social media.",speaker_12,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000268_speaker_12.wav,"The Mithi River, which runs through the city, came dangerously close to breaching its banks, so hundreds of people living close to it were evacuated and are being sheltered in schools.",speaker_12,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000269_speaker_12.wav,But rail services have now started to resume.,speaker_12,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000270_speaker_12.wav,"While the airport didn't close, dozens of flights have been delayed.",speaker_12,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000271_speaker_12.wav,"Heavy rainfall is normal for Mumbai during the monsoon season, but authorities say the intensity of the downpour over the past two days has been unprecedented.",speaker_12,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000272_speaker_12.wav,"The weather department says there could be more rainfall overnight, and people have been asked to stay indoors.",speaker_12,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000273_speaker_1.wav,Yogita Limaye.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000274_speaker_1.wav,The charity Save the Children estimates that around two-thirds of child marriages happens in regions with higher-than-average climate risk.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000275_speaker_1.wav,"The reason, vulnerable populations in these countries are at risk of being pushed further into poverty by extreme weather events.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000276_speaker_1.wav,"In Malawi's lakeside district of Mangochi, a region increasingly wracked by drought, some families dependent on fishing and farming say there is no other option.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000277_speaker_1.wav,The BBC's Anne Okumu reports.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000278_speaker_13.wav,16-year-old Hawa stands barefoot by the water.,speaker_13,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000279_speaker_13.wav,Hawa was just 16 when she got married earlier this year.,speaker_13,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000280_speaker_13.wav,The legal age to marry in Malawi is 18.,speaker_13,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000281_speaker_13.wav,More frequent droughts have badly affected her family's income from fishing and farming.,speaker_13,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000282_speaker_13.wav,"And with very little money for basics or education, Hawa says she believed marriage was her only option.",speaker_13,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000283_speaker_14.wav,Some days my father would come back home with nothing from the lake.,speaker_14,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000284_speaker_14.wav,It's very tough.,speaker_14,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000285_speaker_13.wav,But she was underage.,speaker_13,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000286_speaker_13.wav,Did you try to stop her?,speaker_13,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000287_speaker_15.wav,I would have loved her to continue with her education.,speaker_15,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000288_speaker_13.wav,"According to the charity Save the Children, 40 million girls will be living in hotspot countries by 2015, who will be at a greater risk of extreme climate events and child marriage, defined as any marriage involving someone under 18.",speaker_13,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000289_speaker_13.wav,Malawi is among the top five countries most affected.,speaker_13,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000290_speaker_13.wav,"The current law defining marriage came in 2017, with a minimum age of 18.",speaker_13,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000291_speaker_13.wav,"The age of sexual consent remains at 16, but marriage below the minimum age is not criminalized.",speaker_13,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000292_speaker_13.wav,Arrests are only made when the girls involved are under 16 and a sexual offense has been committed.,speaker_13,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000293_speaker_13.wav,"McBain works with the locals and the Malawian government to help prevent or overturn child marriages, and to reintegrate underage brides back into the education system.",speaker_13,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000294_speaker_16.wav,"The law that we have, starting with the Child Justice Act, they amended the, uh, constitution.",speaker_16,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000295_speaker_16.wav,"All those speak to protecting the girl child, but then the traditional law, uh, or customary law, does not take that into consideration.",speaker_16,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000296_speaker_13.wav,"So far, he says they have removed hundreds of girls from such marriages since 2023, collaborating with legal officers, traditional chiefs, and the police.",speaker_13,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000297_speaker_16.wav,"After withdrawing them from child marriages, there is no support.",speaker_16,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000298_speaker_13.wav,"Although Hawa says she's happy in her marriage and it's clear she was not pressured to marry, beneath the weight of her sacrifice, she still carries the drive of who she hopes to become.",speaker_13,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000299_speaker_14.wav,"If we had everything at home, I would have loved to continue with my education, become a teacher, and better my life.",speaker_14,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000300_speaker_1.wav,Anne Okumu.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000301_speaker_1.wav,India says it has conveyed its concerns to China about a mega-dam being built on a river that runs through Tibet and India.,speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000302_speaker_1.wav,"Delhi said the dam, along the Yarlung Tsangpo, known as the Brahmaputra in India, would have implications for states lying downstream.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000303_speaker_1.wav,"Our South Asia regional editor, Anbarasan Netharajan, has more details.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000304_speaker_17.wav,China has started constructing what will be the world's largest hydropower dam in Tibet that could have a serious impact on millions of people downstream in India and Bangladesh.,speaker_17,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000305_speaker_17.wav,"India's concerns were raised during a meeting with the visiting Chinese foreign minister, Wang Yi, in Delhi.",speaker_17,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000306_speaker_17.wav,"China hasn't commented on those discussions, but earlier, Mr.",speaker_17,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000307_speaker_1.wav,Anbarasan Netharajan.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000308_speaker_1.wav,"Now, if you believe the publicity, this year's U.S.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000309_speaker_1.wav,The biggest tennis stars are teaming up to win $1 million to compete against each other in the first week of the championship in New York.,speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000310_speaker_1.wav,And the format now consists of much shorter matches.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000311_speaker_1.wav,But not everyone is happy about it.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000312_speaker_1.wav,"Some specialist mixed double players have been brushed aside, no longer invited to take part because they're not seen as big enough draws.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000313_speaker_1.wav,"Instead, the blockbuster lineup includes pairings such as multiple Grand Slam winner, Carlos Alcaraz, who is paired with the former U.S.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000314_speaker_1.wav,This is what they said before the tournament started.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000315_speaker_1.wav,I would like to know how much of the court he can cover in New York.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000316_speaker_18.wav,That's it.,speaker_18,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000317_speaker_1.wav,"Well, the two young big hitters actually lost their match to number one seeds Jack Draper and Jessica Pegula, who headed straight to the quarterfinals.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000318_speaker_1.wav,"BBC Sport described that game as entertaining, the crowd on the edge of their seats.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000319_speaker_1.wav,"Our sports reporter at Flushing Meadows in New York is Jonathan Jericho, and he spoke to the BBC's Nick Hatton about the new format.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000320_speaker_19.wav,"It's certainly polarized opinion, that's for sure.",speaker_19,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000321_speaker_19.wav,"Open were gonna reimagine the mixed doubles, and, uh, then in June, sort of the excitement was went up another notch when the superstars were announced who were gonna play, namely Carlos Alcaraz and Emma Raducanu and lots of other star names too, including Novak Djokovic, Iga Swiatek, Jannik Sinner, who's actually now pulled out.",speaker_19,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000322_speaker_19.wav,"And it's been the talking point of the tennis world for the fast- past few months, for sure.",speaker_19,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000323_speaker_20.wav,"Yeah, it's a bold move, isn't it, by the United States Tennis Association?",speaker_20,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000324_speaker_19.wav,"And the rationale was to elevate the event and create greater focus on the sport, and that means bringing it forward before the tournament, separating it from the singles and the other doubles draws.",speaker_19,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000325_speaker_19.wav,So their argument is that they're putting more eyeballs on tennis and- and the stars.,speaker_19,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000326_speaker_19.wav,"Now, the cynics will say, ""Is that true, or are they doing it just for- for money?""...",speaker_19,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000327_speaker_19.wav,"I'm stood outside, uh, the media center here at Flushing Meadows, and there's, there's, there's hundreds, thousands of people milling around who are obviously here spending money, not necessarily on the gate admission, but, but in the shop, on food, on beverages, et cetera.",speaker_19,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000328_speaker_19.wav,"It does seem like it's sold out for tomorrow night, which is when the semifinals and the final will be held.",speaker_19,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000329_speaker_19.wav,"A lot of doubles players are, are pretty angry about it, and they see it as a lost opportunity to compete in a Grand Slam and, and win a Grand Slam title, and they say it devalues the Slam as well.",speaker_19,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000330_speaker_19.wav,"Jamie Murray, who's obviously one of the most famous British doubles players, he, he kind of told me that he thinks that it, it's a glorified exhibition, and that it's taking opportunities away from doubles players.",speaker_19,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000331_speaker_19.wav,"It's a big, big chance to, uh, take it away from those players.",speaker_19,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000332_speaker_1.wav,Jonathan Jericho speaking to Nick Hatton.,speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000333_speaker_1.wav,"And finally, non to the loan of the Bayeux Tapestry.",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000334_speaker_1.wav,The campaign was launched in July after this announcement in London by the French President Emmanuel Macron.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000335_speaker_21.wav,"In the run-up to the 1,000th anniversary of the birth of William the Conqueror...",speaker_21,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000336_speaker_21.wav,[laughs] France will loan the United Kingdom the Bayeux Tapestry.,speaker_21,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000337_speaker_1.wav,"The loan, part of a proposed art exchange, would mark the first time the medieval tapestry would be displayed in the United Kingdom.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000338_speaker_1.wav,Art historian and journalist Didier Rieckner created the petition.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000339_speaker_11.wav,"It's called a tapestry, but it's not quite a tapestry.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000340_speaker_11.wav,"It's 70 meters long, and it's on a linen canvas.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000341_speaker_11.wav,"And, uh, it is very fragile.",speaker_11,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000342_speaker_11.wav,"There are many holes, many, uh, tears, and, uh, it is why it's so impossible, so delicate, so, so dangerous to make it come to, to England.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000343_speaker_11.wav,"It is a unique object, you know?",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000344_speaker_11.wav,"It is the only embroidery of this size as old as this one, you know?",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000345_speaker_11.wav,"So, it is a heritage of humanity, and we cannot play with this.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000346_speaker_1.wav,"So if they were to transport it to the British Museum, how would they do that, and what is the danger?",speaker_1,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000347_speaker_11.wav,"I am worried about what, uh, the restorers told me and the curators who have worked on this, uh, work of art, and they tell me, everybody tells me the same thing, ""It's very fragile.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000348_speaker_11.wav,""" And they want to put it in a box and to make it, uh, travel by road, not by train, not by plane, but by road.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000349_speaker_11.wav,Any move is very delicate and very dangerous for the embroidery.,speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000350_speaker_11.wav,"Every restorer and curators who have worked on this piece of art tells there will be, uh, tearing.",speaker_11,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000351_speaker_11.wav,"The wool, which is on the linen could fall.",speaker_11,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000352_speaker_11.wav,"Some of these, uh, accidents will be irreversible.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000353_speaker_1.wav,"In your petition, you described this loan as a, a true heritage crime.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000354_speaker_11.wav,And there is no other work of art of this kind.,speaker_11,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000355_speaker_11.wav,"We compare often with La Joconde, Mona Lisa, with paintings by grand masters.",speaker_11,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000356_speaker_11.wav,There is only one Tapisserie de Bayeux.,speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000357_speaker_1.wav,"Lots of people have really criticized the idea of this and that, the Bayeux Tapestry, it's, it's not worth endangering such a unique piece of art.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000358_speaker_1.wav,"Why do you think the British Museum is willing to, to give it a go?",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000359_speaker_11.wav,"I am very disappointed by the British Museum, because it is a museum and they know very well it's not possible to do this without a risk.",speaker_11,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000360_speaker_1.wav,"Uh- Well, they have said that their collections department can handle this and does this sort of thing all the time.",speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000361_speaker_11.wav,"Yes, [laughs] but not all the time with such a, a work of art.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000362_speaker_11.wav,"And it's not, uh, uh, believing, it's, I don't believe it's, it's dangerous.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000363_speaker_11.wav,"I know it's dangerous because I've spoken with many restorers who worked on the, on the tapestry, and they all tell me it's very dangerous for the tapestry.",speaker_11,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000364_speaker_11.wav,"I think symbolically, it would be a great thing to l- lend it to England, but it's not possible.",speaker_11,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000365_speaker_11.wav,"We should be united, English and French, to tell it's not possible.",speaker_11,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000366_speaker_1.wav,Didier Rieckner.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000367_speaker_1.wav,"[instrumental music plays] And that's all from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News Podcast later.",speaker_1,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000368_speaker_1.wav,You can also find us on X @BBCWorldService.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000369_speaker_1.wav,The editor is Karen Martin.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000370_speaker_1.wav,I'm Julia Macfarlane.,speaker_1,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000371_speaker_22.wav,We're very excited to bring you the first episode for 2021.,speaker_22,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000372_speaker_22.wav,"You will notice towards the end of the podcast some variations in sound, and we do apologize for this in advance.",speaker_22,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000373_speaker_22.wav,We hope that you enjoy the episode.,speaker_22,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000374_speaker_23.wav,"This is going to be a pivotal year for climate and the world, as more countries look to ramp up their efforts to reach net zero by 2050, uh, leading up to the COP26, uh, summit this year.",speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000375_speaker_23.wav,One of the areas where more work needs to be done in order to achieve net zero ambitions is improving gender diversity in the energy sector.,speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000376_speaker_23.wav,Gender diversity in the energy sector is vital.,speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000377_speaker_23.wav,It's dri- vital for driving more innovation and more inclusive solutions for clean energy transitions all over the world.,speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000378_speaker_23.wav,"To discuss this important topic, we're joined by two great guests today, uh, Mechtild Wörsdörfer, who's the IE Director for Sustainability, Technology, and Outlooks.",speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000379_speaker_23.wav,"And Lucila Arboleda, who's an energy economics and financial I- analyst, uh, here at the IE.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000380_speaker_23.wav,"So, this week we also marked International Women's Day, and we thought this would be a good opportunity to relaunch our podcast, uh, for the year, uh, with this topic.",speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000381_speaker_23.wav,"Um, we're going to start by reflecting a little bit about the place of women in the energy sector, which is widely seen as one of the least gender diverse parts of the economy.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000382_speaker_23.wav,"Um, can you both give us a sense of, of the reasons behind it, but maybe, Mechtild, just give a sense of how non-diverse is the energy sector.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000383_speaker_24.wav,"Thanks, Chad, and thanks for the opportunity.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000384_speaker_24.wav,It's a bit better for the renewable sector.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000385_speaker_24.wav,"They are 32, but it's still relatively low.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000386_speaker_23.wav,"So in energy, one in five people only are women.",speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000387_speaker_23.wav,"In renewables, it's about a third, and these are pretty shocking and pretty low numbers, uh, right, Lucila?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000388_speaker_25.wav,"Yeah, that's true, and, and it's also true that when you look at, um, even how women are, uh, distributed within sort of senior managerial positions, you also see what you see in the, uh, economy as a whole, but, uh, that, that it also happens in the energy sector, which is, um, fewer and fewer women, um, get to the top.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000389_speaker_23.wav,"So we're gonna get into the reasons why, but before we do that, um, we started framing this discussion as gender imbalance in the en- energy sector, especially as we're moving into a clean energy transition, could slow down the transition, could lead to less innovative solutions.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000390_speaker_24.wav,I think there is enough evidence that women and diversity more generally brings a lot of innovation.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000391_speaker_24.wav,"Companies, we saw it with major energy companies, but also in other fields, who have a diverse employment, uh, policy, and even more women at the top, are doing better.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000392_speaker_24.wav,"And I think in the clean energy, uh, transition, as renewables is slightly doing better than the traditional oil and gas company, we need to use that and employ and go for more gender and innovation while we are going through the transition.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000393_speaker_25.wav,"Yes, uh, there's a few, um, re- research, uh, documents and papers that show that actually reducing, uh, the gender gap, uh, and increasing diversification can increase, um, GDP and actually, um, strengthen, uh, economic projections.",speaker_25,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000394_speaker_25.wav,"And that is seen at a global level, at c- at a country level, but yet somehow I think that we are, um, not...",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000395_speaker_25.wav,"Countries and, and policymakers, we're all known, um, used to thinking it in, in terms of, uh, failures, market failures.",speaker_25,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000396_speaker_25.wav,But there are ways to solve it.,speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000397_speaker_25.wav,But yet I think we don't...,speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000398_speaker_25.wav,"As much as we, and, and this is true of the energy sector, we think about market failures and we, we've taken, um, decisions or policies to change those.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000399_speaker_25.wav,"And yet we, we're not good at dealing and sort of applying this rationale, I think, in the gender diversity, uh, or, or the gender sector.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000400_speaker_23.wav,"So this is true in the energy field, right?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000401_speaker_23.wav,"This is a, a, a sector that's still...",speaker_23,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000402_speaker_23.wav,Do we recognize the problem in the energy sector when you look around to kind of...,speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000403_speaker_23.wav,"When you look at these numbers and you look around at the energy companies, whether they're traditional fossil fuel or renewables, and we're gonna see a lot more growth in the renewable sector, is that a problem that's being understood?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000404_speaker_23.wav,"Or how far are we along this sort of understanding and solving problem sort of, you know, timeline?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000405_speaker_24.wav,"I think in the under- on the understanding side, we are getting there.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000406_speaker_24.wav,"There is much more sensitivity among companies, among governments, among organizations to do something about it.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000407_speaker_24.wav,"When it comes to solutions, I'm not sure yet.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000408_speaker_24.wav,"I think what really works, and what Lucila just said, what works in the energy sector, if you have a renewables target-...",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000409_speaker_24.wav,We are not yet there.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000410_speaker_24.wav,"Some companies, uh, have targets for women, objectives clear, 20%, 30%, 50% by 2030.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000411_speaker_24.wav,But you need to monitor it.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000412_speaker_24.wav,"There are some good examples, but I think there are not enough.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000413_speaker_24.wav,"So we should really work and, uh, make best practices.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000414_speaker_24.wav,"I think that's a bit our role, but we are not yet there.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000415_speaker_24.wav,And the solutions are probably broader than the energy sector.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000416_speaker_24.wav,"I think we need to look at obviously the role of women, the role of women in the COVID, the role of women at home, the invisible work they do.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000417_speaker_24.wav,"So the problem is stronger or more in the energy sector because, as we said in the beginning, we are less in the energy sector in employment and at the top, but it's a broader issue.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000418_speaker_23.wav,"So give us a sense maybe of, you know, where it starts.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000419_speaker_23.wav,"Do we have an issue, for instance, in recruiting enough, uh, you know, women into these maybe more scientific disciplines or economic disciplines?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000420_speaker_23.wav,"Is, is there enough, maybe on the education side, enough of a push for, you know, girls, young girls to get into these disciplines?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000421_speaker_23.wav,Is recruitment an issue?,speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000422_speaker_25.wav,"And, and definitely at the, in terms of the pool of students in S- STEM, um, subjects, which are, um, science, technology, um, amusing the- Engineering and math ...",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000423_speaker_25.wav,"And there are differences within disciplines and countries, of course.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000424_speaker_25.wav,"And only like the minority of female students in higher education choose, for example, information and communication technology.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000425_speaker_25.wav,"so we do see, and this is a lot because, um, you know, there are issues around norms and stereotypes about, you know, you can't be an engineer if you're a woman.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000426_speaker_25.wav,"Um, so there is still a lot of that, although that is changing.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000427_speaker_25.wav,"So, so there is progress in, in terms of like the pool of students, but then we need to get those students to, um, first more women in STEM, but then they need to get a job.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000428_speaker_25.wav,"And even when they get a job, uh, I think, again, there is some progress in terms of getting women to work, but then those women also need to get a job that is a technical job or a, a job that is related to managerial positions, because we still see a lot more women in admin jobs or non-technical jobs.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000429_speaker_23.wav,"Um, so the, the figure you mentioned, 35% of STEM students are women, that's already a very low number.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000430_speaker_23.wav,"Isn't that one of the root causes maybe then that would translate into why we see 22 or tw- 32% in energy or, or, uh, renewables?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000431_speaker_23.wav,"Or is that just only the an- part of the answer, Mechtild?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000432_speaker_24.wav,"I definitely think it's only part of the answer because other sec- sectors like machinery, car industry, IT, technology, they are not doing fantastically well, but they are doing slightly better than energy.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000433_speaker_23.wav,So- Energy is the worst here?,speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000434_speaker_24.wav,"I think oil and gas companies are less attractive as employer right now than they were 10, 15, 20 years ago.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000435_speaker_24.wav,That's true for men and women.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000436_speaker_24.wav,"And secondly, I think one thing is the recruitment, and we need not only engineers also in energy.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000437_speaker_24.wav,"And also there, there's a lack of women.",speaker_24,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000438_speaker_24.wav,"And once women start in a company or in a government or in an international organization, the other two issues are the retaining.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000439_speaker_24.wav,Not many women stay.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000440_speaker_24.wav,That's also a factor which is more in the energy sector than in the other sector.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000441_speaker_24.wav,"And third, they are not doing the carry until the top.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000442_speaker_24.wav,"We have among the top CEOs, I think none or very few women.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000443_speaker_24.wav,"And that triggers another issue, which we might want to discuss, is about role model and networking,- Yeah ...",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000444_speaker_24.wav,which exists much more for men than for women.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000445_speaker_23.wav,"So give us an example of, you know, what that looks like and, you know, how is that hampering progress for women, for instance, and what could be d- done about that?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000446_speaker_24.wav,"As I said, role models play a lot of role.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000447_speaker_24.wav,"If you have an engineer or somebody in, in the family, a mother who is getting into a leadership position, I think that's good for sons and daughters.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000448_speaker_24.wav,I think they see that it's possible- Yeah ...,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000449_speaker_24.wav,"within a family to do both, have a career and a private life.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000450_speaker_24.wav,"But if you only see men at the top,-And eventually, the woman chose to work half-time or to drop out.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000451_speaker_24.wav,It's a personal decision.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000452_speaker_24.wav,We saw Lagarde and von der Leyen.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000453_speaker_24.wav,"And we have much more, I think, to learn from others, even in middle management.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000454_speaker_23.wav,"So you mentioned, Lucila, some role models in your family.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000455_speaker_23.wav,So do you ha- what are your role models and how did you get to where you are today?,speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000456_speaker_23.wav,"Like, give us a bit of a sense of your kind of progress.",speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000457_speaker_25.wav,"Well, I have two, had two, uh, now I have one, but two great-grandmothers.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000458_speaker_25.wav,She was always very big on economic independence.,speaker_25,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000459_speaker_25.wav,"Uh, and the other one was actually more, you know, ""Great, your dreams are great, but you also need to work a lot and, and get up early and do your work.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000460_speaker_25.wav,"But, and, and, and definitely worked for me, um, uh, and I was very lucky.",speaker_25,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000461_speaker_25.wav,"But I don't think that is generally the average, um, you know, you may not have a grandmother and it may not be that way.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000462_speaker_25.wav,"Um, so I think that but w- we still need to work on, on, on sort of, you know, putting dreams to girls.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000463_speaker_23.wav,"Did you ever think in your life that, like, this would be an issue you would be confronted with or that you would have to sort of address as a challenge, you know, in your career, in specifically the energy sector?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000464_speaker_23.wav,"I mean, it's probably a question one could ask across sectors.