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+0.998791094512	4.79975801285	O1	So what do you consider as an art?
+6.97963598899	14.7280154542	O2	Well, as a photographer and musician, I, consider this as a form of art.
+15.1255924918	21.3294684074	O2	But I also um, appreciates appreciate still arts
+21.3294684074	28.5345583799	O2	Like you know, paintings, crafts, cultures a lot of things what about you?
+29.0385449862	37.1280092725	O1	Well, anything that is done with the purpose of expressing emotion
+37.1571002753	42.5410961542	O1	Or with the purpose of relating something to the one looking at it.
+42.5410961542	45.9716298073	O1	It's, uh considered an art for me.
+45.9813268082	52.6787880037	O1	For example I think of that music and dancing are forms of art.
+52.6884850046	58.4489741303	O1	Because they would convey the emotion to the listener or to the watcher.
+58.4733452959	59.8309254244	O1	What about you?
+59.9682419872	63.368728022	O2	Yeah, that is very, that is really true like art.
+64.551762134	67.9842430174	O2	It's always a form of self-expression.
+68.8560848703	76.6046193918	O1	Yeah um, there's an issue though about art that it tends to get um
+76.9699441395	83.7132150872	O1	I don't know, people tend to think that, art is really expensive.
+84.1980651331	91.8664456286	O1	Like um, I don't know what they are looking at those or they aim at focus on looking at the paintings.
+91.8858396304	97.5260651331	O1	I guess where you s-should spend tons of money if you want one.
+97.5260651331	103.839288462	O1	But um, what can you say about that those art really have to be expensive?
+104.120501489	110.119773467	O2	I totally disagree with that, like well, we have this great artist
+110.283150984	113.826663919	O2	Those you call who make expensive paintings like
+114.515150984	120.876859318	O2	They're s- they, they are people, who we look up to like
+122.000151982	124.578428114	O2	Our history books knows about them.
+124.96630815	132.616246108	O2	But that doesn't mean any that that doesn't mean that, art should be only made
+132.616246108	138.969450893	O2	By this kind of people that it has to be expensive and it has to meet a certain price like.
+138.969450893	141.413570856	O2	Like artists everywhere.
+142.916605998	147.257701122	O2	Art should never have a price on it if it really is an art.
+148.170908997	154.830796246	O1	Yeah I agree, I mean like, you could consider a child's drawing as an art.
+154.830796246	160.793698031	O1	Because, that in, within that drawing is the child's imagination
+160.793698031	165.665705243	O1	You can see how the child receives the world through the drawing.
+165.665705243	173.100138508	O1	And I mean, you don't have to pay for it in order to be able to look at it right?
+173.256241987	175.061573947	O2	I totally agree with you.
+175.46205483	179.717091003	O2	So you talked about a child drawing,
+180.599518086	182.632726992	O2	Are you into sketching?
+182.690908997	186.735034112	O2	Or like painting what kind of art do you actually do?
+187.438544986	194.191037203	O1	Well I um recently got into drawings sketching painting.
+194.229825206	202.21989137	O1	I usually like water, using water color because I think that at this point in time
+202.316861379	209.414546017	O1	Um, It would be easier for me to adapt to it from shifting from being eh
+209.753941049	215.053830358	O1	Or shifting rather from drawing to water color is easier rather than
+215.065857169	220.435665867	O1	shifting from drawing to an oil base um, painting I guess.
+220.544968979	221.514793111	O1	How about you?
+221.514793111	223.880861335	O1	What kind of art do you do?
+224.424586932	229.098541374	O2	Well, as I've mentioned I do photography and music
+229.142314332	234.844616301	O2	So when you mentioned about oils and sketching
+234.854313302	238.045102336	O2	I have this like question mark face.
+238.054799337	245.739407395	O2	Because I don't really know what you're talking about but, you seem to be very passionate about it and that's admirable..
+246.191271978	252.005097184	O1	Yeah, it's something that I find that I could do to express myself.
+252.441462226	259.484120994	O1	If something upsets me, or if something um, or if a thought or an
+260.327760073	266.997825206	O1	Event comes to mind, I feel that I could um, I don't need to tell other people
+267.048	270.006061012	O1	Especially if it is um, upsetting.
+270.345456044	276.324600847	O1	That, I don't need to tell other people about it but I can, show the story through my art.
+276.324600847	281.265701122	O1	And I think um, but you do love dancing don't you?
+282.252114812	289.611870764	O2	I, actually doesn't like dancing, but I enjoy
+289.611870764	294.865698031	O2	I enjoy watching people who dances, gracefully.