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000465_speaker_23.wav,"But for you, maybe knowing or not knowing these statistics, but maybe having an, an awareness that this was mostly a male-dominated field, I guess, did you ever think that this would, you know, slow you down or would, you know, be an issue?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000466_speaker_23.wav,And how did your thinking evolve on this?,speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000467_speaker_25.wav,"So I, my, uh, the reason I started in energy was because I started working in a company of two chemical engineers who were women, who were outstanding, uh, very good in rooms of men.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000468_speaker_25.wav,"Um, but I, it was with time, and at the time, I, I, I actually thought it was interesting.",speaker_25,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000469_speaker_25.wav,"But then you start having these issues about people assuming, yes, that you are the secretary, or, like, um, even, you know, comments that are absolutely unnecessary.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000470_speaker_25.wav,And I think that the problem is that what sort of annoyed me more at most of the time and still does sometimes is about how it undermines you as a professional also.,speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000471_speaker_23.wav,"Is this something you're still confronted with or that you see maybe with your peers, or do you think things have changed a bit?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000472_speaker_24.wav,"I didn't, frankly, see a lot of changes.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000473_speaker_24.wav,"But speaking at panels, speaking, uh, getting in meetings.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000474_speaker_24.wav,"I would say I'm, I'm not anymore the only woman, but there are probably maximum one-third, whatever conference I am in or in a panel.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000475_speaker_24.wav,And there need to be really a specific effort.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000476_speaker_24.wav,"Because otherwise, I think it's, it's only possible personally with targets and objectives.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000477_speaker_24.wav,"We had a conference last, two years ago in Berlin, where they really made an effort, and they first invited to all the panels only women.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000478_speaker_24.wav,"And once they had 50% on for- of confirmation of women, they invited men.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000479_speaker_24.wav,"And I must say we were in a panel half-half, and overall in some panels, there were more men and some others women.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000480_speaker_24.wav,"But the whole atmosphere at, at the time- Yeah ...",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000481_speaker_24.wav,And I think we need to go there.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000482_speaker_24.wav,"We need to really make more efforts, and I think everyone, I, I got motivated by my mother who hasn't made a career.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000483_speaker_24.wav,"So I think we, we need a lot of encouragement and overall more targets and objectives.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000484_speaker_23.wav,"One is this sort of career language that you, one applies more to women than men.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000485_speaker_23.wav,"But before we get there, um, just in terms of the, the fixes and the actions that could be taken, you mentioned quotas or at least some numbers, and Lucila, you mentioned the same thing, that we, we are in an industry that likes to put numbers on everything, and objectives and targets and measure them and track them.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000486_speaker_23.wav,"Um, that's not happening yet for this particular sector that also impacts half of humanity, so I think that's an interesting point.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000487_speaker_23.wav,So is that the way forward?,speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000488_speaker_23.wav,"And, um, maybe can I also ask you to just reflect a little bit on the data collection side?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000489_speaker_23.wav,"So we can't really measure a problem, at least solve a problem before we can measure it, so how can we measure it first and how can we use that data to, uh, to move forward?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000490_speaker_24.wav,"So we are really n- need to look more on the data side with our statistics, and we have a great data center here, or surveys, to get it done.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000491_speaker_24.wav,"But there's also the willingness to collect data in a company or in, in other bodies, uh, which I think is not yet there, because, uh, we do surveys and so on, and there are different replies, different, uh, perceptions.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000492_speaker_24.wav,"So I think the data issue, uh, which is not always in the energy ministry, so it's, it's, it's one of the issues, but we need to improve it.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000493_speaker_24.wav,But it's not only about that.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000494_speaker_24.wav,"I mean, the European Commission and von der Leyen in h- in her, uh, uh, speech, she wants 50% of women at all levels.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000495_speaker_24.wav,"And then there are targets for '22, '23, '24, and there are monitoring process.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000496_speaker_24.wav,We heard from companies that they are doing it.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000497_speaker_24.wav,"But I think there, that's the only way. Yeah.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000498_speaker_25.wav,"And if I may add, maybe also resources because, m- you know, putting targets alone, um, it can be a beautiful dream that you, that you would like to happen.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000499_speaker_25.wav,"Um, but so putting resources in terms of money and, and people, you know, implementing those targets- Yeah ...",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000500_speaker_25.wav,"are also very important, um, and, you know, culture.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000501_speaker_23.wav,"Well, let's talk about that for a second, because it's not just a question of willingness to open the doors and to set targets.",speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000502_speaker_23.wav,What do you do once that's happened?,speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000503_speaker_23.wav,"Men and women have different sort of life cycles naturally, and, and so how do you manage having both the ability to have a career, but also to have children, to take time off, to not take time off?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000504_speaker_23.wav,"And I'm really struck by the current, the last year we've had in the pandemic, where really the impact of the pandemic have been disproportionately harder for women.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000505_speaker_23.wav,"So h- h- what are the processes that you have to put in place to remedy that, or to at least level the playing field, I guess would be another way of saying it?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000506_speaker_24.wav,I think COVID has certainly reinforced some of the things which already existed.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000507_speaker_24.wav,"So, uh, unfortunately with homeschooling, it happened to be that more women were at home to take over that in addition.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000508_speaker_24.wav,"So and frankly, this is also global problem.",speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000509_speaker_24.wav,I've been in a conference in Abu Dhabi.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000510_speaker_24.wav,"Even though you would think Africa, India, Europe, North America, some would do better than others, but in the energy sector, I think, and in the role of women and men, there are a lot of things happening all over the world which are similar patterns.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000511_speaker_24.wav,"But, uh, coming back to your question, I think there needs to be, as I said before, a social policy which, uh, is good for men and women.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000512_speaker_24.wav,"And then I think as a next step is a cultural change, a training possibilities for, for women and men, and a l- a more awareness training from the top to down.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000513_speaker_24.wav,So it's right to say it's not only the target.,speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000514_speaker_25.wav,"Yes, I think that, um, I mean, it's impossible to avoid gender differences, I think, without mentioning the, this point about care work, and there's a lot of, um, time in surveys, timed use surveys, I think that's name- Mm-hmm ...",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000515_speaker_25.wav,"that showing that women take on more, uh, of the domestic and care labor than men.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000516_speaker_25.wav,But also that they have less leisure time.,speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000517_speaker_25.wav,"And, y- you know, the day has 24 hours, so if you put more time on something, you get less of something else.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000518_speaker_25.wav,"And, and I think that, uh, we also need to, in this narrative, we also need to show m- men in particular that the, eh, they are also not spending as much time with their children.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000519_speaker_25.wav,"I've been talking a lot about this with the men in my family, and one of them suddenly became aware that, um...",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000520_speaker_25.wav,"He had s- eh, three boys.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000521_speaker_25.wav,"He didn't even take off the day h- his children were born, and I was like, ""What were you doing?",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000522_speaker_25.wav,"And, and you know, and this, an- and I think more and more, this is a discussion that men are having, that they also, you know, have the right, eh, to, apart from the obligation, and also the right to be with their children.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000523_speaker_25.wav,"I think that's also important, eh, for, for women to acknowledge and f- uh, for men to acknowledge, and for us women to, to include that point.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000524_speaker_25.wav,"Because, um, although some of them have also mentioned how terrible it is to be out of their house while, you know, not seeing their children when working, for example.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000525_speaker_25.wav,And I do remind them that that is only possible because their wife is there- Right.,speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000526_speaker_23.wav,"It's, it's family leave, it's, uh, parental leave, and applying this to men and women helps normalize it and make it easier for both genders to kind of make it part of the workplace.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000527_speaker_23.wav,"Um, and that's one of the more maybe deeper cultural issues that, um, has to be maybe addressed or confronted.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000528_speaker_23.wav,"Um, just maybe to kind of go back to where we started, um, which is about making net zero ambitions a reality, and part of that requiring a major transformation of the energy sector.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000529_speaker_23.wav,"And if we really want to achieve these very ambitious net zero targets by 2050, um, there is going to be trade-offs, and perhaps even costs.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000530_speaker_23.wav,"We are putting together a global commission on people-centered transitions, and really the idea here is to really consider all aspects of the transition.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000531_speaker_23.wav,Um...There are aspects of justice and fairness.,speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000532_speaker_23.wav,"There are also aspects of gender equality, and maybe you could address that a little bit, uh, Mechtild.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000533_speaker_24.wav,And our new global commission has a good starting point.,speaker_24,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000534_speaker_24.wav,It's not the only one.,speaker_24,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000535_speaker_24.wav,"It's a global commission, and it will address justice and inclusiveness in a broader sense.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000536_speaker_24.wav,"I think when it comes then to equality, in a way, energy is a lot about products, about consumer, and about selling, uh, uh, green products, uh, access to finance and all that.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000537_speaker_24.wav,"We shouldn't forget that in order to make good policies and even sales policies, half of the customers are women, so we need to understand, and companies, uh, ourselves, and, and this commission, that in order to be aware of how this product could be shaped or how the behavior of people are, we need to represent them also at all levels.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000538_speaker_24.wav,"So my point is, a global commission with half women, half men, and a global diversity, is a good example on how to re-address all these issues, and I hope that commission will come out with very clear co- commendations, which will be addressed at COP26, and further on, we will deepen, uh, that work, which we will start right now.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000539_speaker_23.wav,"So what do you expect actually from the COP process, if anything, on this specific issue?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000540_speaker_23.wav,And y- you were mentioning that this is not gonna be a one-year process.,speaker_23,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000541_speaker_23.wav,"This is a multi-year, um, endeavor, but are there milestones that you have your kind of eye on, that you could sort of see as, as markers?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000542_speaker_24.wav,"I think we, we will have the opportunity with the IEA Summit in 31st of March.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000543_speaker_24.wav,"And I saw the UK made a particular point that women should be part of the negotiation and, uh, part of the climate change debate, and we have some leading women there.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000544_speaker_24.wav,"Maybe not enough, and that was one of the critical points, but I think there will be more women.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000545_speaker_24.wav,"There are leading women, uh, in, in that space, and COP26 is really an important milestone to get this clean energy transition, this net zero across the world.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000546_speaker_23.wav,"Maybe I can ask each of you if you have a piece of advice that you would like to share, um, for men or women, but really to think about y- this topic and maybe confronting this topic if it's arisen, but what would be kind of your kind of guiding star here, if you had to give one piece of advice?",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000547_speaker_24.wav,"I think you need to be confident and you need to take the risks, and women tend to do...",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000548_speaker_24.wav,"Be a bit more careful, so I would everyone encourage to make that debate a common debate with men and women.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000549_speaker_24.wav,"We shouldn't only, uh, uh, limit it to, to, to, to the female, but I think there's an opportunity for all of us, if we embrace this gender equality.",speaker_24,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000550_speaker_25.wav,"Yes, I really like that point on risk.",speaker_25,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000551_speaker_25.wav,"I think, um, I think that's important, whether that is, like, taking all the opportunities you can, whether it's trying to get a little bit out of your comfort zone to, um, you know, p- push the boundaries or be less, uh, shy, wh- whatever, um, the exact, uh, practical implication.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000552_speaker_25.wav,"But I think another thing, and that's th- the way I s- sort of, um, do it myself, and I'm not saying it works for everyone, but I like to bring in men.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000553_speaker_25.wav,"I like to get into uncomfortable conversations, respectful conversations, to bring in the data, to explain, to say, ""Well, if you earned 80%, uh, less than me for doing exactly the same thing, wouldn't you get a little bit annoyed at least?",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000554_speaker_25.wav,""" So sort of. ..",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000555_speaker_25.wav,"[laughs] Uh, but I think it's important because today, men dominate the politics and economics, the households, so I don't think there's gonna be a change without them, and I don't think that they are necessarily sort of meaner or, you know, less...",speaker_25,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000556_speaker_25.wav,So I think that bringing in men and sort of just trying to have those conversations...,speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000557_speaker_25.wav,"And in a way, it's the same point about risk, is about y- you know, going into uncomfortable sometimes situations.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000558_speaker_25.wav,"And, and data here is great, so, uh, hopefully we'll, [laughs] we'll get to have more of that because I think it's, it's hard.",speaker_25,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000559_speaker_23.wav,"That's, that's great.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000560_speaker_23.wav,"Also, uh, this is a place where we can bring out more of data, and definitely, uh, with the podcast this year, we do plan to focus much, uh, w- we do plan to focus on the clean energy transition, on these targets, and certainly we'll keep, uh, talking and raising this issue.",speaker_23,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000561_speaker_26.wav,"[instrumental music] Welcome back to the IEA's podcast, Everything Energy.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000562_speaker_26.wav,"Today, it's on our phones, laptops, and in the tools we use to create images, film clips, even podcasts.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000563_speaker_26.wav,"AI has the potential to reshape economies and the future of work, but without electricity, there's no AI.",speaker_26,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000564_speaker_26.wav,Generating a single image with generative AI consumes roughly as much energy as charging a smartphone.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000565_speaker_26.wav,But policymakers and the markets have lacked the tools to fully understand the links between AI and energy and what they really mean.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000566_speaker_26.wav,"On the one hand, it showed the scale of the challenge.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000567_speaker_26.wav,It found by 2030 that electricity demand from data centers is projected to more than double to about 945 terawatt-hours.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000568_speaker_26.wav,That's about the same as the total electricity consumption of Japan today.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000569_speaker_26.wav,But it also found that AI offers real opportunities for the energy sector too.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000570_speaker_26.wav,"Here to discuss both the opportunities and the challenges are the report's two lead authors, IEA analysts Thomas Spencer and Siddharth Singh.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000571_speaker_26.wav,Thank you for joining me.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000572_speaker_26.wav,So let's start with why this report on the links between AI and energy is needed now.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000573_speaker_26.wav,"Uh, the second is about a Nobel Peace Prize for biomedicine.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000574_speaker_27.wav,"Yeah, so these are two breakthrough moments where artificial intelligence really rose up, uh, the agenda in terms of the public awareness of the, of the topic.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000575_speaker_27.wav,"So ChatGPT I think was the first commercial application of artificial intelligence that people in their day-to-day life started using, and with that came increasing concern about the growing energy footprint of artificial intelligence because all of a sudden people were using an application, ChatGPT, which is quite energy intensive.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000576_speaker_27.wav,"So, with the rise of ChatGPT as a commercial application for AI, people started growing concerned about the energy demand implications.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000577_speaker_27.wav,"On the other hand, with the Nobel Prize last year, which was awarded to three AI scientists for breakthroughs that they made in modeling the 3D structure of proteins.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000578_speaker_27.wav,"It sounds complicated, but really this is critical to drug discovery because the 3D structure of proteins determines how they interact with molecules in the body and also with drugs, uh, that, uh, that we introduce into the body.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000579_speaker_27.wav,"So, with this Nobel Prize, again, in the public awareness it really became clear that AI could st- solve some big problems, and so people started to ask also in the energy sector what problems could AI solve.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000580_speaker_27.wav,"And so with these two moments, you had the realization that AI might have significant implications for energy demand, but on the other hand could also solve a whole range of problems in the energy sector.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000581_speaker_27.wav,And so these two breakthrough moments for AI also had a lot of imp- implications for how we think about the use of AI in the energy sector.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000582_speaker_28.wav,"So when, uh, Deep Seek R1, which is a reasoning model, uh, by this group, uh, based in China, was launched in January 2025, it took a few days for the markets to understand what had really happened.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000583_speaker_28.wav,"What this model basically did was that it was able to, uh, synthesize vast amounts of data in innovative ways that took far less electricity, far less energy to actually do those calculations.",speaker_28,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000584_speaker_28.wav,"The markets responded by basically selling stocks of- of chip manufacturers, of energy companies.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000585_speaker_28.wav,"So firstly, we- we found that in experimental conditions, uh, the large language models, the reasoning models, uh, consume 10 to 20 times more electricity than simple queries using small language models.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000586_speaker_28.wav,"And the second is that these, uh, many of these innovations were, uh, in the training of the model itself, but we find that, uh, the training of all large language models, uh, over the past several years have consumed as much as about two terawatt-hours of, uh, electricity, uh, compared to 400 for electricity that's consumed every single year, at least, uh, that was the number for 2024, by all data centers for all types of calculations,",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000587_speaker_26.wav,"Now, we've mentioned data centers a lot here, so perhaps this is a good moment just to step back and remind ourselves what data centers are.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000588_speaker_26.wav,"Because, for example, they're not just used for AI.",speaker_26,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000589_speaker_26.wav,"So maybe, Thomas, you could tell us what's a good way of understanding what we're talking about?",speaker_26,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000590_speaker_27.wav,"I think, um, Dan, in- in simple terms you can think of a data center as the backbone of the internet, right?",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000591_speaker_27.wav,"So data centers are big buildings where we have lots of computers, essentially.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000592_speaker_27.wav,"Unlike the computers that we have in our homes or offices, they don't have screens because we don't need to interact with them directly.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000593_speaker_27.wav,But they do similar things to the computers in our homes and offices.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000594_speaker_27.wav,They store and process data.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000595_speaker_27.wav,"So, for example, when you go online and watch a video from Netflix, for example, that video is obviously not stored directly on your TV or on your laptop.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000596_speaker_27.wav,"It's stored in a data center, probably one that's quite close to where you are located.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000597_speaker_27.wav,"And essentially, your TV or computer is sending a signal to that data center saying, ""I want to watch this particular video, uh, this particular TV show.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000598_speaker_27.wav,"Send me the data so that I can stream it on my TV or, or laptop.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000599_speaker_27.wav,""" Uh, and they're critical for artificial intelligence, essentially because artificial intelligence models like ChatGPT are too big to run on your laptop.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000600_speaker_27.wav,"They need to be run on specialized hardware, which is located in data centers, and that's why looking at the electricity demand from data centers is critical when we think about the footprint of artificial intelligence.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000601_speaker_27.wav,"Because basically, all of the calculations related to artificial intelligence take place in data centers, and therefore all of the electricity consumption that is linked to artificial intelligence takes place in data centers as well.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000602_speaker_26.wav,How do you go about working out how much energy data centers use?,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000603_speaker_26.wav,"Because that's what this re- report was about, and that's what people perhaps haven't known much about before.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000604_speaker_27.wav,"Yeah, it's, it's a great question.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000605_speaker_27.wav,"It's almost like piecing together different pieces of information, um, and trying to build up a picture of the, of the whole.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000606_speaker_27.wav,"The reason it's like that is that as of today, we don't have any comprehensive global statistics on the electricity consumption of data centers in the same way that we have comprehensive statistics, for example, on the energy consumption of the iron and steel sector, uh, or the transportation sector.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000607_speaker_27.wav,"Governments don't collect comprehensive statistics yet, uh, on the electricity consumption of data centers.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000608_speaker_27.wav,"And while most big tech companies do report on their total electricity consumption, they don't necessarily break out the share of that that comes from data centers versus their warehouses, in the case of Amazon, or their office buildings.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000609_speaker_27.wav,What we did is compare a whole range of sources.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000610_speaker_27.wav,"First of all, we gathered data on all of the existing data centers around the world.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000611_speaker_27.wav,"There's about 11,000 of them, uh, as of today.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000612_speaker_27.wav,"Secondly, we gathered data and analysis, and we talked a lot to the tech industry about how these data centers are run.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000613_speaker_27.wav,"And so once you have an understanding of the number and how they are run, you can make an estimate of their electricity consumption.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000614_speaker_27.wav,Then we compared it with what national statistics do exist.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000615_speaker_27.wav,"For example, in Ireland, they collect very good statistics on data centers and their electricity consumption, and Ireland is a very big market, actually, for data centers in Europe.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000616_speaker_27.wav,"And finally, another source for us was to compare with company reports.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000617_speaker_27.wav,So we gathered the electricity consumption as reported by the major tech companies globally.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000618_speaker_27.wav,"And so really in a kind of detective approach, piecing together all of these different sources, we came up with our really first-of-a-kind comprehensive estimates at the global level, but also for major countries and regions of the electricity consumption of this really important sector.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000619_speaker_26.wav,"The big data centers currently in operation use as much energy as 100,000 households, but the report says that the largest data center announced could use as much energy as five million households, which is the same as a big city popping up every 18 months.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000620_speaker_28.wav,"So the analysis that we conducted also included an element of, uh, looking at, uh, where data centers exist, uh, uh, through satellite imagery, uh, to understand, uh, what the relationship may be to energy systems and, and our, uh, urban life.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000621_speaker_28.wav,"So we found a few very interesting f- uh, facets and characteristics of these data centers, right?",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000622_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, firstly, they tend to be very spatially concentrated.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000623_speaker_28.wav,"So unlike other forms of, uh, energy-consuming infrastructure, say for example, uh, iron and steel, uh, mills, or, uh, aluminum smelters, uh, or factories, uh, data centers tend to, uh, accumulate around each other.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000624_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, the second thing is that, uh, these data centers tend to be closer to urban areas compared to these other forms of infrastructure.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000625_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, so, uh, they, they tend to come up where there's already a big center of energy demand.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000626_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, and thirdly, that these data centers are growing larger and larger in size.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000627_speaker_28.wav,"The largest in construction is as much as, uh, three million households, and the largest that's being planned is, uh, five million households.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000628_speaker_28.wav,"So compared to e- energy infrastructure, which could take as much as five to 10 years depending on the types of infrastructure that needs to be built, the data center itself could come up as quickly as 18 months, uh, a- as you rightly mentioned.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000629_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, regulators also ensure that, uh, better decisions are made as far as the geographical siting of these data centers are concerned, so they really come up in places where the energy systems are able to handle the increased load.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000630_speaker_26.wav,"Because if it takes 18 months to build one of these enormous data centers, uh, what concerns are there that the grid won't be able to, to keep up, so you may have far more data centers, but you can't actually supply the energy it needs?",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000631_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, so it, it really puts the, the buildout of the AI infrastructure, uh, you know, in, in some form of a risky situation.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000632_speaker_26.wav,"Now, there are some very big figures mentioned in this report, so let's just remind ourselves what share of global electricity demand-...",speaker_26,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000633_speaker_27.wav,"5% of, uh, global electricity consumption.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000634_speaker_27.wav,"Uh, in absolute terms, that's about 415 terawatt-hours of electricity consumption.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000635_speaker_27.wav,You can roughly compare that with the electricity consumption of a country like France today.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000636_speaker_27.wav,"Um, going forward, our, uh, projection is that by 2030, the electricity consumption of data centers will more than double, so reaching about 945, uh, terawatt-hours of annual electricity consumption.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000637_speaker_27.wav,"Uh, to put that in perspective, that's roughly equivalent to the annual electricity consumption of Japan.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000638_speaker_27.wav,"Um, so that doubling is a big challenge for the energy system to meet, as, as, uh, Sid rightly highlighted.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000639_speaker_27.wav,"But again, we need to put it in perspective.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000640_speaker_27.wav,"Even with that doubling, our projection is that data centers will still account for around 3% of global electricity consumption.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000641_speaker_27.wav,"And of course, uh, we need to also remember that there are other drivers of, uh, electricity consumption growth, uh, around the world.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000642_speaker_27.wav,"So particularly, uh, in lower-income countries, uh, it's economic growth and industrialization, but also growing demand for cooling, uh, because of climate change, but also because of rising incomes.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000643_speaker_27.wav,"And then one of our objectives of, uh, decarbonization is to electrify the energy system to, uh, reduce emissions.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000644_speaker_27.wav,"And so growing, uh, demand for electric vehicles, for example, or the electrification of heating, is also driving up electricity, uh, demand.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000645_speaker_27.wav,"So at the global level, we actually find that data centers account for slightly less than 10% of the electricity demand growth.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000646_speaker_27.wav,"So yes, doubling is a big challenge for the energy system.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000647_speaker_27.wav,"Yes, it's happening very quickly.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000648_speaker_27.wav,"But again, we need to put it in perspective of this huge size of the, of the global energy system.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000649_speaker_26.wav,Let's talk about where we're gonna find these data centers.,speaker_26,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000650_speaker_26.wav,And almost half of electricity demand growth in the US by 2030 is predicted to come from data centers.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000651_speaker_26.wav,But there's also a huge amount of regional variation expected.,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000652_speaker_28.wav,"So we f- we find that data centers tend to be clustered in a few key, uh, parts of the world.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000653_speaker_28.wav,"I- in Europe, it is, uh, the cities of Frankfurt, Paris, Amsterdam, and of course, London.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000654_speaker_26.wav,And you just mentioned that example...,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000655_speaker_26.wav,Can you tell us about how much those data centers there are going to be using?,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000656_speaker_28.wav,It's 25% in the case of Northern Virginia.,speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000657_speaker_28.wav,"It's high as 20% in the case of, uh, Ireland.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000658_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, so really, in, in different parts of the world, uh, data centers, uh, account for a larger and disproportionate share of the total, uh, electricity demanded in those regions.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000659_speaker_28.wav,"We find that th- the growth that, that is emerging now from, uh, the United States, from other parts of the world, uh, really highlight the importance of integrating data centers into the larger energy system.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000660_speaker_28.wav,"So for example, [clears throat] in the United States, in 2030 already, the amount of electricity consumed to, to process data, uh, will be more through data centers than the total electricity demanded from the iron and steel sector, from chemicals, uh, from aluminum, and all of that combined.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000661_speaker_28.wav,"But it really comes down to where these, uh, different economies are in their respective energy trajectories.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000662_speaker_28.wav,"China is the world's second-largest market of data centers, and yet, uh, it, it plays a much smaller role in the growth, uh, in, in China because China is also seeing very high levels of electrification, uh, with the demand coming out of rising electric vehicles.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000663_speaker_28.wav,"So that re- it really highlights how the other parts of the system, including air conditioning, including heat pumps, including electricity demand from, uh, industries that are also driving, uh, consumption there.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000664_speaker_26.wav,"You just mentioned China, and I think that's a really good way for us to move on to talk about supply chains.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000665_speaker_26.wav,"People possibly think about supply chains for batteries, but not necessarily for AI.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000666_speaker_26.wav,"And AI needs all kinds of rare earths and minerals, and a huge percentage of them are refined in China.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000667_speaker_26.wav,So can you give us a bit more context about the complexity of AI supply chains?,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000668_speaker_27.wav,"I think, you know, when, when people ask a question to, to ChatGPT, they typically don't have in mind the fact that behind this apparently disembodied technology is a huge supply chain that cruts- cuts across many, many sectors and is very international.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000669_speaker_27.wav,"So for example, to connect a data center to an electricity grid, you need transformers.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000670_speaker_27.wav,"Uh, transformers today are a large global market.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000671_speaker_27.wav,"We have seen that, you know, waiting times for transformers have increased recently, uh, because of the growing demand for investment in our electricity grids and so on.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000672_speaker_27.wav,"So transformers are a critical part of the value chain for data centers, and therefore for artificial intelligence.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000673_speaker_27.wav,"If we look at the components that go into, uh, data centers, they need a whole range of critical minerals, uh, and, and metals.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000674_speaker_27.wav,"So for example, the wiring in a data center, uh, to transport electricity all around the different, uh, servers in the data center, that's copper.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000675_speaker_27.wav,"Uh, copper demand is growing very strongly as we invest more in electric vehicles, as we build out our electricity grids, for example.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000676_speaker_27.wav,"And by the way, because data centers require a very, very high level of redundancy, so they can't ever go offline because of an acci- accident, they duplicate all of the network, copper network in data centers.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000677_speaker_27.wav,"So they're quite, uh, copper-intensive as, uh, as well.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000678_speaker_27.wav,"If we take, uh, rare earth metals like, ums,...",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000679_speaker_27.wav,"Gallium is increasingly being used in the next generation of computing chips because it, uh, helps them be much more power efficient than, uh, the current generation, and 99% of refined gallium supply is in China today.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000680_speaker_27.wav,We estimated that the growth in gallium demand from data centers between now and 2030 could account for 10% of the total gallium production today annually.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000681_speaker_27.wav,"So that's a very significant increase in this, uh, this, uh, metal.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000682_speaker_27.wav,"So one of the critical, uh, messages from our report was that we need to take a careful look at what you can call, in simple terms, the artificial intelligence supply chain, um, and how the growing links between data centers and the energy system may raise different and new kinds of s- concerns around energy security.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000683_speaker_27.wav,"Because ultimately, you know, the security of our transformer supply chain, the security of our, um, our gallium supply chain may impact the energy sector, but also the artificial intelligence sector.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000684_speaker_26.wav,"Now we know, of course, that data centers are gonna need more energy to, to meet demand.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000685_speaker_26.wav,So let's talk a bit about the energy mix because is that increase in demand going to be met from renewables?,speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000686_speaker_26.wav,"Maybe, Sid, you could just tell us a bit about how that demand is being met today, but what we're projecting in 2030, 2035.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000687_speaker_28.wav,"So I think, uh, firstly, let's try to understand the nature of the electricity demand that comes out of data centers in the first place, right?",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000688_speaker_28.wav,"So, uh, take air conditioners.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000689_speaker_28.wav,"Now, air conditioners or air conditioning demand tends to peak at, of course, the w- the warmest parts of the day.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000690_speaker_28.wav,"So for example, in places like India, that could be 2:00 or 3:00 PM.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000691_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, electric vehicles, people tend to charge them overnight, uh, at homes or sometimes they do fast charging at different times of the day.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000692_speaker_28.wav,"Unlike these different f- uh, types of infrastructure, data centers tend to have very consistent demand through the course of the day.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000693_speaker_28.wav,"So, so the, the, the demand profile is quite flat, for which we need to ensure that therefore the electricity that is supplied to it is able to meet that really flat nature of demand coming out of data centers.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000694_speaker_28.wav,"Typically, firm loads of power.",speaker_28,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000695_speaker_28.wav,"So this is electricity that c- comes out from sources that we can control such as natural gas, uh, or nuclear energy tend to be preferred, uh, as, as the suppliers for data centers.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000696_speaker_28.wav,"But of course, as the, as the system becomes more complex, as we have more var- variable renewable energy, so this is, of course, electri- electricity from solar, from wind and so on.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000697_speaker_28.wav,"In a well-integrated system where they're complemented by more firm loads of power, but they also have storage on the side, that can ensure that even for very flat demand profiles, such as coming out of data centers, you can have increasing shares of renewables, of solar, of wind and so on, to also, uh, play a part of the demand, uh, you know, for the data centers.",speaker_28,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000698_speaker_28.wav,So we find that the supply really comes down to where or which country you're looking at.,speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000699_speaker_28.wav,"So all these various sources have a very important role to play, but we find that in the United States, for example, uh, natural gas is increasingly playing a larger role in ensuring that electricity demand is met.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000700_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, in China, it is coal that is a significant part of the growth, but really, renewables are, uh, increasing their share in, in growth.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000701_speaker_28.wav,"And therefore, it may also help, uh, decarbonize the, the demand that, that comes out of data centers, uh, especially post-2030.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000702_speaker_26.wav,"Now a lot of people will want to know the relationship between AI and carbon emissions because on the one hand, there are optimists that think that AI can solve the problems of climate change, and on the other hand, there are concerns about the added burden to the energy grid and that could potentially derail climate goals.",speaker_26,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000703_speaker_26.wav,So what does the data tell us?,speaker_26,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000704_speaker_27.wav,"Yeah, I- I like the way you put it because it's a real debate between the optimists and the pessimists, or you- you could say the doom-mongers and the people who are really bullish on the potential of AI to solve climate change.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000705_speaker_27.wav,"And essentially, our report found that neither of these very opposing positions are- are- are justified.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000706_speaker_27.wav,"So first, looking at the emissions increase.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000707_speaker_27.wav,"How does AI, uh, affect carbon emissions?",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000708_speaker_27.wav,"Well, obviously the electricity that is consumed in data centers may have been produced from fossil fuel powered sources and therefore would have, uh, emissions.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000709_speaker_27.wav,"We find that the electricity consumption of data centers today accounts for about 180 million tons of, uh, CO2 emissions, uh, every year.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000710_speaker_27.wav,"It sounds like a lot, but again, we need to put this in perspective of the total energy system.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000711_speaker_27.wav,"Today, global energy sector emissions are about 37,500 million tons per year.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000712_speaker_27.wav,"So data centers account for less than 1% of the global total, uh, today.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000713_speaker_27.wav,"That would still equate to less than, uh, 1.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000714_speaker_27.wav,"So it's not good news for climate, but it's not gonna change the game in terms of making our climate goals out of reach.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000715_speaker_27.wav,So that's on the pessimist side of the equation.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000716_speaker_27.wav,"On the optimist side of a- the equation, essentially what the optimists are saying is that we can use AI to solve climate change, right?",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000717_speaker_27.wav,"So this could be, for example, using AI to integrate more renewables into our power systems, or for example, using AI to innovate new low emissions technologies like batteries or new nuclear reactor designs and so on.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000718_speaker_27.wav,And what we find in our report is that there is a lot of potential for AI to reduce emissions and accelerate innovation.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000719_speaker_27.wav,No doubt about it.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000720_speaker_27.wav,"That potential probably exceeds the increase in emissions that you could have from data centers and, and AI, at least in the, in the near term, so to 2035.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000721_speaker_27.wav,But it's not a given that we will tap this potential.,speaker_27,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000722_speaker_27.wav,"Uh, so for example, we would need policy and regulation to promote the uptake of AI-related solutions.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000723_speaker_27.wav,"And secondly, even if we tapped all of this potential, it would still only account for a small share of the emissions reductions that we need to address climate change, so it doesn't really change the game for climate mitigation either.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000724_speaker_27.wav,"We still need to be doing what we have needed to do for a long time, which is deploy low-emissions technologies and energy efficiency as fast as we can across the entire energy system.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000725_speaker_27.wav,"AI can help with part of that, but it's not a silver bullet.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000726_speaker_26.wav,"And you mentioned efficiency, so perhaps we could just dive into that a little bit more.",speaker_26,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000727_speaker_26.wav,"And Sid, could you give us some real-world examples about how AI has made our energy system more efficient with grids, with something else that we could point at and say, ""Okay, this is what's happening right now""?",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000728_speaker_28.wav,"Really, AI is already being used for a wide variety of efficiencies, for a wide variety of optimizations of the energy system, uh, in the first place.",speaker_28,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000729_speaker_28.wav,"So what we did for the first time ever, uh, we put together some of the best case studies to understand the implications that may have on the energy system at a, at a broader level.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000730_speaker_28.wav,"We started in the oil and gas sector because, uh, uh, this sector really has been one of the early adopters of, of, uh, AI, of, of supercomputers.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000731_speaker_28.wav,"Um, you know, we find that, for example, these types of, um, applications, uh, of AI can help, uh, spot methane leaks, uh, to help reduce, um, you know, unwanted methane emissions, which, which is quite a potent, uh, greenhouse, uh, gas.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000732_speaker_28.wav,"So, so, uh, AI can, uh, you know, help kind of ensure that the oil and gas sector works in a much more sustainable manner.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000733_speaker_28.wav,"Uh, similarly, in the case of, um, the electricity sector, again, AI is increasingly, uh, being used for, uh, a vast, uh, and very different types of, uh, you know, optimizations.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000734_speaker_28.wav,"In grids, for example, we find that in, um, in certain parts, uh, you know, of the, of the energy system, the grids are congested, because they're congested because the capacity that, that the long distance transmission lines, uh, have, uh, are not able to meet the rising amounts of electricity that's being generated in, in those regions and the, and the rising amounts of demand that's arising, uh, from those regions.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000735_speaker_28.wav,"So we find that AI-led, uh, interventions can increase the capacity of these, uh, long-distance tras- transmission lines by slightly just a little bit, but it, that ensures the overall balancing of the system happens in a much more efficient manner.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000736_speaker_28.wav,"AI is already being used also to, uh, ensure that weather forecasting, uh, is improved, uh, in terms of its accuracy.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000737_speaker_28.wav,"I was just in India very recently and we were speaking to the Solar Energy Association of the country, and they mentioned how, uh, in, in one of the states, one of the key solar energy producing states, uh, there was a 20% unexpected decline in solar energy gener- generation, and that led to, um, uh, massive issues in terms of balance the grid, uh, balance the grid suddenly because that was, uh, completely unexpected.",speaker_28,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000738_speaker_28.wav,"Um, AI-led, uh, forecasting has helped improve the accuracy of forecasting by over 90%, and that has helped avoid those kind of, uh, issues since that, uh, incident occurred a few years ago.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000739_speaker_28.wav,"So in the industry sector, AI-led optimization and automation and, and improving the fuel mix and so on, uh, has the potential to reduce, uh, the energy demand, the equivalent of what the entire country of Mexico consumes today, uh, over the course of the next decade.",speaker_28,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000740_speaker_26.wav,"Okay, well, that's, that's the positive picture, but there is another side to that as well, because people are concerned about, for example, the increased possibility of cyberattacks on grids, on enef- energy infrastructures.",speaker_26,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000741_speaker_26.wav,"So Thomas, what are the things that people are concerned about?",speaker_26,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000742_speaker_27.wav,"Yeah, so I think the link between AI and energy security, it can be described as a double-edged sword.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000743_speaker_27.wav,"So if we take, for example, cyberattacks, there's no doubt that cyberattacks on energy infrastructure and energy companies are increasing.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000744_speaker_27.wav,"In our data, it has roughly tripled over the last, uh, four years, and this is cyberattacks specifically targeting energy companies, um, or, uh, critical energy, uh, infrastructure.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000745_speaker_27.wav,It's also very clear that malicious actors are using AI to make cyberattacks more sophisticated.,speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000746_speaker_27.wav,"Um, for example, you know, in our everyday lives, we might one day receive a call from someone that sounds a bit like our mum asking for a transfer of money because they've been locked out of their bank account, for example.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000747_speaker_27.wav,"That could be an AI bot that is imitating a, a person.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000748_speaker_27.wav,"This is just an example from our everyday lives, but there are, uh, similar applications of AI for, uh, cyberattacks that target corporate actors or critical infrastructure.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000749_speaker_27.wav,"So that's the sort of negative side of the, of the coin.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000750_speaker_27.wav,"On the positive side, it's very clear that to stay ahead in this arms race, it is an arms race, companies are using AI increasingly as part of their defense protocols.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000751_speaker_27.wav,"Uh, so energy companies are u- using AI to monitor their infrastructure, to monitor their digital infrastructure for malicious attacks as, as well.",speaker_27,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000752_speaker_29.wav,"[instrumental music plays] ""Cutting someone's body open and then operating when they can feel it.",speaker_29,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000753_speaker_29.wav,That is not supposed to happen.,speaker_29,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000754_speaker_29.wav,That's something from history or from war.,speaker_29,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000755_speaker_29.wav,"It can't be happening to 100,000 women a year.",speaker_29,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000756_speaker_30.wav,"As you know, every Sunday this summer, we've been bringing you episodes of our colleague's show, Modern Love.",speaker_30,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000757_speaker_30.wav,We're doing that for just a couple more weeks.,speaker_30,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000758_speaker_30.wav,"And for this week, our host, Anna Martin, is here to tell us what's on the show.",speaker_30,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000759_speaker_30.wav,"So tell me, what do you have for us this week?",speaker_30,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000760_speaker_31.wav,Male loneliness.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000761_speaker_30.wav,Men get lonely?,speaker_30,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000762_speaker_30.wav,"But no, but in all seriousness, certainly I feel like the societal-wide problem of being lonely has certainly grown as a concern, at least in my periphery.",speaker_30,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000763_speaker_31.wav,"Absolutely same, yeah.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000764_speaker_30.wav,"That is really, genuinely quite sad.",speaker_30,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000765_speaker_31.wav,It is sad.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000766_speaker_31.wav,"And it's one thing to hear those statistics, but this week, I talked to someone who realized he was actually becoming a statistic.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000767_speaker_31.wav,"Sam has this very moving, very sweet story about growing up with all of these close friendships with other boys, other young men, but then, when he reached adulthood, sort of looking around and realizing that he was deeply, deeply lonely.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000768_speaker_31.wav,I'm really excited for you to hear the story.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000769_speaker_30.wav,"I'm excited to hear it, too, Anna.",speaker_30,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000770_speaker_31.wav,"Love, now and always.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000771_speaker_31.wav,"From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000772_speaker_31.wav,"This week, I'm talking to the writer, Sam Graham Felson.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000773_speaker_31.wav,He just wrote a piece for the New York Times Magazine called Where Have All My Deep Male Friendships Gone?,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000774_speaker_32.wav,"It wasn't like one day I woke up and was like, ""Oh my God.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000775_speaker_32.wav,I'm lonely.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000776_speaker_32.wav,I can't imagine ever feeling lonely.,speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000777_speaker_32.wav,""" And then, like, [sighs] sometime in- in my 30s, I'm like, ""Wait a minute.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000778_speaker_32.wav,I think I'm actually kind of feeling lonely.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000779_speaker_32.wav,"You know, my wife is a wonderful person, the best listener ever.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000780_speaker_32.wav,"But, like, at a certain point, she's basically like, ""Dude, just go hang out with your friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000781_speaker_32.wav,Just call them and hang out with them.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000782_speaker_32.wav,""" I'm like, ""You're right, you're right.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000783_speaker_32.wav,[Laughs] [laughs] [laughs] And I did every single thing except for hang out with my friends.,speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000784_speaker_31.wav,Sam told me it felt difficult to just go hang out with his friends again.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000785_speaker_31.wav,"And to try to understand why it felt so hard, he decided to write about it.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000786_speaker_31.wav,"And full disclosure, his wife's an editor at the magazine.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000787_speaker_32.wav,"Well, I was like, look, if I'm gonna write a whole thing about how, uh, you know, I somehow let myself slip into loneliness despite having all- a- a- a wealth of, you know, close friendships, um, I feel like I owe it to myself to try to actually do something about it.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000788_speaker_31.wav,"[instrumental music plays] I wanted to know what Sam did to get his friends back into his life, what it meant for his sense of wellbeing, and how it changed what he thought it meant to be a man.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000789_speaker_31.wav,Here's our conversation.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000790_speaker_31.wav,"Sam Graham Felson, welcome to Modern Love.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000791_speaker_32.wav,Thanks so much for having me.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000792_speaker_31.wav,So we're here to talk about this piece you wrote for the New York Times Magazine.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000793_speaker_31.wav,"It's called Where Have All My Deep Male Friendships Gone, and we'll get into your story, but I wanna start by asking had you felt lonely before?",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000794_speaker_32.wav,It was totally new.,speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000795_speaker_32.wav,"Uh, I mean, you know, my- my whole life, uh, until, [laughs] you know, I became lonely, I saw myself as an extrovert.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000796_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, you know, from a young age, I remember, I found my four- report card from fourth grade, and my teacher...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000797_speaker_32.wav,I fear I may have to clip his wings.,speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000798_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, uh, but that's who I was.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000799_speaker_31.wav,W- what did friendship mean to you when you were that social butterfly in fourth grade?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000800_speaker_32.wav,Fourth grade was when I really remember having a friendship that was so intense it almost felt like falling in love.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000801_speaker_32.wav,"There was a- there was a boy named Andrew in my class who, um, he was the first kid who I had ever seen comb his hair and put, like, gel in his hair.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000802_speaker_32.wav,"And- and, um......",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000803_speaker_32.wav,"This was- Okay, hang on ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000804_speaker_32.wav,And he had a Swatch watch.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000805_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] Um, but I remember vividly, like, I had no concept of what was fashion, what was cool, or anything like that.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000806_speaker_32.wav,""" And it ended up being this thing where I felt like I was at his house every single day after school.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000807_speaker_32.wav,"where, [laughs] where, like, both of us had a crush on, uh, Christina Applegate from, uh, from Married With Children or whatever, and, um, and Jennifer Connelly from The Rocketeer.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000808_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] So, like, some of it would be sports, like playing one-on-one basketball, but, like, some of it would be like, who can drink, you know, the most water in one minute or...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000809_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, I just remember being absorbed in his world, introducing him to my world, and I just remember laughing all the time.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000810_speaker_31.wav,"And, and- I mean, but what you're saying is, in addition to the worlds, you know, of h- him introducing you to his interests, right?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000811_speaker_31.wav,"You are creating, as you're saying, the world of your relationship, right?