+294.982062042	301.671516026	O1	Yeah I think um oh I thought you enjoy dancing because of for me
+302.330912088	309.30158425	O1	Like it's something that, I don't know, people, have this um
+310.220852106	317.958325665	O1	I don't know with disposition to think that, for something to come, be considered as an art, for dancing to be considered as an art
+317.987416668	323.396861379	O1	For music to be considered as an art, you have to be very good at it.
+323.455043384	330.508618362	O1	But I don't, I don't particularly agree to that, because if I see someone dancing,
+330.877574977	337.568237866	O1	As long as they're enjoying themselves, they, even if they are not particularly good at it
+337.568237866	340.533572916	O1	I would think that, it is an art.
+341.270544986	348.115894461	O2	Yeah, like we know how to appreciate like what other people consider good art.
+348.115894461	352.097943109	O2	But what is really a good art like?
+352.272489126	354.859635989	O2	How can you say it's really good?
+357.50133299	365.490190248	O1	I think um, anything is good, if it can be or anything can be considered as a good art
+365.490190248	370.597091003	O1	If um, someone is able to appreciate it.
+371.09163805	373.4	O1	Now um, talking about.
+373.972123054	378.567758013	O1	Like you mentioned photography right, and um
+380.02230815	387.766317423	O1	I don't know what will you say to people who think that, photography is you know should not be considered
+387.766317423	392.433949291	O1	As an art because it's simply pointing and clicking a camera.
+393.474645779	396.189806036	O2	Well, it is considered an art
+396.19322436	402.288743476	O2	Because you are showing, the art that was made by nature
+402.431518086	409.35686653	O2	So it's not just making it, it's showing and appreciating the art.
+409.434442538	411.232485005	O2	That is already made..
+412.56097413	420.548141599	O1	I agree and I think that um, in photography, you have well, there're certain angles right?
+420.548141599	424.793455014	O1	There are certain compositions that you have to put in a photo.
+425.191032051	431.122435326	O1	It's not you know, people have this idea that, photography is just pointing and clicking a camera.
+431.141829328	437.095273008	O1	When actually, it it has to be like, having a different perspective.
+437.812851076	443.929453983	O1	Being able to capture that perspective and bring it out for other people to see.
+444.104	447.091152015	O2	And being creative in how you capture it.
+447.46933505	454.760003091	O2	Like it can, it can only be a playing side, but if you do the right job,
+454.760003091	461.39128022	O2	Do the right work, you can show it in a different, different way.
+462.727519117	464.299379578	O1	Yeah, I totally agree.
+464.454531593	472.360480883	O2	Now um speaking of art, would you, like, I don't know because you have a family right
+472.360480883	475.205814904	O2	Uh you have a daughter and, would you
+476.262788004	480.223500571	O2	Be opposed to her going to art school
+480.223500571	485.029234619	O2	Instead of going to like other professions
+485.979148924	492.645091003	O1	Wwll for me, anything that she is passionate about like she can always find.
+494.744970009	502.653817994	O1	Art, in any, in anything that she wants to do, like if she wants to be a doctor someday,
+503.507154075	510.470552198	O1	She can be an artistic doctor like how does sh- how will, she present her profession.
+510.519037203	516.424248169	O1	In creative and in in a crea- in a creative way, like.
+517.423514995	525.409938988	O2	Yeah I I get what uh you're trying to say, um, there is art in everything so you wouldn't be opposed.
+525.409938988	528.635879006	O2	To your daughter going to an art school right?
+529.490904876	537.480971039	O1	Of course, of course not, like I would enjoy it if she tells me that she wanna attend an art school someday.
+538.053094094	542.263758013	O1	Like people say the artistic people are born.
+542.641941049	547.954431205	O1	But I think, you can also create an artistic person.
+548.264735234	551.901576007	O1	Like she does maybe, she doesn't even know she likes art.
+552.085819025	556.628128206	O1	But probably attending an art class will do.
+557.52025229	561.639273008	O1	Bring out the artist in him or create an artist in him.
+562.415033082	569.523881067	O2	Yeah, I get what you're trying to say um, but there's this thing though about you know
+569.523881067	574.431028961	O2	Speaking of art school and art students there's this stereotype, I guess.
+574.731635989	582.704255381	O2	Where uh an arts student is usually perceived as someone messy and someone I don't know
+583.314908997	588.082672161	O2	Who smokes weed and does not have a direction in life.
+588.102066163	595.945447802	O2	Which is actually a wrong impression, I've heard about that, that in circulating impression that artists
+595.945447802	602.850663919	O2	Doesn't care how they look, which's doesn't apply to all artists.
+603.544477793	610.187394002	O2	Yeah I guess, because I don't, I have eh, read of artists who are
+610.48800103	617.158547047	O2	Um, very neat and very, um, systematic in their way of doing things.