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000812_speaker_31.wav,"And I wanna go back, you said this was a friendship, the first one with this guy, Andrew, right?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000813_speaker_31.wav,Where it felt akin to falling in love.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000814_speaker_31.wav,"And you're so young, but do you remember, like, d- can you tell me more about that connection?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000815_speaker_32.wav,"Yeah, so the reason why I compare it to falling in love is 'cause like, I know what it's like to fall in love.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000816_speaker_32.wav,"I, I fell in love with my wife very quickly, and I remember just that feeling of, like, nine out of ten of my thoughts are about this person.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000817_speaker_32.wav,"And, and, um, all I wanna do is hang out with this person, and I can't wait until the school day is over so that I have time with this guy.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000818_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] And it was also the feeling of, like, jealousy, frankly.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000819_speaker_32.wav,"hanging out with other people, I started to be like, ""Well, does he like those people more than me?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000820_speaker_32.wav,"And actually, like, what ended our friendship was that he got a girlfriend.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000821_speaker_32.wav,"And that was, like, totally devastating.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000822_speaker_32.wav,"And, and it's, it's an interesting kind of like echo of what happens later in life- Yeah ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000823_speaker_32.wav,"I remember one day, like- And that was when?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000824_speaker_32.wav,"Um, and I remember one day, uh, you know, he, he wasn't, you know, answering my calls or whatever.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000825_speaker_32.wav,"You know, let's hang out.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000826_speaker_32.wav,"Uh, it was, it was akin to being dumped.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000827_speaker_32.wav,"I do remember, like, walking home.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000828_speaker_32.wav,"And I remember just, like, walking home up that damn hill, and my legs would always be so tired when I was a kid walking up this hill.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000829_speaker_32.wav,"And just, like, feeling like each step was, like, heavy.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000830_speaker_32.wav,"And the reason why it was so hard is because, yeah, again, like, the, the degree of closeness I felt with these friends was almost like, it almost felt like being in a monogamous relationship.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000831_speaker_31.wav,"You're articulating a feeling that I think is, that I resonate with.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000832_speaker_31.wav,What did they think of it?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000833_speaker_32.wav,"I think at that point, we were young enough that the homophobia stuff hadn't start- started to really, like, you know, creep up yet.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000834_speaker_32.wav,"But certainly, like, by the time I was in seventh grade, eighth grade, um, and beyond, like, it was, it was totally...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000835_speaker_32.wav,It was constant hearing people make homophobic kind of like insults.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000836_speaker_32.wav,"Um, and, and, you know, some of it was teasing.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000837_speaker_32.wav,"Because people saw, like, you know, how close I was to, to some of my male friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000838_speaker_32.wav,""" Like, ""Let's call him gay,"" you know?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000839_speaker_32.wav,"But, but I remember, like, at one point, there used to be this thing called the slam book, where, uh, it was basically like a proto-social media, where it was those old composition notebooks with the marble black and white cover.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000840_speaker_32.wav,"Someone would, would create one of these things, and they, you, they would write a name on each page of the notebook.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000841_speaker_32.wav,"And people would write, anonymously, whatever they thought about that person.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000842_speaker_31.wav,It's a burn book.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000843_speaker_32.wav,"And I remember, like, seeing in that burn book, in the slam book, somebody, you know, wrote, ""Sam and Rob, like, are swinging on each other's nuts like Tarzan.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000844_speaker_32.wav,"Um, Rob was like, you know, one of my closest friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000845_speaker_31.wav,Y- tell me how you and Rob met.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000846_speaker_32.wav,I was 10 or 11.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000847_speaker_32.wav,There was a- a- a kid who had invited me to a sleepover birthday party.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000848_speaker_32.wav,"Uh, I hated going to sleepover birthday parties.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000849_speaker_32.wav,I'm really laying it all out on the line here.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000850_speaker_32.wav,""" [laughs] [laughs] But like, uh, I- I- I hated going to these parties because all the boys liked to watch horror movies, and I hated horror movies.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000851_speaker_32.wav,"And literally like a month before, I had just been to another sleepover party where they had shown this movie called Child's Play 2, which is so stupid.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000852_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, there wasn't like another room that I could go into.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000853_speaker_32.wav,Can you come pick me up?,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000854_speaker_32.wav,""" And, you know, I, like, you know, I- I'm sure they could tell I wasn't sick, and it was totally embarrassing.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000855_speaker_32.wav,"So anyway, so I really didn't want to go to this sleepover party.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000856_speaker_32.wav,"And, you know, it's like probably 11:00 PM.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000857_speaker_32.wav,"Like, we'd- we'd- we'd eaten tons of pizza, made your own make, make-your-own ice cream sundaes.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000858_speaker_32.wav,"And- and then everyone like goes into the den, in his house, to- to, uh, start watching a movie.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000859_speaker_32.wav,"And before they even picked the movie, I'm just like, ""I- I gotta get outta here.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000860_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, and this other kid at the party, his name was Rob, was like, ""You know what?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000861_speaker_32.wav,""" And I was like, ""Oh, that's- that's- that's my, uh-"" That's my escape?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000862_speaker_32.wav,"And, uh, he was playing a game called Final Fantasy.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000863_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] And, um, and he's like, ""Dude, do you wanna play?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000864_speaker_32.wav,"And by the way, my parents were hippies.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000865_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, I don't even remember what we talked about, but- but we stayed up all night.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000866_speaker_32.wav,"And I remember really connecting to him, but also just feeling like, um, he saved me.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000867_speaker_32.wav,"And I don't know if he was conscious that he'd done it, but I felt that he had saved me, and I felt this overwhelming gratitude towards him.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000868_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, I- I quickly realized, this guy is like unlike anyone I've ever hung out with before.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000869_speaker_32.wav,"He was really into, like, philosophy.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000870_speaker_32.wav,"Like, he was really into- It's young to be into philosophy.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000871_speaker_32.wav,"Like, we both were obsessed with the Boston Celtics, and- and, um, and- and- and things like that.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000872_speaker_32.wav,But he was intellectually and morally serious in a way that like none of my other friends were at that age.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000873_speaker_32.wav,"And I just remember like thinking like, ""Wow, this guy is operating on another level, and I wanna be a part of that level.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000874_speaker_32.wav,""" I- I was really concerned with being cool.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000875_speaker_32.wav,"Like, I- I was very concerned with, uh, you know, trying to fit in.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000876_speaker_32.wav,And he was the opposite.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000877_speaker_32.wav,Literally nobody wore khakis except for him.,speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000878_speaker_32.wav,"And I was just so impressed of like, this guy doesn't care about being cool.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000879_speaker_32.wav,his- his- his world of like just being a- an individual.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000880_speaker_31.wav,"You know, you're doing something I think is very difficult, which is describing why you love someone.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000881_speaker_31.wav,"I mean, I wonder, you're having all of these...",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000882_speaker_31.wav,"You're spending so much time with him, you're learning from him.",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000883_speaker_31.wav,What do you feel like you were learning about friendship at this- at this point?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000884_speaker_32.wav,"I think ro- I think Rob helped me see that like a- a- a friendship can be as serious, emotionally, as a romantic relationship.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000885_speaker_32.wav,"It can be as serious, emotionally, as a family kinship.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000886_speaker_32.wav,It's a big deal.,speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000887_speaker_32.wav,"But I- I think the other thing I just learned from these intense friendships is like, like, I- I was having the time of my damn life, you know?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000888_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] Like, I was really, did not like school.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000889_speaker_32.wav,"Uh, and all I could think about was either after school or the summer, when I could spend all day, you know, playing basketball with my friends, and- and- and chatting with them late into the night.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000890_speaker_32.wav,They made me happy.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000891_speaker_32.wav,They feel good.,speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000892_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] Yeah, that- that's the thing I learned most from it, is just like they- it- it feels good to be with other people.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000893_speaker_32.wav,"And that, and it's, uh, you know, it- I- it's funny that I have to like spell that out now because it's like something I have to tell myself.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000894_speaker_31.wav,"I honestly feel like emotional when I hear you say, ""I'm having the time of my damn life.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000895_speaker_31.wav,"It's like, it's so joyful and fulfilling, and your friends are the center of your world.",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000896_speaker_31.wav,"And not only that, you know that you're the center of theirs.",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000897_speaker_31.wav,"I wonder, w- were you talking about feelings with- with Rob, or with other friends?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000898_speaker_31.wav,"Like, were you going deeper on that level?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000899_speaker_32.wav,It's a good question.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000900_speaker_32.wav,"I- I definitely, like most men who I've met and talked to, I......",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000901_speaker_32.wav,"So I would say, like, the answer is yes, but I would say, like, it would start with talking about something in a more abstract way, like a moral dilemma.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000902_speaker_32.wav,"What I remember is, it was always, like, late in the night, just me, me and this other friend.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000903_speaker_32.wav,"We'd be hanging out, watch a funny movie, right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000904_speaker_32.wav,"I'm, like, lying on the cot on the floor, and we're joking around, and I g- I guess the first stage of the arc is, like, the joking around.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000905_speaker_32.wav,"The second stage may be, you know, talking about the girls we wanna kiss, whatever.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000906_speaker_31.wav,"And I think it's important to say, it's dark.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000907_speaker_32.wav,"And just as one is starting to doze off, the other one's like, ""By the way, like, there's one other thing I wanna talk about.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000908_speaker_32.wav,"So I remember it would be, like, after talking about a lot of other stuff, then feeling, like, loose enough, that's when we would talk about, you know, the, the heavier, more emotional things.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000909_speaker_32.wav,"But, like, you know, insecurities, and the things that I felt bad about myself- Mm-hmm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000910_speaker_31.wav,"Would you ever say, ""I love you,"" to your friends?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000911_speaker_32.wav,"No, and I mean, even now, like, I would like to be able to say that, but...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000912_speaker_32.wav,"And I say it once in a blue moon, but, like, it's something that, um, I struggle to do.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000913_speaker_31.wav,"Um- Did you have, like, a way that you expressed your love for one another, if not in words?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000914_speaker_32.wav,"You know, there wasn't, like, hugging.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000915_speaker_32.wav,"Because there was still this consciousness of, like, you know, you- The Burn Book that you mentioned, yeah.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000916_speaker_32.wav,"You don't want, you don't want anyone to perceive you as being something other than friends at that age, you know?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000917_speaker_32.wav,"Um, so even, even in private, you're gonna sit a little bit further away on the couch- Hmm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000918_speaker_31.wav,"But it seems like you knew, you knew that there was a deep friendship and, in fact, a, a love there between you all.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000919_speaker_32.wav,"Yeah, and the reason, the reason why I, again, I think of it as love is, like, just the, the amount of mental space these close friends occupied.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000920_speaker_32.wav,"It was, it was really, like, spending a lot of time thinking, like, ""Would Petey like this, you know, song?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000921_speaker_32.wav,Would Benny like this pizza place that I just discovered?,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000922_speaker_32.wav,"You know, like, just, just constantly thinking, like, in terms of my relationships, what can I share with a friend?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000923_speaker_31.wav,Did you think you'd be friends with these guys forever? Yeah.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000924_speaker_31.wav,"[instrumental music plays] When we come back, what happened to Sam's friendships?",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000925_speaker_31.wav,Stay with us.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000926_speaker_33.wav,"Well, you could know way more if you subscribed to The New York Times.",speaker_33,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000927_speaker_33.wav,"What we can cover on the show is really just a sliver of the incredible reporting that's being published every day in The New York Times, unexpected, insightful articles you might never otherwise come across.",speaker_33,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000928_speaker_33.wav,"For me, that's this piece about how states legally classify butterflies.",speaker_33,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000929_speaker_33.wav,"The Times obviously delivers the vital, essential news of the day, much of which we cover on The Daily, but there is so much beyond that to explore.",speaker_33,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000930_speaker_33.wav,"And yes, you support all of this journalism when you become a subscriber to The New York Times, but you also get to experience it.",speaker_33,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000931_speaker_33.wav,"You get to know cool stuff, and you get to be informed about what's going on in the world.",speaker_33,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000932_speaker_33.wav,You can subscribe at nytimes.com/subscribe.,speaker_33,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000933_speaker_31.wav,"[instrumental music plays] So, Sam, I really wanna dig into what happened after college because I imagine it wasn't like you graduated college, and then all of a sudden, you know, your friendships disappeared.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000934_speaker_31.wav,"But something did change, clearly, as you got older, more into adulthood.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000935_speaker_31.wav,"What were your friendships like in sort of your mid-20s after you left, after you graduated college?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000936_speaker_32.wav,"Immediately after college, they were amazing because I was single, living in New York, so I had various apartments that I shared with different friends, and, and that was like, you know, basically an extension of college because it was, you know, staying up super late every night, often, you know, with, uh, beers or weed or whatever- [laughs] ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000937_speaker_32.wav,"I, I remember, like, again, having the time of my life in my early 20s after college.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000938_speaker_32.wav,"Like, and it was, like, somewhere......",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000939_speaker_32.wav,"That was, like, when a lot of my friends and me started to be like, ""Well, we need to get our shit together,"" right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000940_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] There was, like, it was like this moment- I know exactly what...",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000941_speaker_32.wav,"So, like, that started happening.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000942_speaker_32.wav,"And I had friends who were going to law school, friends who were going to med school.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000943_speaker_32.wav,and so that starts to happen.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000944_speaker_32.wav,"And then the bigger thing, of course, the biggest thing, I would say, is people started...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000945_speaker_32.wav,"Their, their relationships started to get more and more serious.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000946_speaker_32.wav,"So I had a girlfriend in college, and, um, we decided to move in together.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000947_speaker_32.wav,"So, so now I'm going from, like, living with friends to living with, uh, my romantic partner.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000948_speaker_32.wav,"And with friends, for the most part, like, you know, you don't really have to, like, check in with them about anything.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000949_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] Um, also, like, with friends, it's like none of the dishes are getting done, and we're both slobs, and, like, we don't care.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000950_speaker_32.wav,"But, like, when you're in a romantic thing, it's like, ""All right, now you gotta take the chores more seriously.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000951_speaker_32.wav,You're really sharing a space- Yeah ...,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000952_speaker_32.wav,"And, you know, so you're, you're running your plans by, by your partner.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000953_speaker_32.wav,"So, so little by little, you move in with your partner.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000954_speaker_32.wav,"You are going out less because you already are with your partner, and, like, a big part of going out is like, ""Oh, well, maybe I'll meet the person tonight- [laughs] ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000955_speaker_32.wav,""" And, and you don't have that anymore.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000956_speaker_32.wav,"And, you know, when, when you're with, like, you know, the, the love of your life and you can see them whenever you want, this idea starts to creep in, ""Well, like, what do I even need my friends for?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000957_speaker_32.wav,"""I have, like, somebody who I love to talk to.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000958_speaker_31.wav,"I also get to do- And I love to kiss, yeah [laughs] ...",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000959_speaker_32.wav,"And, and it's all in the same package.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000960_speaker_31.wav,"It's like, when this was happening, this moving in with, with your partner who becomes...",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000961_speaker_31.wav,"Or your girlfriend, rather, who becomes your wife, and this sort of slowly s- I don't wanna say...",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000962_speaker_31.wav,"Like, the friendships becoming less and less central to your life, maybe less and less of a priority, were you aware of that?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000963_speaker_32.wav,I was definitely aware of it because some of my friends were giving me grief about it.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000964_speaker_32.wav,"""Oh, look at Sam.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000965_speaker_32.wav,"Um, I was...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000966_speaker_32.wav,"I mean, the honest truth is that, at the time, I didn't consciously miss my friends that much.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000967_speaker_32.wav,"I was so excited about being with my romantic partner and, like, so focused on, like, trying to crush it and getting my shit together, all that stuff.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000968_speaker_32.wav,I wasn't really...,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000969_speaker_32.wav,"If anything, like, I was annoyed at my friends for guilt-tripping me.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000970_speaker_32.wav,"I didn't literally say that, but I wa- I was thinking something along those lines.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000971_speaker_32.wav,Becoming mature- Hmm ...,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000972_speaker_32.wav,"involved getting a romantic partner and, like, not goofing around with your friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000973_speaker_32.wav,"Like, you're not really a man unless you, like, stop hanging out with your friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000974_speaker_31.wav,"Yeah, or hone in on this person who you love.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000975_speaker_31.wav,"Your focus narrows, and you meet this romantic partner who you love, you love deeply.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000976_speaker_31.wav,"It's like you were putting so much on this romantic relationship that friendship kinda seemed like a distraction, it's almost what I'm hearing you say?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000977_speaker_32.wav,They almost felt like a luxury.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000978_speaker_32.wav,"Like, it's like, ""Okay, if I spend two straight weeks not going out, eating healthy, not boozing late into the night, and being a nice partner, then, like, I'll indulge.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000979_speaker_31.wav,Where was Rob during all this?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000980_speaker_32.wav,"B- So, so Rob also moved to New York City- Hmm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000981_speaker_32.wav,"Um, at a certain point, he moved back to Boston.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000982_speaker_32.wav,"And we were still communicating on the phone and, and, and writing each other these, like, long emails.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000983_speaker_32.wav,"Like, we would write each other, like, 3,000 or 4,000 or 5,000-word emails.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000984_speaker_32.wav,"And some of them were really emotionally mature, um- What were you talking about?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000985_speaker_32.wav,"You know, I don't feel like you, you fully accounted for the way that you hurt me.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000986_speaker_32.wav,"And then writing back, ""I hear that,"" bl- You know, stuff like, like...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000987_speaker_32.wav,"Stuff that is way more mature than, like, the way that I now interact with my male friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000988_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, no one sends emails like that anymore.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000989_speaker_32.wav,Rob was in Boston.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000990_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, yeah, at that point, like, many of my best friends had dispersed by then.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000991_speaker_32.wav,"Then, get married.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000992_speaker_32.wav,[laughs] [laughs] Congratulations.,speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000993_speaker_32.wav,"Um, uh......",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000994_speaker_32.wav,"marriage is just, like, the relationship thing but on steroids, 'cause you're like, ""Well, now I'm married, so, like.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000995_speaker_32.wav,".."" I mean, of- of course there were no, like, actual rules saying, ""Well, you can't go see your friends now that you're married.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000996_speaker_32.wav,But there's this internalized idea.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000997_speaker_32.wav,"It's like, ""Well, you know, now that you're a husband, you should be, you should be spending a lot more time at home and not out with your friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000998_speaker_31.wav,"Like, w- where were you...",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_000999_speaker_31.wav,H- who or what or w- where were you getting that message from?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001000_speaker_32.wav,"I think, I think the best, uh, way I can answer that is that it, it was, it was just vibes.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001001_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] It was like vibes that come down from years and years and years of watching movies and TV shows, and all kinds of messages about like, this is what, um, a boy does and this is what a man does.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001002_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, a, a grown man who continues to, like, hang out with his friends is a man-child, right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001003_speaker_32.wav,"A grown man is supposed to be at home with his wife, or out there crushing it, making a lot of money so he can be the breadwinner and bring home a lot.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001004_speaker_32.wav,"from these various, like, cultural inputs, right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001005_speaker_32.wav,"Like, this is the way it's supposed to be.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001006_speaker_32.wav,"And then, having kids, all of a sudden now you actually are insanely busy.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001007_speaker_31.wav,"You a- I mean, I say right like I know, but- [laughs] ...",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001008_speaker_32.wav,"For the first time in your life, you, you, you actually truly cannot do whatever the hell you want.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001009_speaker_32.wav,"You, you kinda can't do whatever you want when you're married, 'cause it's rude to your partner.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001010_speaker_32.wav,"But like, if you do whatever you want when you have a kid, like, the kid will starve and die.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001011_speaker_32.wav,"You know, the thing I was not prepared for, among many things, was like just the amount of dishes and laundry that I was doing.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001012_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, and then you're not sleeping for years.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001013_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] Sorry to scare you off from having kids, but, uh- I...",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001014_speaker_32.wav,"You know, you, you, you quickly...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001015_speaker_32.wav,"Well, I say you get used to it- [laughs] ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001016_speaker_32.wav,"Uh, so you really do have less time to hang out with your friends at that point.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001017_speaker_32.wav,"Um, but what, what ended up happening was, I was saying no to friends more, or just, like, not reaching out to friends as much, because, um, I wa- I was genuinely swamped, and I was, I was tired and I didn't wanna go out at night- That makes sense ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001018_speaker_32.wav,"But the part where it started to get truly, like, corrosive to my friendships was, okay, things start getting a little bit easier with the kids.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001019_speaker_32.wav,"Like, they get sleep-trained.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001020_speaker_32.wav,"I'm in more of a routine where I know how to do the laundry faster and, like, I do have a little bit more free time on my hands.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001021_speaker_32.wav,"But uh-oh, it's been months since I hung out with a friend.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001022_speaker_32.wav,"Um, do I even know how to hang out with a friend anymore?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001023_speaker_32.wav,"Well- Like, what are we even gonna talk about?",speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001024_speaker_31.wav,"It's like, was there a moment where you kind of looked up amidst the blur of, of children and obligations, all these legitimate things, of course, [inhales deeply] and said like, ""Oh my God, it's been months since I've seen Rob,"" or insert other friend here.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001025_speaker_32.wav,"Well, well, I, I started joking around with my wife.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001026_speaker_32.wav,"You know, ""Look at me, I'm, like, becoming one of these cliche data points of, like, the lonely American male.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001027_speaker_32.wav,""" But it was still kind of a joke that I didn't quite take seriously.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001028_speaker_32.wav,"And then, at a certain point, I just started feeling like, um, ""Oh wait a second, this is actually a problem.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001029_speaker_32.wav,"Like many, many new parents, I was arguing, you know, with my wife about our kids, you know?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001030_speaker_32.wav,"And it was, it was exactly the kind of m- emotional moment in my life that I really should have reached out to other friends who were going through the exact same thing that I was going through- Yeah.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001031_speaker_32.wav,And I wasn't reaching out to them.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001032_speaker_32.wav,"I just, I wasn't...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001033_speaker_32.wav,"I had no one to, especially if, like, my wife and I were in a place where, you know, we had just gotten into an, to an argument or something.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001034_speaker_32.wav,"Just, like, talk to my wife about how hard it was that I got into an argument?",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001035_speaker_31.wav,"Would you, like, go to your phone and think about texting or calling a friend and then just be like, ""I mean.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001036_speaker_32.wav,"I would, like, go to my phone, be like, ""I, I'm gonna text my friend and see, you know, if he's around to talk.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001037_speaker_32.wav,""" And then, like, I'd be like, ""Ah, do I really wanna get into it?",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001038_speaker_32.wav,""" And then I'd be like, ""Ah, like, do I really wanna, like, impose my whining on my friend who's also got his own shit going",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001039_speaker_32.wav,"on, and, like, you know...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001040_speaker_32.wav,"Oh, look, there's a new episode of this podcast.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001041_speaker_32.wav,""" Click, and then I end up listening to a podcast.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001042_speaker_32.wav,And I just ended up listening to a tremendous number of podcasts instead of calling friends.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001043_speaker_31.wav,"Tell me what show, what, what shows you were turning to.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001044_speaker_31.wav,What were you listening to instead of calling a friend?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001045_speaker_32.wav,"So, I started out actually listening to, like, podcasts about meditation.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001046_speaker_32.wav,"Yeah, and, um, and then, like, you know, uh, started going...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001047_speaker_32.wav,"Because he just has had everyone on his show, you know?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001048_speaker_32.wav,"He's talking for a long, long, long time, but, um, but, you know, like, he'd have-...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001049_speaker_32.wav,"He'd have Michael Pollan, whose book I had just read and really wanted to hear more from Michael Pollan on his show.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001050_speaker_32.wav,"And, and, you know, again, the reason I'm doing this is because, like, I'm feeling overwhelmed, lonely, all of these feelings, and instead of relating to, you know, other people and calling a friend- Mm-hmm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001051_speaker_32.wav,"""I can do this all on my own.",speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001052_speaker_31.wav,"I mean, it- it's this kind of, um, rogue self-sufficiency, right?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001053_speaker_31.wav,"Like, ""I'm not feeling so good emotionally or, or, or whatever, and I want to address this but, you know, I'm going to fix this myself by listening and learning and working on myself.",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001054_speaker_32.wav,"There was something in the Rogan thing that appealed to me, which was basically like, ""Stop making excuses.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001055_speaker_32.wav,"But, like, man up and basically the easiest thing you could do right now to change your life, all these podcasts said this: go work out.",speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001056_speaker_32.wav,Go work out.,speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001057_speaker_32.wav,Pump some goddamn iron.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001058_speaker_32.wav,"And, and I was like, um, ""Oh, that's interesting.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001059_speaker_32.wav,"Like, maybe I should try that.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001060_speaker_32.wav,"Like, if you just take care of your body, not only are you gonna get healthier, but, like, everything else in your life is gonna fall into place.",speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001061_speaker_32.wav,"I think, in a way, part of the reason why it appealed so much was 'cause it's like, I knew that even though it's really hard to, like, exercise, uh, all the time and, you know, lift heavy weights, I knew that on some level it was easier than doing deep emotional work.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001062_speaker_32.wav,""" And it was like, what was I doing in my late 30s and early 40s every spare moment I had?",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001063_speaker_32.wav,I was exercising.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001064_speaker_32.wav,I was going to CrossFit.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001065_speaker_32.wav,"Because, you know, I had this idea that, like, well, at least if I'm doing this I'll, you know, I'll be able to, like, basically conquer whatever lonely feelings I'm having.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001066_speaker_32.wav,"It was the idea basically that, like, life was to be crushed, not to be enjoyed.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001067_speaker_31.wav,"I mean, and it also is a...",speaker_31,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001068_speaker_31.wav,It's a solitary...,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001069_speaker_31.wav,"It's like go and lift this thing, and then when that gets easy, lift it heavier.",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001070_speaker_31.wav,"The power is within you to change you, and it's still very, like, individual-focused, intrapersonal, so I can see why it would appeal.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001071_speaker_31.wav,"I mean, I guess I wonder, like, was this a conscious choice on your end to, to turn, like, towards these podcasts or- or working out or whatever instead of friends?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001072_speaker_32.wav,I don't think I was aware of it.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001073_speaker_32.wav,"I think, I think I was still telling myself, uh, you know, ""You don't have time for friends 'cause you're so busy.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001074_speaker_32.wav,""" I was also in denial about being lonely, right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001075_speaker_32.wav,I just knew that I felt- I felt bad and I wanted to feel good.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001076_speaker_32.wav,"And I was like, ""Oh, well, if I exercise, I'll feel good.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001077_speaker_31.wav,"I think that's a really important point, and I'm...",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001078_speaker_31.wav,"I really think that there is still something very icky and, like, we're allergic to self-identifying as lonely because it's very vulnerable to admit that not only to yourself, but also out loud.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001079_speaker_31.wav,"So first of all, thanks for saying that.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001080_speaker_31.wav,"[laughs] But I understand why it would be shielded in these layers of, ""I'm not the kinda person that gets lonely.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001081_speaker_31.wav,""" And also, like, look, there's this whole thing in the culture of the incel, right?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001082_speaker_32.wav,The lonely guy sitting in his mom's basement on his computer.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001083_speaker_32.wav,"And I think, I think every man who feels lonely is, like, terrified of being grouped in with that, right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001084_speaker_32.wav,"So I think that's a part of it, and you're gonna use every adjective except for lonely.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001085_speaker_31.wav,What were you afraid of in calling...,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001086_speaker_32.wav,I was afraid that my friends would think that I was needy.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001087_speaker_32.wav,"I'm not, like, a, like, a bro.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001088_speaker_32.wav,"I grew up with, like, a super...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001089_speaker_32.wav,In a super feminist household.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001090_speaker_32.wav,"Um, even I had so deeply internalized the idea that showing weakness as a man is tantamount to not being a man.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001091_speaker_32.wav,"I was afraid that if I called and- and- and said, ""Hey, man, like, I'm- I'm really lonely and, uh, it makes me sad to be alone and, you know, I just needed to tell you,"" I was afraid that they'd be like, ""Oh, God.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001092_speaker_32.wav,"Like, are you kidding me?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001093_speaker_32.wav,""" Because, uh, you know, again, I've been conditioned to think that basically, like, the- the main ways to relate to other dudes unless it's 4:00 AM and you've been warming up- Right . ..",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001094_speaker_32.wav,"and- and the main way of just, like, emoting generally as a man, I find...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001095_speaker_32.wav,"Like, there are two modes that are acceptable....",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001096_speaker_32.wav,kidding around and anger. Right?,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001097_speaker_32.wav,"Like, you're allowed to- So interesting.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001098_speaker_32.wav,"You're allowed to fight other dudes, but you're not allowed to hug a dude.",speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001099_speaker_32.wav,[laughs] So either I'm allowed to be angry or I'm allowed to joke around.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001100_speaker_32.wav,"So if I call my friend and I'm just sincere and talking about, like- Yep ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001101_speaker_32.wav,"the sadness in my heart or whatever, is he gonna think that I'm, like, you know, uh, I could use- Less of a man ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001102_speaker_31.wav,"That's so interesting, and I really appreciate you laying it out.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001103_speaker_31.wav,"But, uh, you know, I'm thinking about how you talked about when you were younger, you had all these deeply emotional conversations with your friends.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001104_speaker_31.wav,You said that Rob was one of your closest friends.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001105_speaker_31.wav,Were you in touch with him at all?,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001106_speaker_32.wav,"Um, at this point, Rob is, um, doing a post-doc fellowship in North Carolina.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001107_speaker_32.wav,"So even further away than Boston, obviously.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001108_speaker_32.wav,"Um, uh, I am mostly communicating with Rob through basically, like, a group email chat that we've had going now for, like, almost 20 years.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001109_speaker_32.wav,"And so I'm communicating with him and other friends through this, through this group chat.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001110_speaker_32.wav,Calling and less and less and less over the years.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001111_speaker_32.wav,"A subset of this email list, they're, like, kind of what we like to call caucuses in the email list.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001112_speaker_32.wav,"And there, there was a bike trip, uh, group.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001113_speaker_32.wav,"I actually, like, was one of the people that initiated this group, and I said, ""Let's do a bike trip, you know, once a year.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001114_speaker_32.wav,"And, and that bike trip continued for many, many years- Wow ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001115_speaker_32.wav,"I had kids and, you know, I made all the excuses why I was too busy.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001116_speaker_32.wav,"And once, once my life started to stabilize a little bit, when my kids got a little bit older, I, I told myself, like, ""I, I'm really gonna go on the bike trip this year.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001117_speaker_32.wav,"And then, like, in 2021, I was like, ""I'm definitely going this year.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001118_speaker_32.wav,""" [laughs] You know what, like, I have, like, really, at this point, sidelined my friendships to, like, a degree that is, like, it just way. ..",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001119_speaker_32.wav,So it was like...,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001120_speaker_32.wav,"It was Christmas break, and I met up with, um, basically the crew that goes on this bike trip at, at a bar in Boston.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001121_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, a lot of these guys were guys who got...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001122_speaker_32.wav,"Had gone every year for the past decade, and I hadn't been on one for, like, eight years.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001123_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, I basically kept trying to bring up the bike trip proactively, 'cause I really wanted to demonstrate, ""I'm, I'm coming this year.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001124_speaker_32.wav,"""I know I've flaked out in the past, but I'm coming this year.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001125_speaker_32.wav,""" And Rob basically was like, ""Yeah, whatever.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001126_speaker_32.wav,"And one thing led to another and he brought up a particularly egregious example of when I had flaked out, right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001127_speaker_32.wav,"And he was just like, you know, like, like, ""You never fully accounted for what a dick move that was,"" frankly.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001128_speaker_32.wav,"I'm like, ""Why are you bringing up some shit that happened nearly a decade ago?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001129_speaker_32.wav,""" Like, you know, I'm in my 40s now.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001130_speaker_32.wav,Let's just talk about the logistics of this biking trip.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001131_speaker_32.wav,"And eventually, one thing led to another, and, like, the words got more and more heated.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001132_speaker_32.wav,And I am not a violent person.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001133_speaker_32.wav,"In fact, like, I've, I have actually never been in a fight in my entire life. Hmm.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001134_speaker_32.wav,"And I don't know if it was, like, listening to too much of the Joe Rogan stuff or whatever, but, like, I just said to him at one point, I said...",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001135_speaker_32.wav,"He was getting really close to my face, and I said, I said, ""If you don't get the fuck out of my face, I'm gonna knock every fucking one of your teeth out.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001136_speaker_32.wav,And I meant it.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001137_speaker_32.wav,"And this, this was something I was saying to, like, my dear, beloved, one of my oldest friends, of m- of my most beloved friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001138_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, it got broken up by the other guys before anything led to actual blows.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001139_speaker_32.wav,"We went our separate ways, and, like, I was, I was really pissed and, like- Can I ask you?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001140_speaker_31.wav,"When you were, like, leaving the bar, you were angry, sure.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001141_speaker_32.wav,"I mean, the, the, the, the emotions immediately after were just anger at him.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001142_speaker_32.wav,[laughs] [laughs] Because it was easier to feel angry- Yeah ...,speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001143_speaker_32.wav,"Like, he, he picked a fight with me for no reason.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001144_speaker_32.wav,"I mean, truth, truth be told, like, there was a point at which I was like, ""You know what?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001145_speaker_32.wav,"Looking back at him, like, I, I can't believe that that thought even crossed my mind.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001146_speaker_32.wav,"But it was, like, it was actually easier for me to just, just move on and not be friends than to, like, have a heart-to-heart conversation about the feelings that were involved in that exchange.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001147_speaker_32.wav,"And yeah, and, and that's when I started reflecting on, like, the fact that I hadn't gone on any trip for eight years, and I started just thinking more and more, like, about how much I had deprioritized friendship, and then how much I had...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001148_speaker_32.wav,"As a result of years of deprioritizing friendship, how much I had gotten accustomed to being alone and......",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001149_speaker_32.wav,"almost being intimidated by the idea of, like, trying to rekindle my friendships.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001150_speaker_32.wav,"And, and so I would say, like, that fight was the real precipitating moment where I was like, ""I have made every other thing in, that is supposedly good for your mental health a priority.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001151_speaker_32.wav,"And yet, I didn't do the number one most important thing, which was to hang out with real people in person and prioritize friendship.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001152_speaker_32.wav,""" When we come back, Sam takes steps to reconnect with his friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001153_speaker_31.wav,That's next.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001154_speaker_31.wav,"Like, how did you try to start to",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001155_speaker_31.wav,reprioritize and recenter friendship in your life?,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001156_speaker_31.wav,"And also, did you go on the bike trip?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001157_speaker_32.wav,"Uh, [laughs] the, the, the bike trip that year, um, ended up not happening.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001158_speaker_32.wav,"Um, but I...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001159_speaker_32.wav,"It's funny, you know.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001160_speaker_32.wav,"I, I found a podcast, um- [laughs] Not podcasting.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001161_speaker_32.wav,This podcast has a very explicit purpose.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001162_speaker_32.wav,"It has a very explicit purpose, which is to offer advice to men who are struggling with loneliness.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001163_speaker_32.wav,"And I needed to hear it said out loud in, like, very sort of, like, bro plain language, right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001164_speaker_32.wav,"[Laughs] [laughs] So, [laughs] so, like, one of the things that, that really resonated w- with me was, ""Be the friend.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001165_speaker_32.wav,""" Be the friend means, like, don't wait for the other guy to call you.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001166_speaker_32.wav,"Just call and ask them to hang out, right?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001167_speaker_32.wav,"And, and the, the, the beautiful thing about listening to this show is that, like, it, it's easy for guys to listen to who are not into the touchy-feely stuff- Mm-hmm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001168_speaker_32.wav,"Instead, they're just like, ""All right.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001169_speaker_32.wav,It's very simple.,speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001170_speaker_32.wav,"TCS, okay?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001171_speaker_31.wav,Text weekly.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001172_speaker_32.wav,"""Call monthly.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001173_speaker_32.wav,"""And see quarterly, okay?",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001174_speaker_32.wav,"""So all you have to do is see your friends four times a year, call them once a month, and text them once a week, and, like, that's all you have to do.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001175_speaker_32.wav,"And then because it's in your reminders, you just have to do it.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001176_speaker_32.wav,""" You know, so that was, like, one of the more kind of hack, hack-based, uh, uh, tips that they gave that I did kinda find helpful.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001177_speaker_32.wav,"And essentially, this is the antidote to my fear of seeming needy or weak or whiny or whatever.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001178_speaker_32.wav,"A- and by the way, once I started calling my friends and, you know, it turns out, gee, who would've thought, they're totally willing to talk about emotions.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001179_speaker_31.wav,""" Do you remember, like, an early phone call or even an early Hangout?",speaker_31,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001180_speaker_31.wav,Were you nervous?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001181_speaker_31.wav,"Like, you were reentering this place you hadn't been.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001182_speaker_32.wav,"There was a specific friend who was, uh, one of my college roommates.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001183_speaker_32.wav,"Um, a guy who had lived abroad for a long time and we fell kinda outta touch, who, who moved back to the city and, you know, lived not that far from me.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001184_speaker_32.wav,"And yet, I still...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001185_speaker_32.wav,"And I loved this guy, but, like, I still hadn't seen him, you know, in a really, really long time, even though he now lived near me.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001186_speaker_32.wav,"I'm making the effort, and then he's like, ""All right, well, you know, there's this concert that I wanna go to in, in, uh, Greenwich Village.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001187_speaker_32.wav,""" And I'm like, ""Okay, all right.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001188_speaker_32.wav,""" Like, I really don't actually wanna go because I'm, like, nervous- Mm-hmm . ..",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001189_speaker_32.wav,"because I'm out of, out of practice basically having, you know, being, being a friend.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001190_speaker_32.wav,"Like, are we gonna have nothing to talk about?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001191_speaker_32.wav,"And it's the winter and I'm like, ""Oh, it's gonna be.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001192_speaker_32.wav,"But again, because, like, I'm, I'm now like, ""You know what?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001193_speaker_32.wav,"You're gonna, you're gonna go, you know?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001194_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, and I, and I go and of course it's totally easy and natural.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001195_speaker_32.wav,"I'm, like, asking him stuff about his work that I've never asked him before, and then, like, I started to tell him a little bit about, like, the struggles that I'd had in this- Wow ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001196_speaker_32.wav,"period where I was, where I was, like, feeling lonely.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001197_speaker_32.wav,"And also, like, like, my loneliness was definitely affecting my creativity.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001198_speaker_32.wav,"And because I was in the creative dumps, like, it made me even less wanting to hang out with people 'cause I was like, ""Well, I don't wanna drag them down 'cause I have writer's block,"" or whatever.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001199_speaker_32.wav,And I started to tell him about all that stuff.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001200_speaker_31.wav,"To say that out loud to someone le- that's not your wife, like, that feels big to share that with another guy.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001201_speaker_32.wav,"And you know what's funny, though?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001202_speaker_32.wav,"[laughs] It, it didn't actually feel hard to do it.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001203_speaker_32.wav,And he was just like-...,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001204_speaker_32.wav,"You're a creative person, like, this is part of the- Mm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001205_speaker_32.wav,"Like, we- we [laughs] , we had, like, enormous, like, ice cream cones at Van Leeuwen with, like- [Laughs] This is the best night ever ...",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001206_speaker_32.wav,"I really didn't want the night to end, but like, it was getting close to the midnight train.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001207_speaker_32.wav,"I remember her saying, like, ""I just had, like, the best night ever.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001208_speaker_32.wav,""" She's like, ""Well, what happened?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001209_speaker_32.wav,Why was it so great?,speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001210_speaker_32.wav,""" I was like, ""I don't know, just like, it was just so great.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001211_speaker_32.wav,""" And I, like, I kept saying these general things, but it was the very act of just, like, being with this old beloved friend.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001212_speaker_32.wav,"And- and even just getting, like, a little bit of validation, and even just sharing a little bit of emotional stuff, that just felt, like, so good.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001213_speaker_32.wav,"I remember, like, having this feeling of being on the train, looking out of the window and, like, seeing the- the, like, blur of the lights almost looking like, you know, ribbons of light.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001214_speaker_32.wav,"And I would, I just, like, remember this feeling of, like, I'm standing in front of a door that is, that felt like it was closed for so long and now the door is open.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001215_speaker_32.wav,"And- and I can see through the door and, like, on the other side of the door are, like, my friends and they're, like, waiting.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001216_speaker_32.wav,"They're waiting for me to- to come hang out, and, like, all I have to do is be the friend and, like, call them and go hang out.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001217_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, and I, and- and I remember, like, feeling really emotional, like, having that image in my mind and thinking like, um, ""How did I...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001218_speaker_32.wav,"How did I let myself, um, go for so many years without connecting to all these people who I love?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001219_speaker_32.wav,"And, like, how did I convince myself that that was, like, um, the- the- the right path?",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001220_speaker_32.wav,"After years of really grinding and, like- Mm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001221_speaker_32.wav,"Like, all I have to do is hang out more.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001222_speaker_32.wav,""" And, like, nothing, nothing has ever worked in terms of making me feel happy like, like being with the friends that I love and being in community.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001223_speaker_32.wav,"And, like, this is the miracle cure.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001224_speaker_31.wav,How are you two now?,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001225_speaker_31.wav,How did you walk through the door with him?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001226_speaker_32.wav,We did exchange some...,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001227_speaker_32.wav,We exchanged some heartfelt emails.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001228_speaker_32.wav,"And then eventually, we- we got on the phone and had what I was worried was gonna be a really awkward, really hard conversation, and was a totally wonderful conversation.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001229_speaker_32.wav,And I really w- w-...,speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001230_speaker_32.wav,"After- after that call, it is just, it- it...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001231_speaker_32.wav,I already feel so much closer to him.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001232_speaker_31.wav,"Um- You have your friend back, yeah.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001233_speaker_31.wav,"[laughs] You've mentioned you have a son, right?",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001234_speaker_31.wav,Have you talked about friendship with your son?,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001235_speaker_32.wav,"Uh, I- I think a lot about how to...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001236_speaker_32.wav,How do I raise a- a- a- a boy who won't be limited in the way that I was?,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001237_speaker_32.wav,"It- it's hard because I watch movies with him, like, I've been introducing him to some of my favorite movies from when I was a kid.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001238_speaker_32.wav,"Like, one of my favorite movies was Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, which- Great movie.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001239_speaker_32.wav,"It- it's a friend- it's a buddy comedy, and I showed that to my son because, like, part of what I love about that movie is that I think it models, like, what- what male friendship can be like.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001240_speaker_32.wav,"And I'm watching that movie with him, and there's this moment that was, like, really discordant, where, um, it appears that Ted has been murdered by- by the, one of these knights that's been chasing them.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001241_speaker_32.wav,"And Bill stumbles upon his body and he's like, ""Oh my God,"" like, ""Ted, what h- no, please, like, this can't be.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001242_speaker_32.wav,"And then, like, a second later, Ted emerges from a side door and is like, ""I'm still alive.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001243_speaker_32.wav,""" And then Bill is, like, relieved and overjoyed, and he's like, ""Oh my God,"" like, ""I thought you were dead and you're alive.",speaker_32,sad,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001244_speaker_32.wav,"You know, he, like, nestles his chin into, you know- Mm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001245_speaker_32.wav,"You know, it's a moment of love.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001246_speaker_32.wav,"And, you know, th- they hug for, like, a second, and then they, like, get startled and pull away.