+617.168244048	625.155411517	O2	Um, aside from that, I have also read of an article about an autistic child
+625.82450458	627.28000103	O2	Who is um,
+627.832730083	633.639751831	O2	Who also has a savant syndrome so he's good at doing art and I think um,
+634.211874885	640.020849016	O2	People were bashing him because they say that his art is just.
+640.922670101	645.477580128	O2	Um like a product of his, Savant Syndrome
+645.874423993	647.455510874	O2	What can you say about that?
+648.667635989	651.416	O1	Honestly, I don't know what to say about that.
+652.410420902	660.402915179	O1	But this child doing some paintings showing his imaginations is an art.
+660.419147894	665.720246108	O1	Because I choose the things that you imagine.
+666.998302999	674.75564114	O1	As we were talking about it's a for some some  self, self-expression and if that child will have a certain kind of disorder
+675.113697001	678.895997939	O1	Does that, would  it is with, express himself?
+679.390544986	683.519520147	O2	Yeah, I agree, I agree I think eh that,
+683.922423993	690.987167469	O2	Some people just, I don't know, tend to bring other people down at things that they are not good at.
+690.987167469	698.690678343	O2	So when they see someone who is good at painting, who is good at drawing, who is good at creating music
+698.690678343	706.727271978	O2	Dancing I think that um, the first things that they will see is the negatives.
+707.532123054	713.775520147	O2	They tend to bring those people down because um uh insecurities I guess
+713.80461115	720.337704213	O2	So um, in the art world, we have what we call  art critics.
+720.780604968	728.369462226	O2	Do you like tend to agree with what they say or the impressions
+728.369462226	734.110552198	O2	Of a certain art or do you prefer to have your own opinion about the art?
+734.291633928	738.36364114	O1	For me, anyone can be an art critic.
+738.873211996	742.17066804	O1	Like we are all entitled to our own opinions.
+742.69430609	747.776	O1	However,this I believe this art critics you're talking about are actually artists.
+747.977689789	752.273936928	O1	Who put a certain label on these arts.
+752.915628777	758.799761104	O2	Well I don't know if I would agree with the one.
+759.683144803	761.406049679	O2	They're trying to say but
+762.782400591	765.022407803	O2	I I just do respect their opinion.
+765.992731113	770.928970009	O1	Now I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion when it comes to art.
+770.928970009	778.248248169	O1	Because as we have said you can't really put a certain art in a certain box right
+778.379635989	782.810432235	O2	You cannot put a certain label on things I guess.
+784.067889271	787.772143621	O2	So now a little a little bit off topic.
+789.001449862	794.471514995	O2	Do you think that it's proper to call nude paintings art?
+795.623510874	800.022788004	O1	Well, yeah, at a, cert, at a certain point.
+800.226425023	807.528742446	O1	Because um, people actually think of that it's I don't know.
+808.449700092	814.992485005	O1	Offending to some, but I think that the art that is being displayed there is.
+815.613093063	821.512956616	O1	You know how they made it, how they created that painting every stroke
+821.522653616	829.386188187	O1	Every I don't know every composition of a nude, painting is art in itself.
+830.323635989	838.194439447	O2	Well, they always said that the body, is an art like we have certain measurements
+838.194439447	845.672249199	O2	We have certain curves, and the I guess,  showing that in a form of art
+845.672249199	849.626420902	O2	Like painting is pretty impressive.
+850.285816964	857.791766255	O1	Um, I agree I actually art is, especially nude art is about how is the person
+857.966312272	862.981822116	O1	Perceives it, it's kind of subjective. because um,
+863.446544986	868.106907967	O1	A person can see the art as just that, a nude picture.
+868.106907967	875.846061012	O1	But someone could also see that and um, interpret the way that the body is position.
+876.437578068	879.552	O2	That is true so since we're talking about our bodies.
+880.92897413	885.777950321	O2	Do you consider tattoos, as a form of art?
+885.883150984	893.853352565	O1	Yeah, of course I guess um, it's a form of self-expression on the part of the one.
+893.853352565	899.257460165	O1	Having the tattoo and the tattoo artist, themselves.
+900.285817994	908.280730083	O2	I agree that like they always tell me that don't get tattoos those are just markings.
+909.236362981	911.170178915	O2	It's just form of self-expression.
+911.528967949	916.304	O2	It's well we keep telling about this but it is actually an art.
+917.897211996	925.384981342	O2	It shows it shows culture it shows emotion
+925.956113782	932.712243017	O2	It shows well, to put it short, is a form of self-express, self-expression.