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001247_speaker_32.wav,"And they look at each other, and they say a word that I'm not gonna say 'cause it's an ugly word- Mm-hmm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001248_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, and I'm watching that with my son, and I, you know, I- I...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001249_speaker_32.wav,He was confused by that.,speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001250_speaker_32.wav,"Um, but it was like, like that's how I got to the point- Hmm ...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001251_speaker_32.wav,"Like, it's stuff like that which, you know, my son...",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001252_speaker_32.wav,"Like, I'm sure that my son got the kind of message that, like, you're not really supposed to get too close to your male friends.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001253_speaker_32.wav,"And, um, and it was right around that time that, you know, my daughter who's, who's a couple of years younger, uh, you know, was talking about how she wanted to marry her best friend all the time.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001254_speaker_32.wav,"And, and, and my son was like, ""Yeah, I wanna marry, you know, my best friend too.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001255_speaker_32.wav,""" And, and he, and he used to say, like, ""I love you-"" Mm-hmm . ..",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001256_speaker_32.wav,"And he used to always give, give a long hug and say, like, ""I love you.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001257_speaker_32.wav,"And I remember asking him, uh, ""Do you, you know, do you still wanna marry, uh, that friend?",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001258_speaker_32.wav,""" And then he's like, ""Nah.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001259_speaker_32.wav,"Like, 'cause I don't want him to think I'm sus.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001260_speaker_32.wav,"And I just was, like, so heartbroken by that, 'cause I felt like he should be able to say he loves his friend.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001261_speaker_32.wav,"I, I have said it, um, more and more.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001262_speaker_32.wav,"I used to not be able to say it at all, and now I do say it.",speaker_32,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001263_speaker_32.wav,"And I still kinda say it fast, I'm like, ""Love you, man.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001264_speaker_32.wav,"Love you,"" right at the end of the phone call, but I say it.",speaker_32,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001265_speaker_32.wav,"And it does feel good to say it, and I'm working on saying it a little bit slower.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001266_speaker_32.wav,"And I would love to be able to, like, look my friend in the eye and say, ""Hey, man, I love you.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001267_speaker_32.wav,"All right, well, well, you're giving me some confidence.",speaker_32,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001268_speaker_31.wav,"Sam Graham Felson, thank you so much.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001269_speaker_31.wav,"Like we said at the top, Modern Love is only in the Daily Feed for a few more weeks.",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001270_speaker_31.wav,"If you wanna continue hearing the show, and I really hope you do, we've got links to subscribe to Modern Love in the description.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001271_speaker_31.wav,And we've got so much more Modern Love there for you to hear.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001272_speaker_31.wav,"Not only do you get Modern Love episodes a few days earlier than on the Daily Feed, but if you're a New York Times subscriber, you'll also get the latest Modern Love essays read aloud each week.",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001273_speaker_31.wav,"Subscribers also get access to the full back catalog of Modern Love, and there is a ton there to explore.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001274_speaker_31.wav,I'm so excited for you to hear it.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001275_speaker_31.wav,Just click the link to your podcast app in this episode's description.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001276_speaker_31.wav,"The Modern Love team is Amy Pearl, Christina Josa, Davis Land, Elisa Gutierrez, Emily Lange, Jen Poillant, Lynn Levy, Riva Goldberg, and Sarah Curtis.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001277_speaker_31.wav,It was edited by Davis Land and Jen Poillant.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001278_speaker_31.wav,The Modern Love theme music is by Dan Powell.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001279_speaker_31.wav,"Original music in this episode by Dan Powell, Alicia Baítup, Diane Wong, Marian Lozano, and Roen Imisto.",speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001280_speaker_31.wav,"This episode was mixed by Daniel Ramirez, with studio support from Matty Maciello and Nick Pittman.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001281_speaker_31.wav,The Modern Love column is edited by Daniel Jones.,speaker_31,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001282_speaker_31.wav,Mia Lee is the editor of Modern Love projects.,speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001283_speaker_31.wav,"If you'd like to submit an essay or a tiny love story to the New York Times, we have the instructions in our show notes.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001284_speaker_31.wav,"I'm Anna Martin, thanks for listening.",speaker_31,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001285_speaker_34.wav,"[music] The Online Safety Act was passed two years ago, intended to protect children from harmful content.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001286_speaker_34.wav,"It's now being implemented, but it's under attack.",speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001287_speaker_34.wav,"The Trump administration's concerned about it, Nigel Farage says reform would repeal it altogether, and a government minister hit back, saying people who oppose the measures are on the side of predators like Jimmy Savile.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001288_speaker_34.wav,But campaigners argue it doesn't go far enough.,speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001289_speaker_34.wav,"Today we ask, how did the discussion around online safety get so politicized?",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001290_speaker_34.wav,"I'm Tamara Cohen, political correspondent at Sky News, and I've reported a lot on online safety, what children see online, and how it's affected them.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001291_speaker_35.wav,It is horrifying.,speaker_35,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001292_speaker_35.wav,"Harmful situation, uh, that led, uh, in a more than minimal way to the death of my daughter, uh, in 2017, nearly eight years ago, um, has got worse rather than better.",speaker_35,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001293_speaker_35.wav,"If you've strayed into the rabbit hole of harmful suicide, self-injury content, the platforms, in particular TikTok and Instagram, will recommend to you, algorithmically they'll recommend more and more of that content.",speaker_35,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001294_speaker_34.wav,"In a moment, we'll hear from the peer and free speech campaigner Toby Young, who argues that legitimate debate is being shut down by the Online Safety Act.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001295_speaker_34.wav,But first let's bring in the Children's Commissioner Rachel de Souza.,speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001296_speaker_34.wav,"Rachel, you took on this role four years ago.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001297_speaker_36.wav,"Now, I had been a head teacher for 20 years and a teacher for 30-odd years, and I had no idea what I was about to walk into.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001298_speaker_36.wav,"The first thing I did was survey, like, hundreds of thousands of children about the things that were of concern to them.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001299_speaker_36.wav,"Alongside that, we were seeing lots of self-harm material, hearing the terrible stories like of Molly Russell's death and children who were being driven to suicide with a key obvious culpability of the stuff that they were seeing online that we now know were so dark and deep.",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001300_speaker_36.wav,So I've made it my business to really dig deeply into this.,speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001301_speaker_36.wav,"I mean, the work I'm talking to you about today, um, is my second big survey into porn in the online world for children, and I think parents and families would be absolutely shocked and stunned.",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001302_speaker_34.wav,"Tell us a bit about this- this research, because it shows that things are actually worse than they were a couple of years ago.",speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001303_speaker_36.wav,"So we did the same survey two years ago, where we talked to 16 to 21-year-olds.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001304_speaker_36.wav,And it's getting worse.,speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001305_speaker_36.wav,A child's brain is not able to cope with this.,speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001306_speaker_36.wav,"If you're eight or nine, if you're 14 or 15 and seeing this stuff, you, you could be confused, you can be anxious, you can get addicted.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001307_speaker_34.wav,"You've met them, you've said to them, ""Why aren't you doing anything about this?",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001308_speaker_36.wav,"I'm afraid it is always a very unhappy, um, sad event really, because what they do is try and tell me how much they're doing, and then I have to challenge them and say, ""Absolute rubbish.",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001309_speaker_36.wav,"One of my ambassadors was talking to the X representative the other day saying, ""You are not, you are not X, you are triple X.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001310_speaker_36.wav,"They did nothing about their new responsibilities until just before the, you know, a few weeks ago.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001311_speaker_36.wav,"And actually, really literally, this stuff is poisoning our children's mind, and they- they've got no moral sense, and they jolly well need to step up and do something about it.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001312_speaker_34.wav,"Now, of course, a lot of people have heard of the Online Safety Act, which was passed two years ago.",speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001313_speaker_34.wav,"And an important part of it came in at the end of July, which is the Children's Code.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001314_speaker_34.wav,Do you doubt that is the case?,speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001315_speaker_36.wav,"Uh, look, I'm always glass half full.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001316_speaker_36.wav,"I'm hopeful and I'm really backing Ofcom to use their powers, the government regulator, to use their powers to hold tech companies particularly to account to make sure things do get better.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001317_speaker_36.wav,The number one concern I get from parents is about what kids are seeing online.,speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001318_speaker_36.wav,They are beyond despair in how this is affecting their children.,speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001319_speaker_36.wav,"And yes, I am skeptical, because I've worked with these companies for years.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001320_speaker_36.wav,"If they are out of line, I would like to see the regulator go after them and give them their biggest fines, and that's what will stop things happening.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001321_speaker_34.wav,"But there is another side to this, where some people feel that age verification goes too far.",speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001322_speaker_34.wav,""" And they're worried that there are free speech concerns there.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001323_speaker_36.wav,We need government and Ofcom and others to give confidence about age verification.,speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001324_speaker_36.wav,"Because, honestly, it is absolutely secure.",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001325_speaker_36.wav,"I don't think there is any adult in any political party, of any political persuasion, with any view about freedom and liberty, who would say six-year-olds should see strangulation and coercive sex.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001326_speaker_36.wav,"The Online Safety Act is a great, big, messy bill.",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001327_speaker_34.wav,"Now, you mentioned VPNs, which I'll just explain are private networks, and they basically obscure the user's location and allow people to get around the restrictions.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001328_speaker_34.wav,And we have seen in the last couple of weeks a big spike in the number of people getting those.,speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001329_speaker_34.wav,Are you worried that that could take children and young people to unregulated places where we can't see what they're seeing?,speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001330_speaker_36.wav,"There is totally legitimate and positive reasons for using a VPN, so I don't want to demonize VPNs.",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001331_speaker_36.wav,But VPNs are a loophole in the Online Safety Act.,speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001332_speaker_36.wav,"Bring VPNs in, that would be good too.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001333_speaker_36.wav,"I just worry, um, that what I've seen of the social media companies is too little, too late, and we need to be tough with them about children.",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001334_speaker_36.wav,"If X won't get pornography off its site, then it has to not have children on its site.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001335_speaker_34.wav,"Now, Rachel, while we're talking about all the horrifying things that children see online, you've also got this political row going on where you've got Reform, who are currently leading the opinion polls, saying, ""We'd get rid of the Online Safety Act,"" at the time that other people are saying it doesn't go far enough.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001336_speaker_34.wav,"Um, you've got a government minister responding to that by saying, ""Anyone who wants- thinks like that is on the side of predators like Jimmy Savile.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001337_speaker_34.wav,""" How do you feel about- about this row and where we are?",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001338_speaker_36.wav,"Right, I think all of them need to grow up.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001339_speaker_36.wav,"They need to collaborate, grow up, work together, and keep the children safe.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001340_speaker_36.wav,"The adults of this country, the parents of this country expect nothing less.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001341_speaker_36.wav,"When I talk to 16 to 21-year-olds and I say to them, ""Would you allow your child or your younger sister or brother to have the kind of free access to this stuff that your generation did?",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001342_speaker_34.wav,"Before we hear more from Rachel, let's put that point to the free speech campaigner, Toby Young.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001343_speaker_37.wav,"Uh, well, I haven't been impressed, um, by the shrill, sensationalist tone of the government when defending the Online Safety Act.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001344_speaker_37.wav,"It's surely possible to have a grownup conversation about how we can protect children from pornography, from websites advocating suicide and self-harm without encroaching on the freedom of speech of adults, without throwing around accusations of being sympathetic to pedophiles and sexual predators.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001345_speaker_37.wav,"If the government, um, want this to work and want- and want it to command public support, um, then responding, I think, to legitimate concerns about over removal, um, uh, is important.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001346_speaker_37.wav,And not to dismiss those expressing those concerns as being on the side of Jimmy Savile.,speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001347_speaker_34.wav,"Rachel de Souza has said the Online Safety Act is, in her view, not perfect, but that having got this far, it's absolutely worth the risks in order to protect children as young as six from seeing harmful content.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001348_speaker_34.wav,Don't you think a lot of parents will agree with her?,speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001349_speaker_37.wav,I don't know.,speaker_37,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001350_speaker_37.wav,"But, I mean, I don't think anyone would think that was, um, an illegitimate interference in free speech.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001351_speaker_37.wav,"But again, I'm slightly concerned that too great an onus is placed on the regulator, on Ofcom, to protect children from harmful content.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001352_speaker_37.wav,"I- it's a bit like blaming- blaming the school when a child comes into the school, age five, and can't change its nappy.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001353_speaker_37.wav,And schools are expected to take on all sorts of responsibilities that traditionally have belonged to parents.,speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001354_speaker_37.wav,"And, you know, if six-year-olds are accessing pornography or extremely violent content, then, okay, Ofcom should do what it can to prevent that.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001355_speaker_37.wav,"But at the same time, don't parents have a responsibility to prevent their children from accessing that kind of content as well?",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001356_speaker_34.wav,And the YouGov polling found that most people supported age verification.,speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001357_speaker_34.wav,"Now, obviously, that was asking the question before it's actually k- come in, but do you think free speech campaigners like yourself will win the argument?",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001358_speaker_34.wav,"You know, w- will you be able to get a lot of people concerned about this, these implications?",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001359_speaker_37.wav,"Well, I think the argument is, um, being won for us by the over removal of content, particularly by social media companies.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001360_speaker_37.wav,"I think lots of people are getting increasingly frustrated that they can't access content of democratic importance, content that they should be able to see, uh, if they're gonna make informed choices at the ballot box in four years' time, um, unless they can verify their age.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001361_speaker_37.wav,"One of the reasons I think for the over removal that's been taking place since July 25th when this, um, age-gating responsibility was imposed on online providers is that originally there were a couple of protections built into the Online Safety Act.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001362_speaker_37.wav,"So category one providers, those providers with most onerous safety duties also had some free speech duties.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001363_speaker_37.wav,"Uh, they were supposed to be careful before removing content of democratic importance and journalistic content.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001364_speaker_37.wav,"But, um, those duties, for a variety of reasons, haven't kicked in.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001365_speaker_34.wav,"Uh, what do you think would address these concerns about news content being, uh, age-gated?",speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001366_speaker_37.wav,"Well, I think, um, one quick fix would be to make sure that the free speech protections, the safeguards built into the act, are activated.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001367_speaker_37.wav,"Um, I think that might, um, curb some of the over removal.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001368_speaker_37.wav,"I think, uh, greater clarity from Ofcom to say, ""We're not going to, uh, engage in endless mission creep and end up insisting that social media companies have to protect adults from supposedly legal but harmful content.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001369_speaker_37.wav,"Ultimately, I would like to see it repealed.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001370_speaker_37.wav,"I think, uh, a better solution would be to simply, uh, ban under 16-year-olds from having, um, smartphones.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001371_speaker_37.wav,"Uh, they can access, um, virtual private networks.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001372_speaker_37.wav,"Uh, they can fake IDs so they can, uh, fool a social media company into believing they're 18.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001373_speaker_34.wav,"The Reform Party who, of course, um, leading the opinion polls, are talking about repealing the Online Safety Act.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001374_speaker_34.wav,"Obviously, it's quite a few steps forward, but do you think that any...",speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001375_speaker_37.wav,"Well, it's always hard to know, um, what parties will do when they get into office.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001376_speaker_37.wav,There are obviously political risks in repealing the Online Safety Act.,speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001377_speaker_37.wav,"I think it's more likely that a Conservative or Reform government, um, would reform it than repeal it altogether.",speaker_37,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001378_speaker_34.wav,"Thanks, Toby.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001379_speaker_34.wav,"And I just want to finally ask you, uh, Rachel, just thinking about how we grapple with this issue.",speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001380_speaker_34.wav,"It feels to me, having covered this, that some people think this is like smoking, that we'll one day look back and think, ""What were we doing allowing it to happen everywhere?",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001381_speaker_34.wav,""" And some people think we will have to just, uh, help children to navigate the dangerous things online themselves as they get older.",speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001382_speaker_34.wav,"What do you think about, w- about this as how we approach it?",speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001383_speaker_36.wav,"Yeah, one of the difficult things about this is just how complex it is.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001384_speaker_36.wav,"The online world is evolving, and the trouble is that we want children to be able to experience the really good things and positive things, have been a digital native, and been online.",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001385_speaker_36.wav,"Um, and so it's really, really difficult to sort of separate out the issues.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001386_speaker_36.wav,Look at porn addiction.,speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001387_speaker_36.wav,We exposed generations of children to massive danger.,speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001388_speaker_36.wav,""" Now we have a chance.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001389_speaker_36.wav,"It sh- it should be absolute priority in the curriculum, so we need schools to play their part, and parents.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001390_speaker_36.wav,"But the parents, I have to say, are at their wits' end.",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001391_speaker_36.wav,"So I, I guess, my positive on this one would be when I talk to 16 to 21-year-olds and said, ""What would you tell your par- You know, what would you wish your parents had known when you were growing up?",speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001392_speaker_36.wav,""" They said, ""Don't let us take them to bed at night.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001393_speaker_36.wav,Manage the amount of time we're on them.,speaker_36,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001394_speaker_36.wav,"And then most importantly, and this is the hardest bit, talk to us about what we see there.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001395_speaker_36.wav,"Don't just have that one talk where you talk to us about, ""This is what sex is,"" or whatever, and you run out the room as quickly as possible.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001396_speaker_36.wav,Talk properly about the things your child is seeing in an age-appropriate way.,speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001397_speaker_36.wav,"It's really hard, but actually, that is the best way to inoculate and support your child.",speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001398_speaker_36.wav,But that should be supported by a strong government response.,speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001399_speaker_36.wav,And I think sometimes government are afraid to say these things about family life.,speaker_36,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001400_speaker_36.wav,"So we talk about, you know, tech companies and [music] But actually, we need to be supporting parents to protect the children, as well as having good robust legislation because no eight-year-old should see violent coercive strangulation and sex when they're just picking up...",speaker_36,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001401_speaker_34.wav,There's a lot more on this story on the Sky News app and website.,speaker_34,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001402_speaker_34.wav,The Daily will be back tomorrow.,speaker_34,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001403_speaker_38.wav,So who's working to fight it?,speaker_38,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001404_speaker_39.wav,"Since 2020, we've provided a little over 3.",speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001405_speaker_39.wav,And we've never charged any of our recipients to date.,speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001406_speaker_39.wav,Our produce and our quality is top-notch.,speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001407_speaker_39.wav,The average Black-led nonprofit never makes it to a million in revenue.,speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001408_speaker_39.wav,We did it in 18 months.,speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001409_speaker_38.wav,Find out how he did it in our latest Fellows Friday episode on TED Talks Daily.,speaker_38,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001410_speaker_38.wav,Don't miss these inspiring conversations only on TED Talks Daily.,speaker_38,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001411_speaker_40.wav,"Overall, it'll probably look a lot like our world today, just more sustainable. One of",speaker_40,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001412_speaker_40.wav,"those less flashy, but incredibly important things tech can do is to help us forecast the future and answer tough questions, much like the one we're starting with today.",speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001413_speaker_40.wav,Where on Earth are all eight billion of us going to live?,speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001414_speaker_40.wav,"These days, we hear a lot about coastal cities like Miami that could be underwater by the end of the century, or about islands like the Maldives that could get washed off the map altogether.",speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001415_speaker_40.wav,"But while there's a lot of talk about the places people will need to leave, we don't talk so much about where people will go.",speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001416_speaker_40.wav,"Fortunately, Parag Khanna is on the case.",speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001417_speaker_40.wav,"He's the founder and CEO of Climate Alpha, a company that uses AI to forecast how climate change will affect different parts of the world.",speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001418_speaker_40.wav,"His goal is to figure out where people will live in the future and how we can prepare for a new era of climate migration, considering both the people seeking new homes and the nations receiving them.",speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001419_speaker_40.wav,This virtual talk was part of an exclusive event for TED members.,speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001420_speaker_40.wav,"It was hosted by TED Current Affairs curator, Whitney Pennington Rodgers.",speaker_40,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001421_speaker_39.wav,"Since 2020, we've provided a little over 3.",speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001422_speaker_39.wav,Our produce and our quality is top notch.,speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001423_speaker_38.wav,Dion Dawson put himself into the CEO seat to make change in his community.,speaker_38,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001424_speaker_39.wav,The average Black-led nonprofit never makes it to a million in revenue.,speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001425_speaker_39.wav,We did it in 18 months.,speaker_39,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001426_speaker_38.wav,Find out how he did it in our latest Fellows Friday episode on TED Talks Daily.,speaker_38,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001427_speaker_38.wav,Don't miss these inspiring conversations only on TED Talks Daily.,speaker_38,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001428_speaker_41.wav,"[instrumental music] From the standpoint of human geography, why we live where we live in the world, it's actually driven by a fairly, you know, categorically organized set of variables.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001429_speaker_41.wav,"Demographic imbalances, the gap between young and old.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001430_speaker_41.wav,"Political upheaval, civil wars, international conflicts such as we're witnessing right now.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001431_speaker_41.wav,"Economic dislocation, like financial crises.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001432_speaker_41.wav,"Technological disruption, that can be AI and automation forcing you away from the place where you had a stable job.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001433_speaker_41.wav,"You can live anywhere, do this call, do your job from anywhere.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001434_speaker_41.wav,"And of course, climate change, which is actually the original driver of where we live, and it's coming back.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001435_speaker_41.wav,"It was the driver of where humans have settled for hundreds of thousands of years, and now it's changing.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001436_speaker_41.wav,"And if you take all of these together and multiply it by the connectivity, all of the infrastructure that we have built to enable human mobility, you get a world in which we're gonna use that capacity for mobility, and we're going to have mass migrations, potentially on a scale we've never seen before.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001437_speaker_41.wav,"Again, note the mismatch.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001438_speaker_41.wav,"We need to think about how young people can cope with climate, with geopolitics, with economic pressure and live in places where they can still produce a sizable next generation of people.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001439_speaker_41.wav,"Um, and that's, that's gonna actually lead to a very steep population crash in many ways.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001440_speaker_41.wav,"So this got me thinking about how young people think, and this forms a big part of the argument of the Move book because when we, and I don't mean we as in every one of you, but when people who are say, my age or older, Gen X or you know, Baby Boomers, uh, we, we speak very confidently in this, in this sort of, uh, you know, uh, plural pronoun, you know, as if our views represent the views of people in the world.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001441_speaker_41.wav,Young people in cities who don't have children who are struggling.,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001442_speaker_41.wav,It's the present and the future of humanity.,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001443_speaker_41.wav,And I'm interested in the things that we can do to make life better for those people because they are the present and the future of our species population.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001444_speaker_41.wav,And they do think very differently from previous generations.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001445_speaker_41.wav,"But if people don't own homes and don't have children, then they are by definition quite mobile, especially if they're not even loyal to their home country for the sake of it.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001446_speaker_41.wav,And so where will young people go is a very important question that I'm trying to answer.,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001447_speaker_41.wav,"Places that offer opportunity, work, w- uh, uh, particularly professional opportunities, educational opportunities, uh, a decent quality of life, uh, political stability, climate stability, the, the basic things that you would expect.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001448_speaker_41.wav,"And countries, I believe, are gonna be engaged in a war for young talent, to attract those young people as they are aging.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001449_speaker_41.wav,"So there is a roadmap for us to untangle ourselves from this dilemma of geopolitical fragmentation, a climate-stressed world, a declining population, youth that are insecure.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001450_speaker_41.wav,What are we supposed to do?,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001451_speaker_41.wav,And the truth is that all of these are visible today.,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001452_speaker_41.wav,We are in a world where regions like Europe act like fortresses.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001453_speaker_41.wav,"We live in a world that's, that's medieval, a world that is conflictual, in which people are thrust into survival mode of hunter-gatherer lifestyles when there's, when there's a drought or when there's a flood, or they're fleeing civil war and conflict and they're trying to cross borders like the US-Mexico border, trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea, where countries are engaged in land grabs and water wars to acquire resources.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001454_speaker_41.wav,"But we also live in a world where there are countries like Canada, which is opening itself up, that's bringing in hundreds of thousands, about 400,000 new migrants every single year, 1% of its population.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001455_speaker_41.wav,It's incumbent on us to shape the direction that the world goes in or that the regions that we live in go in in the future.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001456_speaker_41.wav,"And for me, that rests on two principles or, or two things that you can do.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001457_speaker_41.wav,"You are either moving people to places where there are resources that are abundant so they can survive, or you're moving technologies to people to the places where they need them.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001458_speaker_41.wav,You're doing one of those two things.,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001459_speaker_41.wav,The second is I obviously advocate for mobility as a human right.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001460_speaker_41.wav,"We obviously have to think beyond sovereignty, therefore to stewardship of the global commons.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001461_speaker_41.wav,"We have to pre-design these habitats, uh, of the future.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001462_speaker_41.wav,"Uh, which is to say thinking about allowing people to be perpetually mobile as they need to be in response to geopolitics, in response to climate change, but do so in a way that doesn't trample upon, uh, the environment.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001463_speaker_42.wav,"TED, um, member Kim has a, a question.",speaker_42,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001464_speaker_42.wav,How do we shift the attitude towards welcoming immigrants here in the US?,speaker_42,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001465_speaker_41.wav,"It is a universally relevant question, especially again, in the, in the developed mature Western economies and societies that have had a lot of friction and a lot of backlash and caution about large-scale immigration, at least in the last, say, 10, 15 years.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001466_speaker_41.wav,"Uh, and that's the US, Canada, you know, Western European countries, Japan.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001467_speaker_41.wav,All of them are changing to some degree.,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001468_speaker_41.wav,"But the US, you know, as, as bureaucratic as it is, as contentious as it is, is, uh, and, and, and the fact that during the Trump years, immigration began to decline, and then because of COVID, you know, it became even harder.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001469_speaker_41.wav,But let me tell you something very special about America.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001470_speaker_41.wav,"This year, according to a congressional delegation that I just, uh, hosted in, in Singapore, the US will probably have one million new migrants this year, one million.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001471_speaker_41.wav,"Now, I want to be absolutely clear, no country on Earth goes from 200,000 to one million, uh, overnight by design.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001472_speaker_41.wav,"And that's, that's America, right?",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001473_speaker_41.wav,So everything that's not gone well in immigration can be fixed and positively overcompensated by the kinds of reforms that are underway today.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001474_speaker_41.wav,"H-1B reforms, refugee reforms, um, skilled migration reforms, digitizing immigration, carrying over certain, uh, you know, frozen quotas from the past.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001475_speaker_41.wav,Should it have happened years ago?,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001476_speaker_41.wav,"Should immigration policy be done in a way in which we focus on the, the shortages in our labor force, which are so many?",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001477_speaker_41.wav,We're hurting our own economy by having such a slow immigration process.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001478_speaker_41.wav,I remember becoming a citizen.,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001479_speaker_41.wav,"Um, but, but i- these things can be fixed and no one can fix it like America can.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001480_speaker_41.wav,"More are coming now from Ukraine, and they've managed their politics, um......",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001481_speaker_41.wav,"So Canada, the US, Germany, the UK, despite Brexit, it's easier to move to the UK today than during Brexit.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001482_speaker_41.wav,"Because they, again, have had massive shortages in nursing, in truck drivers, you name it.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001483_speaker_41.wav,"So the- the- there's just two kinds of countries in the world, those that have realized they need more migrants and those that haven't, right?",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001484_speaker_42.wav,"TED member Heidi, um, Heidi has a question, uh, that asks, ""We've seen that governments in countries veer nationalistic and xenophobic when there are a flood of immigrants.",speaker_42,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001485_speaker_41.wav,""" For one thing, you know, I don't, I don't posit that immigration itself as in let the people in is some kind of panacea.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001486_speaker_41.wav,Culture is malleable.,speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001487_speaker_41.wav,"So even in a place that we think of as very culturally insular, right, even there you've got a large-scale migration.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001488_speaker_41.wav,"So there is zero, zero truth to the statement that the world is governed by right-wing, xenophobic populists that are anti-immigrant.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001489_speaker_41.wav,That's the way they have been run for 75 years.,speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001490_speaker_41.wav,"If that weren't true, we wouldn't be having this conversation because n- you know, all of us who are migrants wouldn't have migrated.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001491_speaker_42.wav,"There are some people who may push back on that, right, and say that, ""Well, we still see struggles with inequality and, and that, um, you know, things are not fair and great for people who do come to, to those countries.",speaker_42,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001492_speaker_42.wav,""" Um, and I wonder if, if there are specific things that you think, uh, could be done better, even in those spaces, but, uh, that are really success stories that I think nations that are looking to invite people in, um, can really take on",speaker_42,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001493_speaker_41.wav,"There are really good lessons learned, and this is not pie-in-the-sky thinking.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001494_speaker_41.wav,"And Germany is making this clear as well in a much larger country which is, you know, you definitely have to learn German.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001495_speaker_41.wav,"Um, and, and I think that's actually pretty important.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001496_speaker_41.wav,"I don't seek to suppress people's original, you know, uh, identities and their languages, but it is a fact that if you actually want to not be a burden on your host society but actually be a contributor and be welcomed by, liked by, respected by all segments of the society that is your new home, you will do a much better job of it if you learn the language.",speaker_41,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001497_speaker_41.wav,"So jobs, skills, education, language, um, public housing.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001498_speaker_41.wav,"Uh, you know, you've got universal public housing, and if we did more around affordable housing, that would allow, that would diminish the inequality.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001499_speaker_41.wav,"So, well, we can fix that, right?",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001500_speaker_41.wav,"It's good news that there's really a pretty clear roadmap on how to do this and how to make people feel welcome and, uh, and how to have everyone again be better off.",speaker_41,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001501_speaker_40.wav,Jimmy Gutierrez is our story editor.,speaker_40,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001502_speaker_40.wav,Fact-checking by Julia Dickerson.,speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001503_speaker_40.wav,Special thanks to Anna Phelan and Rithu Jagannath.,speaker_40,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001504_speaker_40.wav,"Next week, we're heading to the lab to hear how meat grown from cells could be the future of food.",speaker_40,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001505_speaker_43.wav,Diners in Singapore are eating chicken nuggets made from a chicken who was never killed.,speaker_43,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001506_speaker_43.wav,How is this possible?,speaker_43,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001507_speaker_43.wav,Through the power of what I call cellular agriculture.,speaker_43,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001508_speaker_40.wav,That's in the next episode of TED Climate. [music],speaker_40,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001509_speaker_44.wav,"This four-part miniseries explores the global narrative surrounding the climate crisis, the role of faith in shaping political and societal responses to the emergency, and the ways that these new narratives impact political approaches to a global crisis.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001510_speaker_44.wav,"And in this episode, the fourth and final of the series, I speak with two inspiring individuals in the climate movement about their work promoting voices often left unheard in climate discussions, Shomy Choudhury and Sunshine Dunson-Moore.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001511_speaker_44.wav,"Rather than s- piecing together different insights from a wide range of interviews, you'll hear my full conversation with Shomy and Sunshine about their work in climate activism, their motivations for getting involved in the space, and how their faith inspires their work.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001512_speaker_44.wav,"This is episode four, Promoting Inclusion and New Voices in the Climate Movement.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001513_speaker_44.wav,"It is truly a delight to be joined by, uh, two colleagues in the...",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001514_speaker_44.wav,"How have we, uh, been viewing this issue and the environmental challenges as a matter of peace and security?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001515_speaker_44.wav,"How are perceptions of that changing in academia, uh, on the international level, on the local level?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001516_speaker_44.wav,"And how are new leaders emerging, and where are they, uh, emerging from, have all been themes that we've been exploring throughout the course of the last couple of episodes.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001517_speaker_44.wav,"Uh, I've met both of these individuals in international spaces, where we've been discussing the climate crisis and how our various perceptions of the crisis and our various forms of spirituality and forms of knowing have shaped our own, uh, relations to this issue and our responses to it.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001518_speaker_44.wav,"So without further ado, I'm delighted to be joined, joined by Ɛsxwəqʷeɬ, uh, Sunshine D- Dunston-Moore, who works as junior policy analyst, uh, with the Assembly of First Nations, um, who's really committed to empowering BIPOC youth to take up space within colonial structures and who advocates, uh, for an intersectional and anti-colonial approach to policy development, education, and discourse, which I think fits",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001519_speaker_44.wav,"Um, and my second guest is Shomy Choudhury, who is a award-winning water sanitation and hygiene activist from Bangladesh, but who has done tremendous work, uh, in London over the past couple of years, including founding an organization Awareness 360.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001520_speaker_44.wav,"It is absolutely a privilege to be speaking with you today, um, about your journeys, about your relationship to the climate space, how you've, uh, found yourself leading in the climate space, and the ways that you see that leadership, um, going forward.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001521_speaker_45.wav,Thank you for having me.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001522_speaker_46.wav,Thank you so much for having me as well.,speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001523_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, really looking forward to this, uh, discussion with you both.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001524_speaker_44.wav,My first question has to do with getting into the space.,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001525_speaker_44.wav,Why did you feel like it was important to join the climate movement?,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001526_speaker_44.wav,What was it that led you to the space?,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001527_speaker_44.wav,And how have you found your journey as a leader within the climate space?,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001528_speaker_45.wav,"I have been, like, active in the climate movement and climate activism since I was in high school.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001529_speaker_45.wav,"Um, I'm from Camishli, also known as Lytton, British Columbia.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001530_speaker_45.wav,"Uh, Lytton is about four hours north of Vancouver.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001531_speaker_45.wav,"Um, it was a very not known community there for the longest time.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001532_speaker_45.wav,"Our high school had like 90 students, so I was organizing small marches of like 30 people to walk down our one street, um, our one-street community, and that kind of led into my young professional life.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001533_speaker_45.wav,"Um, the plan was to always go to law school and kind of be able to defend land defenders, um, as they're, like, being brought to criminal justice in an unjust way.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001534_speaker_45.wav,"Um, but of course COVID kinda got into...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001535_speaker_45.wav,"kind of ruined that plan, and I am very one that goes with the flow, wh- what happens organically.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001536_speaker_45.wav,And so I ended up just finding policy.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001537_speaker_45.wav,"Um, a bunch of organizations were holding hackathons, uh, to learn a bit more about policy, and there I kind of found, like, ""Oh wow, this is something I never expected to do, never thought about it.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001538_speaker_45.wav,""" And on June 30th, 2021, um, a wildfire, um, burnt down 90% of the community.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001539_speaker_45.wav,"It was a part of the heat dome that hit Southern BC, um, and broke several heat records in Canada, and I believe globally as well, reaching plus 50 degrees Celsius.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001540_speaker_45.wav,"Luckily, my, my home was okay.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001541_speaker_45.wav,My home was not burned down.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001542_speaker_45.wav,"Um, I did watch the wildfire burn the community though from across the Fraser River.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001543_speaker_45.wav,"It's those climate moments where you don't fully expect to experience them, and when they...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001544_speaker_45.wav,"when it does, it's just, like, with you kind of forever.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001545_speaker_45.wav,I like to say that I live pre-fire and post-fire now 'cause they're two completely different Sunshines [laughs] .,speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001546_speaker_45.wav,I'm still trying to see myself as a leader.,speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001547_speaker_45.wav,"Um, as a young person, I, as like a young person, I like the opportunities to keep learning, to keep making mistakes and to have that opportunity to grow.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001548_speaker_45.wav,"And I just fear once you're deemed a leader that, that you're not able to make those mistakes anymore.",speaker_45,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001549_speaker_45.wav,"Um, but I also know it's an opportunity and a privilege to be seen with influence that not a lot of people have that.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001550_speaker_45.wav,"And so I try to do my best with it as, as I can.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001551_speaker_45.wav,"And as a young woman and as a young indigenous woman, I don't see a lot of young women or indigenous women in the technical policy sector, um, whether that be national or international.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001552_speaker_45.wav,"Um, and 'cause it's a very male dominated field, and my responsibility, how I see it is, I have such a...",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001553_speaker_45.wav,"I- I don't want to say unique per se, but I guess a broader sense of what climate policy can be, um, having that indigenous lens, um, bringing in an anti-colonial and intersectional lens as well that really is just grounded in human rights.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001554_speaker_45.wav,"Um, so I think that's just like really the little bit of what I have to bring, and what, what I want to bring. Mm-hmm.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001555_speaker_44.wav,"So there's that, there's, there's the vulnerability and the, the transparency of that leadership, which, which in some ways enables you to contribute to these spaces in powerful ways, but then also emerge as a leader, um, for others.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001556_speaker_44.wav,"I, I really love what you said about that, that emotional experience, where it comes from is, is often quite, uh, personal, that it comes from, from lived experiences.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001557_speaker_44.wav,"Shomi, you, you founded an organization, you've been a leading advocate for, for WASH.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001558_speaker_44.wav,"How did you come into this space, and how have you, uh, experienced your journey becoming a leader within that world?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001559_speaker_46.wav,"Thank you, Christian.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001560_speaker_46.wav,Very inspirational.,speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001561_speaker_46.wav,"Um, I think similar to Sunshine, my story of activism is also, uh, quite similar in the sense that, um, I also never planned to be a WASH activist.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001562_speaker_46.wav,"It was quite accidental so to speak [laughs] , um, and then really rela- a relatable point in terms of, uh, how it's important to be vulnerable in these spaces, um, so that people can relate to us better.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001563_speaker_46.wav,"Um, so just to go back 10 years ago, uh, when I emerged as a WASH activist, it's basically a personal story.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001564_speaker_46.wav,"And, um, after she died, I was exposed to the world of clean water and sanitation and how, um, uh, the harsh reality of the WASH sector basically, and how so many people around the world, um, are suffering from and dying from preventable diseases like diarrhea, cholera, et cetera, which are strongly linked to access to clean water and sanitation.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001565_speaker_46.wav,"And it was, it was, it's the biggest shock, uh, of my life obviously, and I was devastated.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001566_speaker_46.wav,"But, uh, I simply couldn't fathom the fact that I lost her from, from a disease like diarrhea, and I wanted to do something about it.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001567_speaker_46.wav,"So four days after my mother passed away, I did my first water and sanitation talk at a sanitation worker's community.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001568_speaker_46.wav,"And what I realized, i- it was obviously very difficult for me to, you know, uh, go up to people, like, uh, hold a microphone and speak to people about my experience and the emo- the pain is so raw at the time, so new, and I'm still processing my grief and so on.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001569_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, but at the same time, it was also a moment of realizing the incredible power of storytelling, and how people can connect with one another through stories so much more than through facts and numbers.",speaker_46,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001570_speaker_46.wav,"And in that moment, I think I found my true calling and I, I wanted to, you know, champion this cause of clean water and sanitation and I wanted to share my story, be vulnerable with people so that people take this issue more seriously.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001571_speaker_46.wav,"Um, so since then, my WASH advocacy basically started.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001572_speaker_46.wav,"Now on the other, uh, hand, climate action has been deeply personal because, you know, growing up in Bangladesh, o- one of the most climate vulnerable countries in the world, I've seen firsthand how environmental disasters are not just abstract global issues.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001573_speaker_46.wav,"In fact, uh, when I, um, grew up, like our house used to be flooded, um, very frequently.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001574_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, but at the time, I didn't realize, I didn't, I couldn't connect to all these terms and, and, and issues.",speaker_46,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001575_speaker_46.wav,It's actually even worse now.,speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001576_speaker_46.wav,"Um, so I came into the climate space through my WASH advocacy because I quickly realized that clean water access, disease prevention, sanitation, these are all deeply interconnected with climate change.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001577_speaker_46.wav,"Like, uh, you know, droughts dry up water sources.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001578_speaker_46.wav,"And, like, rising temperatures increase the spread of, uh, waterborne diseases.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001579_speaker_46.wav,So we simply cannot work on public health without addressing climate resilience.,speaker_46,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001580_speaker_46.wav,"So my journey into the climate movement has been shaped by seeing these connections and recogniz- right, and recognizing that, um, solutions cannot be, uh, cannot be siloed.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001581_speaker_44.wav,"The intersectionality of both of your stories when it comes to how your accidental journeys, as you have put them, into the climate space, have been products of both, personal experiences but also a need to take action on something that you feel is important, that you've experienced is important, i- is quite inspiring.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001582_speaker_44.wav,And can we...,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001583_speaker_44.wav,"I wonder if we can unpack that a little bit, specifically with reference to the stories that you, uh, mentioned, Shomy, um, explicitly in the stories that you've also mentioned, Sunshine, but perhaps less explicitly as a method of storytelling.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001584_speaker_44.wav,"What are the stories, beyond just your own personal experiences, that have enabled you and motivated you to go into this space?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001585_speaker_44.wav,"But, but what is it that...",speaker_44,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001586_speaker_44.wav,"What are those stories for you that have, uh, led you into this, this area and, and enabled you to contribute to it? Yeah.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001587_speaker_46.wav,"I, I think beyond my stories, so after I started my WASH advocacy, I met, I met my, uh, now best friend.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001588_speaker_46.wav,"He's also, uh, um, a very, um, uh, strong climate justice advocate, um, from Bangladesh.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001589_speaker_46.wav,"And we both, uh...",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001590_speaker_46.wav,"Um, at the time, we were based in Bangladesh, young people to, uh, gain transferrable skills, um, and, and, uh, and a community, um, where they can share each other's, um, best practices, solidarity, ideas and so on.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001591_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, and using storytelling as a tool through that platform to advocate for change, for, to advocate for causes that they, they care about.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001592_speaker_46.wav,"Um, and when it comes to the topic of, uh, leadership, I, leadership isn't, isn't about a, a, a title or a recognition.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001593_speaker_46.wav,"And that's what myself and Ridgeview, we, we, we figured, that we wanted to create a platform and we wanted to, um, wanted, uh, young people to utilize that platform to exercise their passion to create change.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001594_speaker_46.wav,"Um, and that's how Awareness 360 started.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001595_speaker_46.wav,"Now, within Awareness 360, we've, we've built a global movement that, that empowers young people.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001596_speaker_46.wav,"And what started from, uh, you know, just by the two of us in Bangladesh, now there are hundreds and thousands of stories.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001597_speaker_46.wav,"We have worked with, uh, the Rohingya refugees, um, with different climate vulnerable groups and, and communities, like extremely last mile, mostly left behind.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001598_speaker_46.wav,"And when we, when we directly work with them and we hear their stories of how, for example, you know, uh, access to, let's say water, we see that, um, gender inequality is deeply embedded in this space as well, and how it's, if there is a climate crisis, if there's a natural disaster or whatever it is, it's usually the women and the girls of that community who would be, uh, who would",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001599_speaker_44.wav,"I, I, I'm curious, what are the nature of those stories?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001600_speaker_44.wav,"I'm wondering, first of all, could you explain a bit more about what that is?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001601_speaker_44.wav,"And second of all, explain maybe and unpack some of the stories that are shaping those approaches which benefit, uh, the, the approach that we-...",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001602_speaker_45.wav,So pan-indigenizing is a very serious issue that not as...,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001603_speaker_45.wav,it's kind of across all sectors.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001604_speaker_45.wav,"It's where we see, um, like consultation or engagement done with just like one small group of indigenous people.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001605_speaker_45.wav,"Here in Canada, it's primarily just First Nations, and then it's just that's taken as word.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001606_speaker_45.wav,"Um, in Canada we have, from a Government of Canada approach, we have over 600 distinct nations, First Nations.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001607_speaker_45.wav,"We have the Metis people, they have their own structural system, and then we also have Inuit.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001608_speaker_45.wav,"And when pan-indigenizing becomes dangerous is when policies and legislation are created and it's just consultation with one group, uh, primarily small group, and then it's meant to fit every single community, which is not sustainable, which can cause further harm.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001609_speaker_45.wav,"It upholds colonial standards, and is just...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001610_speaker_45.wav,"Um, and then coming from a climate perspective and storytelling, um, I mean, as indigenous people, our values, our teachings, uh, we as people have grown up in stories.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001611_speaker_45.wav,"Um, I kinda had mentioned that, uh, when we, we had to kind of relearn how to fish, we have to adapt with the world.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001612_speaker_45.wav,"It's because my, my grandpa, who is 80-something years old, uh, he taught my mom how to fish, who taught me how to fish.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001613_speaker_45.wav,But what they had learned from their grandparents and great-grandparents is not applicable now.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001614_speaker_45.wav,"Um, and they had to learn to adapt, but then they also know that the stories that they tell from our ancestors are important for us to learn.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001615_speaker_45.wav,"And it's scary to think that there might come a time where if I end up having children or, like, grandchildren, the stories that I tell them from my time or the ones that were passed down to me, they won't understand at all.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001616_speaker_45.wav,"Because the life, um, on, of the land that they'll be living on does not look like what it does now, just like how what I'm living on does not look anything like what my grandparents lived on.