+933.003153045	936.939397093	O1	Yeah, I get what you are trying to say, I guess um,
+937.895029991	945.505197572	O1	Tattoos have a bad rep because it started out in prison or it was popularised in prison.
+945.522839522	953.449940018	O1	I'm not sure I don't quote me on that, but I think that you know, people I have met a lot, of people who have
+953.449940018	961.223040294	O1	Tattoos and when I ask them about the tattoos it's actually, there's a story behind it and then
+961.251482879	964.412705178	O1	You can see it in their skin like
+964.500626604	970.733092033	O1	They point at a certain object, and they say that this represents my mum, or this represents
+970.762183036	977.97841575	O1	The an event that I went through and it's like it's a form of getting to know them.
+977.97841575	985.125105427	O1	Actually, I think that um, specially those professionals, who have tattoos
+985.280728022	989.186672161	O1	Like doctors, nurses um pilots engineers.
+989.415029991	991.494300939	O1	People would tend to avoid them.
+991.950059982	993.768725961	O1	Because of their tattoos.
+994.020847985	1002.00970009	O1	But I think if people would just take their time to, ask them about why they have those tattoos
+1002.0678821	1006.72654499	O1	I think it would be a good story of a conversation conversation really.
+1008.08412511	1011.02400618	O2	I agree with you I'm just like
+1012.0414581	1018.07757601	O2	Paintings, drawings, sketches, it's just  that you made your skins as your canvas
+1018.80485108	1023.68655014	O1	But, speaking of skin as a canvas, I guess you know.
+1024.044606	1031.7461851	O1	Tattoo artists have it tough because people have this notion that um,
+1032.05696975	1039.97335463	O1	They would just be drawing that certain image on the skin like why should they gay get paid
+1039.97866083	1041.96823581	O1	For it and um.
+1043.0155119	1049.21963496	O1	What can you say about the notion that tattoo artists shouldn't have to get paid that high?
+1050.62011584	1057.98546635	O2	Well I have you seen a tattoo artist making a tattoo or performing it
+1058.40217994	1060.69599897	O2	It's very captivating.
+1060.90933299	1064.75951809	O2	Like how can they put a certain image under your skin?
+1066.35393899	1067.2259359	O2	They've earned it
+1068.20459982	1074.71540018	O1	Yeah, it's not, it's not easy you know having a living person as a canvas
+1074.87587386	1079.66666804	O1	Like um especially those who have low tolerance.
+1079.69575904	1084.46351706	O1	For pain, and then they would be moving a lot during the process
+1084.47321406	1092.28235846	O1	And it takes a good, a certain level of skill to be able to put on a perfect image on someone
+1092.28235846	1093.28114955	O1	Who's moving.
+1094.3221851	1096.136	O2	I totally agree with that.
+1097.26085211	1102.80485623	O1	So would you would you consider um, getting a tattoo?
+1103.22836298	1109.03175801	O2	I actually, I'm planning on travelling and getting a tattoo from that place.
+1110.54449016	1111.85042399	O1	Well, that's a good idea.
+1112.06375801	1114.32363496	O1	It will serve us in memory of that place.
+1114.65575724	1116.50788442	O2	Exactly what I'm thinking about
+1116.65091518	1122.69430712	O2	Well, speaking of travelling would you also consider going to visit art museum
+1123.02400515	1124.046303	O1	When you travel
+1125.0838821	1131.85308276	O2	Of course, like I wanna go somewhere, I wanna go to Spain, and then visit these
+1132.66737198	1134.73283318	O1	Churches these
+1137.854788	1142.00315201	O2	Buildings this cult, those cultural paintings.
+1142.34254705	1146.41697722	O2	Because I feel like, there is a lot to see in there.
+1147.47200309	1154.2996432	O1	Yeah well architecture in itself, is a form of foil, it's an expression of
+1154.59055323	1162.12945913	O1	You know that era right because um, usually you can see the the way the people live
+1162.15855014	1165.10691415	O1	During that era through architecture.
+1165.41284799	1170.81333402	O2	Exactly and I mentioned about Spain, like I really wanna see Sagrada Familia.
+1171.40654087	1175.46763702	O2	Like I'm it's so, pretty.
+1176.18521509	1179.62206101	O2	From pictures of course, I haven't been there yet.
+1179.98085005	1182.38618201	O2	It's so delicately done.
+1182.69648603	1186.92484902	O2	Like there's a lot of scene in there, there's a lot of effort.
+1187.52606307	1190.2004881	O2	And it's just so, captivating
+1190.96096692	1196.84315201	O1	Yeah um, from pictures it looks magnificent and you have to.
+1197.00800103	1203.31321715	O1	Like I don't know I want to go there too to really appreciate the beauty of it.