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001617_speaker_45.wav,And that is...,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001618_speaker_45.wav,"For Lytton it's, it is a lot.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001619_speaker_45.wav,"We've had a bunch of damage done by wildfires and flooding, but for other nations here in Canada, specifically in the north and more, um, remote communities, it's even a lot more detrimental, um, because of, uh, oil, oil drilling, and because of, um, glacier...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001620_speaker_45.wav,"I'm mixing up all my terms, but, like, glacier melting, permafrost defrosting.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001621_speaker_45.wav,All of these big things that indigenous people have depended on for so long is just disappearing.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001622_speaker_45.wav,"And that means our stories are disappearing, our languages are disappearing, because we as people believe we're one with the land.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001623_speaker_45.wav,"And now our generation is kind of having to not only fix that from the Western side, um, within these colonial structures, but also having to come up with, like, ""Okay, what, what are the new stories going to be so our children and grandchildren have something to grow up with and are able to adapt with it as well?"" There's",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001624_speaker_44.wav,"And if you look at your, uh, your CVs, you have, you have a lot of different awards from, from different organizations.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001625_speaker_44.wav,"How, how do you find...",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001626_speaker_44.wav,"How do you find the experience of bringing these stories into spaces where, as Sunshine said earlier, perhaps the value systems or the structure systems don't align with what those stories are telling you?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001627_speaker_46.wav,"I think it's, it's important to, to set our expectations.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001628_speaker_46.wav,"everything is not going to change 180 degree, like, overnight, right?",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001629_speaker_46.wav,"Like, when we go to COP, for example, we, we, we see, like, how...",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001630_speaker_46.wav,"For example, Sunshine was mentioning how she has, uh, she has been in the negotiation room, and, you know, it's hours after hours, but then you don't actually get what you want.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001631_speaker_46.wav,"Um, but I think it's still important that we show up and, and we be there, and that's what we see.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001632_speaker_46.wav,"that we've seen recently is the focus on youth leadership in these spaces, youth leadership and climate governance.",speaker_46,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001633_speaker_46.wav,"Um, we still have a long way to go, but, but the shift is...",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001634_speaker_46.wav,"Um, and we have s- we are also seeing how there are people and activists who are calling out.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001635_speaker_46.wav,"So we have spent a lot of time, uh, on focusing on individual actions, which is obviously important.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001636_speaker_46.wav,"But at the same time, I think, um, a growing focus is, is that we are calling out the, the big fishes.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001637_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, we have s- seen many examples where there's a lot of greenwashing going on, but we're calling those out.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001638_speaker_46.wav,"So I think, uh, when we show up in these spaces, we have that expectation that things are not gonna change overnight, but at the same time, we are still showing up.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001639_speaker_46.wav,"Um, and in terms of the stories, uh, connecting to what I mentioned earlier is that we see so many young people bringing solutions to the space as well.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001640_speaker_46.wav,"Um, uh, oftentimes, especially to Global South, uh, we, we tend to refer to them as the, as the, as the recipient of, of, of grants, for example, or beneficiary of, uh, of different, um, uh, solutions.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001641_speaker_46.wav,"Um, and I think a lot of young people are showing that or proving that.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001642_speaker_46.wav,"So I think we are also showing up not just with stories but also with tangible solutions that, that can be, um, replicated across the world.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001643_speaker_44.wav,"It bec- Yeah, it becomes a bit less of a story of pure crisis and a story of hope as well.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001644_speaker_44.wav,"And we can bring those solutions to, to that table.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001645_speaker_44.wav,"Um, how have you seen, or are there any specific examples of stories that, that either of you have found particularly powerful in terms of creating a different way of thinking about the crisis?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001646_speaker_44.wav,"What, what are some examples of what that story may, may be that could shift the narrative slightly in these spaces that we need to contribute to and present solutions in?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001647_speaker_45.wav,"Ooh, I think there are so many.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001648_speaker_45.wav,"Um, I mean, I specifically only know [speaks Native American language] ...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001649_speaker_45.wav,"Um, if we were to talk to every Indigenous group, every marginalized group, um, go into the mythol- or for what Western calls it mythology of communities, we would learn so much from everything.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001650_speaker_45.wav,"And it's because we have this very standardized version of what policy, legislation, um, society in general should be.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001651_speaker_45.wav,"Um, if we were to bring that storytelling, bring empathy, bring emotions back into the conversation, it would fill the gap that has been created by colonialism, um, from the patriarchy, from, uh...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001652_speaker_44.wav,"No, I was g- I was gonna ask you- Go ahead ...",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001653_speaker_44.wav,"And you just started that list, but, but continue that.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001654_speaker_45.wav,"I think a big one, um...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001655_speaker_45.wav,"I honestly cannot tell you, like, specific stories 'cause these are...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001656_speaker_45.wav,A lot of the ones that I follow within my values are closed to our nation.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001657_speaker_45.wav,"Um, it's, I guess, taking the values from it.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001658_speaker_45.wav,"Um, what, what is water?",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001659_speaker_45.wav,What are trees?,speaker_45,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001660_speaker_45.wav,"They are living, living, being, breathing things.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001661_speaker_45.wav,"It's just that from a human perspective, we can't see that.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001662_speaker_45.wav,"If you were to say that, um...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001663_speaker_45.wav,"I've had people roll their eyes and just be like, ""Yeah, okay, well, this is what the science says.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001664_speaker_45.wav,""" And that is a big conversation right now, is like, um, using the most up-to-date science.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001665_speaker_45.wav,"Which yes, but that, that, that also can't discredit, uh, lived knowledge that has been around for not just generations, but since time immemorial from communities that have lived on the land lot longer than any kind of science.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001666_speaker_45.wav,"Um, and I think that's what p- like a lot of Indigenous people are trying to say.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001667_speaker_45.wav,It's just saying that there are gaps and we know how to fill them.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001668_speaker_45.wav,I don't know if that- Mm-hmm ...,speaker_45,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001669_speaker_44.wav,"Your work is sanitation and hygiene, which I view in many ways, uh, sort of as ins- perhaps, [laughs] perhaps with these, the, the blinders of, of, of my, my upbringing there.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001670_speaker_44.wav,"But, um, but I view that as, as in some ways a, a discussion of science.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001671_speaker_44.wav,"H- how do you relate to, to what Sunshine just said? Yeah.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001672_speaker_46.wav,"Um, but I think for, for me, like, my work is more in the-...",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001673_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, the, the...",speaker_46,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001674_speaker_46.wav,"Um, so that's, that's how my, my activism is, is, is shaped in the, in the, in the grassroots.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001675_speaker_44.wav,"Uh, that's interesting, and I actually wanna pick up on sort of the linguistics of that.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001676_speaker_44.wav,"Um, you know, Sunshine, you were mentioning how often when you come into these spaces, there's, there's a different way of framing the conversation, whereas Shomy's, uh, in, in...",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001677_speaker_44.wav,How have you found that to be within the spaces that you're operating?,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001678_speaker_44.wav,"Uh, for both of you, what changes have you seen in the way that these conversations are happening, and do you feel that your approaches have shifted the way people are engaging in these conversations? Yeah.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001679_speaker_46.wav,"I think for me, it, it depends on who we are talking to, right?",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001680_speaker_46.wav,"But if we talk to, um, uh, a, a, a business, a corporate company that only cares about money, I think it's, it's important to tell them how it's important for the business.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001681_speaker_46.wav,"If we look into, uh, you know, the statistics, the countries that were, uh, that are led by women, uh, during the COVID-19 pandemic actually, uh, ga- gave a better response to the, to the pandemic, um, as compared to countries led by men.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001682_speaker_46.wav,"So I think it depends on who we are, who we are talking to.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001683_speaker_46.wav,"And, uh, similar, again, going back to that storytelling piece, right?",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001684_speaker_46.wav,"Like, when we design a campaign, um, it depends on wh- which, which community we are working with.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001685_speaker_46.wav,"But if I'm working with, uh, with, um, sex workers' community at a brothel, I might w- want to change the way I'm talking in the sense that maybe I want to speak in a, in a, in a, in a regional or, or a local dialect, um, you know?",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001686_speaker_46.wav,"Um, and, uh, if we, uh...",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001687_speaker_46.wav,"So I think using acronyms and that kind of scientific terms may not be applicable, uh, depending on who we are speaking with.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001688_speaker_44.wav,"Sunshine, do you have any reflections on that? Yeah.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001689_speaker_45.wav,"So I come from a communications background, uh, specifically like knowing, um, very like marketing.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001690_speaker_45.wav,So who are you speaking to?,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001691_speaker_45.wav,"It's having to, um, kind of still stay with my values, but also knowing that I have to put it in a way that I necessarily do not agree with, but if I wanna get my point across, that is how I need to actually share it.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001692_speaker_45.wav,"Um, which is like the mentally draining part of doing this work.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001693_speaker_45.wav,"Um, but from what I've seen, when you do put it in that kind of way, um, it's a lot more receptive.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001694_speaker_45.wav,"Uh, so when it's...",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001695_speaker_45.wav,"you're talking to government, it's very legal, um, 'cause then you have to have that legal standing of why they need to uphold indigenous rights.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001696_speaker_45.wav,"Uh, here in Canada, they've signed on to UNDRIP, the Declaration of Indigenous, uh, Rights.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001697_speaker_45.wav,"Um, they've created their own act under that.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001698_speaker_45.wav,"So it's having to be like, actually, you have a legal, uh, understanding to do this.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001699_speaker_45.wav,"Um, in international spaces, it's, um, again, kind of having to utilize other international standards that have been created, that had been signed onto, and that need to kind of create that foundation.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001700_speaker_45.wav,"Um, but I, I do think a big part of it too is when I'm going into these spaces, it's...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001701_speaker_45.wav,"And a lot of people that I work with too, it's trying to have these, whether it's who you're talking to or if it's just from like a wider stance on advocacy, it's addressing and acknowledging the foundation of what these policies and legislation stand on, which comes from a time that had no empathy, ha- comes from a time that",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001702_speaker_45.wav,"That is the assimilation of so many communities globally, and that is a very large explanation that could possibly go on conversation forever.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001703_speaker_45.wav,"Um, but that is like where my advocacy really stems from, is acknowledging that past history.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001704_speaker_44.wav,And one of the things that you had said earlier though is part of the reason that you feel you two have emerged as leaders is because there's a certain level of authenticity and empathy that...,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001705_speaker_44.wav,"So explain to me, how do you, how do you wrestle that, with, with the need in order to sort of speak to the people who have the power to code switch, as you say, or, or sort of adopt narratives that you don't necessarily agree with, but also the need to stay vulnerable and authentic?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001706_speaker_44.wav,"H- how do you do that personally, and how can you do that going forward?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001707_speaker_44.wav,What do you see the path to that for other people who are interested in these kinds of conversations?,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001708_speaker_45.wav,It's a lot of mental strength.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001709_speaker_45.wav,"It's a lot of continuing your own learning, and sometimes, it's just playing the game.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001710_speaker_45.wav,"It's a political game, unfortunately.",speaker_45,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001711_speaker_45.wav,"And if you want to get to your main point, um, your main...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001712_speaker_45.wav,"If, like, there's certain contexts that you want added in, it's, it's having to play that game.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001713_speaker_45.wav,"It's not fun, um, but from what I found, and it's always that internal [laughs] moral struggle, um, is, like, do you wanna play it?",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001714_speaker_45.wav,"'Cause then once you're in it, you're in it.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001715_speaker_45.wav,"Um, and there, there are a lot of good people.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001716_speaker_45.wav,"Um, there are allies there helping you, uh, bring forward what you want, um, but it's...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001717_speaker_45.wav,I don't think I have a full answer for that.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001718_speaker_45.wav,I'm still young and I...,speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001719_speaker_45.wav,Maybe that's where being the- having the ability to make mistakes comes from too.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001720_speaker_46.wav,"Um, and, and, and as someone who, who started my journey, you know, rooted in, in, in grassroots action and personal loss, I...",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001721_speaker_46.wav,"Authenticity has always been at the core of my, of my work.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001722_speaker_46.wav,"But the more, but the more we navigate, you know, formal systems, whether it's policy making, diplomacy, or all these high-level events, we, we quickly realize that these spaces have their own codes, their own expectations and politics as, as, as you mentioned.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001723_speaker_46.wav,"Um, but I think, I think what's, what's also important to, to keep in mind is that being strategic doesn't mean being inauthentic necessarily, um, right?",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001724_speaker_46.wav,"So there's, there's a difference between watering down your truth and choosing how and, and, and when to deliver it in a way that resonates.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001725_speaker_46.wav,"So sometimes it's about meeting people where they are, using language they understand and finding a common ground, even if it means not saying everything all at once.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001726_speaker_46.wav,And I think true change can...,speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001727_speaker_46.wav,"Like, u- oftentimes, I feel like we are preaching to the converted, um, and it is important at this stage to not only meet and discuss with like-minded people but also meet and have discussion with people who are not like-minded, right?",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001728_speaker_46.wav,"And, and in those cases, I think it's, it's important to find that, that common ground.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001729_speaker_46.wav,"What's at stake if I, if I stay silent?",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001730_speaker_46.wav,"Um, b- b- but at the same time, I also believe that we don't necessarily have to lose mys- uh, ourselves to make change, and it's okay to, you know, pick your battles, to pause and to be diplomatic as long as we're not compromising on our absolute core, core values.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001731_speaker_46.wav,"It is definitely a balancing act, and it's, um, it's definitely a tough one to strike. Mm.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001732_speaker_44.wav,"How have you seen in, in your work this bridge being built?",speaker_44,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001733_speaker_44.wav,"Can you explain a little bit about the progress you've seen, some of the remaining challenges, and where you see new forms of these conversations emerging, uh, and how they're emerging?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001734_speaker_44.wav,"What, what's the nature of these, these new spaces and, and how can they help facilitate some of the conversations go forward?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001735_speaker_45.wav,I could take a crack at this one.,speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001736_speaker_45.wav,New bridges.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001737_speaker_45.wav,"I mean, we're seeing it in the grassroots.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001738_speaker_45.wav,"Um, I think it just...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001739_speaker_45.wav,"It's just that now it needs to really bring- brought down to the systemic level of where it's being done within, like, the decision-making policies, within the international standards, and I think that's where a lot of the fear is.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001740_speaker_45.wav,"And that's because of, like, this older generation who currently makes a majority of that space is just fearful.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001741_speaker_45.wav,And it is scary.,speaker_45,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001742_speaker_45.wav,"Like, we are in a climate crisis, and......",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001743_speaker_45.wav,"there's the whole, ""Well, if we wanna fully fix the climate crisis, we'll end up in an economic crisis.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001744_speaker_45.wav,"So, like, there's just so many different factors, um, to kind of, like, just acknowledge that fear.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001745_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, one is, uh, someone who's, uh, I, I, um, always inspired by her, Vanessa from Uganda.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001746_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, she, uh, was a, a climate striker, uh, the solo climate striker outside, uh, the Ugandan Parliament.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001747_speaker_46.wav,"And later on, she was, uh, uh, if I remember correctly the story, she was cropped out of a photo that was featuring, uh, Greta, uh, and other activists at Davos, and she used that moment to shift the narrative on, on racial justice within, within the climate movement.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001748_speaker_46.wav,"And, and she now speaks globally on, you know, the importance of, uh, including African voices in climate conversations, um, and she spotlights local activists and talks about the intersection of climate with inequality, education and so on.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001749_speaker_46.wav,"So she literally shifted the narrative that climate is a, is a Western issue, that climate is also an African crisis, and, uh, you know, it's, um, it's, it's not a geography...",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001750_speaker_46.wav,"And then also, the, um, other example I can, I can, uh, think of is Climate Cardinal, Cardinals.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001751_speaker_46.wav,"So I think there're so many other examples out there where young people are really, uh, bridging, uh, bridging the climate crisis fr- from, from multiple angles.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001752_speaker_44.wav,"What's striking in there is the, the central theme of where does knowledge come from, how is knowledge shared, and how does knowledge empower others.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001753_speaker_44.wav,"Uh, uh, that's what I pulled from that.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001754_speaker_44.wav,Wanna sort of to bring in some of my own work here.,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001755_speaker_44.wav,"Uh, the reason I was at COP29 was to speak at the Faith Pavilion.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001756_speaker_44.wav,"What we're seeing is a, an increased recognition that some of the stories that shape us and inspire us to take action on the crisis are coming from a place that's much deeper than just economic paradigms, peace and security paradigms, uh, the ways that have traditionally been, been used.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001757_speaker_44.wav,"Um, or or rather the narratives that, that you, we often see in the international spaces, uh, in my experience.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001758_speaker_44.wav,And that n- idea of language is so important.,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001759_speaker_44.wav,"It's e- enabling a language, a different sort of language to be used in relation to the environment is something that I've seen to be quite transformative in how individuals and communities relate to the climate crisis, whether it's a matter of, of talking about one's spiritual obligations to the Earth, one's spiritual obligations to each other.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001760_speaker_44.wav,"There's something that can, uh, shift in that conversation, which is quite, quite profound and quite transformative.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001761_speaker_44.wav,"What are the stories that you wanna see in those international spaces, and how do you see those stories shifting the narrative in a productive direction? Yeah.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001762_speaker_46.wav,"I, I, I, I, I can resonate with the point of, uh, of, of faith, uh, and, and climate, climate activism, um, because I, I also think that faith is, faith is not just about, about beliefs or rituals, but it's also about responsibility.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001763_speaker_46.wav,"Um, so it's about how we treat each other, how we show up for our communities.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001764_speaker_46.wav,"And coming from Bangladesh where faith is, um, is strongly embedded in, in our daily life, and also where climate, uh, impacts are starkly visible, every year we see, uh, we see different climate-related, uh, disasters that threaten livelihood.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001765_speaker_46.wav,"But at the same time, I've seen how religion can be used to divide people.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001766_speaker_46.wav,"Um, so just most recently, we had, uh, like last year in July, we had the massive uprising in Bangladesh, where, uh, right after the uprising, we witnessed, uh, waves of propaganda and polarization rooted in faith identity.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001767_speaker_46.wav,"Um, but we've also seen the other side of it, where faith leaders were stepping up to, to counter misinformation.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001768_speaker_46.wav,"We have seen, uh, the leaders of one faith regarding the, um, the, uh, places of worship of another faith.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001769_speaker_46.wav,"Uh, they were preaching peace, and to mobilize their congregations for different relief efforts.",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001770_speaker_45.wav,"Just to add in here, I think it's interesting, um, 'cause, like, indigenous teachings, indigenous spirituality doesn't......",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001771_speaker_45.wav,"Um, it always seems to be in, like, this kind of gray zone, um, 'cause it's not necessarily a religion.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001772_speaker_45.wav,"Um, but then there's so many different perspectives to indigenous pers- uh, spirituality that it's not also...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001773_speaker_45.wav,"It's not seen as a faith, uh, per se.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001774_speaker_45.wav,So I think it's interesting that...,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001775_speaker_45.wav,"So, like, when we're talking about, like, what do we hope to see, and it is like, I do hope to see indigenous teachings and values being integrated into the spaces.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001776_speaker_45.wav,"Um, but then, which is a larger [laughs] conversation, how do we ensure that, again, we're not pan-indigenizing?",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001777_speaker_45.wav,"How do we ensure that, um, coming from a rights perspective, indigenous rights are still being with- upheld?",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001778_speaker_45.wav,"Um, it's a very complex conversation.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001779_speaker_45.wav,It just...,speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001780_speaker_45.wav,"I think there's so many different aspects to it that it's, it's multi-dimensional.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001781_speaker_45.wav,It's a lot.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001782_speaker_45.wav,"And, I mean, just having this conversation, the conversations are being had.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001783_speaker_45.wav,"Um, I just...",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001784_speaker_44.wav,"My final question for both of you is, what is it that gives you hope?",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001785_speaker_46.wav,"When we see there's an, any kind of injustice, like right now, especially with the different wars and conflicts and so on, we see how young people are showing up and they're connecting, uh, all these different crises together like they are, um, you know, the, the climate, um, climate campaigners are talking about another injustice happening in a different part of the world, which may have, which could have been separated,",speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001786_speaker_46.wav,So the sense of community that we see among young activists is what gives me hope.,speaker_46,angry,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001787_speaker_45.wav,"I think for myself, there's kind of, like, two different avenues.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001788_speaker_45.wav,One is the people that I've met within these spaces.,speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001789_speaker_45.wav,"They have all been very compassionate, kind, knowledgeable people who are really driving change in their communities and in the work that they do.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001790_speaker_45.wav,"And it's inspiring for me to see, um, and just getting to make some, like, really good friends.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001791_speaker_45.wav,"And then the second avenue, which sounds a little more ego, but I think it's also great to acknowledge yourself, like, us here, the work that we're putting in is a lot of work.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001792_speaker_45.wav,"It's, um, inspiring.",speaker_45,happy,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001793_speaker_45.wav,"And so I'd also like to, like, acknowledge myself that even though, I mean, last night I was crying because I was so tired from working.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001794_speaker_45.wav,"Um, but then this morning, I jumped on a call at 9:00 AM to continue doing that work.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001795_speaker_45.wav,"I mean, we spend day in and day out doing this.",speaker_45,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001796_speaker_44.wav,"[instrumental music plays] Shomi, Sunshine, thank you so much for taking the time and for all your brilliant insights.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001797_speaker_46.wav,Thank you. Kukwstén.,speaker_46,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001798_speaker_44.wav,"We hope that through the discussions we had on Discussing Apocalypse, you'll learn more about the profound moral nature of the climate crisis, as well as the impact efforts to bring narratives of faith into the climate policy space are having.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001799_speaker_44.wav,Stay tuned to this feed.,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001800_speaker_44.wav,"This series was written and hosted by me, Christian Knoll, with technical assistance from Tris Yapp and Jessica Roland from the Network of Traditional and Religious Peacebuilders.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001801_speaker_44.wav,It was edited by Honor Astill from the LSE RGS Unit.,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001802_speaker_44.wav,"Special thanks to our interviewees this week, Shomi Choudhury and Sunshine Dunstan-Moore.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001803_speaker_44.wav,This series was based in part on research conducted by Dr.,speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001804_speaker_44.wav,"Hanan Benady for a project generously sponsored by the Templeton Religion Trust, hosted at the LSE Faith Centre.",speaker_44,neutral,en https://huggingface.co/datasets/Codyfederer/test5/resolve/main/segment_001805_speaker_44.wav,Music is Shadowman by Lobo Loco from Free Music Archive Licensed under Creative Commons.,speaker_44,neutral,en