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He said, where is it? Where is it? Where's the money? Where's the money? So the guy died on him. + + + + + + + + + + So the- + + + + + + + + + + the good guy, he didn't die. + + + + + + + + + + So he say, + + + + + + + + + + here, + + + + + + + + + + don't die on me now. All the [water you can drink.] Here's all the water you can drink. + + + + + + + + + + So he took him to this monastery, + + + + + + + + + + and uh + + + + + + + + + + had him all healed up you know. [Cause he] was all peeled up and chapped up and [stuff.] + + + + + + + + + + And er uh + + + + + + + + + + he took care of him until they nurse him back to health. + + + + + + + + + + And they all went to this grave. + + + + + + + + + + But before they went to the grave, + + + + + + + + + + they was + + + + + + + + + + riding together, + + + + + + + + + + and here come- they thought was uh Confederate troops. + + + + + + + + + + And uh + + + + + + + + + + they were Yankee troops + + + + + + + + + + because the dust on 'em, you know. He just + + + + + + + + + + started he- + + + + + + + + + + they was h- + + + + + + + + + + hollering, + + + + + + + + + + Hail to Lee! Hail to Lee! + + + + + + + + + + But he just + + + + + + + + + + start brushing off his blue uniform <laugh>. + + + + + + + + + + And [er uh] <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + they + + + + + + + + + + took them on in this uh + + + + + + + + + + compound of concentration, + + + + + + + + + + and er uh + + + + + + + + + + they served time there. So this other- + + + + + + + + + + the Sergeant there, + + + + + + + + + + he knew about it. + + + + + + + + + + And he wants to know which one + + + + + + + + + + knew where the grave was at. + + + + + + + + + + So what he done, he took the Ugly, + + + + + + + + + + he whipped him and made him tell who know about it, + + + + + + + + + + so that only leave the Good. + + + + + + + + + + So they took the Ugly on the- + + + + + + + + + + on a train + + + + + + + + + + to have him locked up in some other compound somewhere else. + + + + + + + + + + And so he managed to escape + + + + + + + + + + and er uh + + + + + + + + + + meet up with them in another town. + + + + + + + + + + And s- + + + + + + + + + + so these two got together again, the Good and the Ugly, they got together again, + + + + + + + + + + and they killed off all the men, + + + + + + + + + + what the bad guy had, + + + + + + + + + + and after they killed all of the men that the bad guy had then + + + + + + + + + + they went to the grave together, + + + + + + + + + + And they all showed up there together one by one, + + + + + + + + + + and so uh + + + + + + + + + + the Good guy told uh, + + + + + + + + + + the Bad and the Ugly said, + + + + + + + + + + If you want + + + + + + + + + + to know where the money is at, + + + + + + + + + + we gonna have to have a show down for it, he said, I'm'a write it on this rock. + + + + + + + + + + And [he said], who remains alive, + + + + + + + + + + will know where it's at. + + + + + + + + + + So they all + + + + + + + + + + got in their position for the draw. + + + + + + + + + + So what the Good guy do- did, + + + + + + + + + + he took the + + + + + + + + + + Ugly guy that night they was riding to the grave site, + + + + + + + + + + he took the Ugly guy, all his bullets out and jammed his chamber + + + + + + + + + + cause he knew he was faster. + + + + + + + + + + And + + + + + + + + + + so when they all + + + + + + + + + + went for the draw, he was the first to draw but he couldn't shoot, so the Good shot- + + + + + + + + + + shot the Bad guy + + + + + + + + + + and that + + + + + + + + + + left him and the Ugly remain. + + + + + + + + + + So he + + + + + + + + + + aks him say, what uh- + + + + + + + + + + where is the money at? + + + + + + + + + + It was the grave of the unknown. + + + + + + + + + + That was- that was + + + + + + + + + + where was the money at. + + + + + + + + + + And they dug it up + + + + + + + + + + and so before uh he- the Good guy knew, + + + + + + + + + + the Ugly guy was going to uh + + + + + + + + + + kill him, + + + + + + + + + + you know, if + + + + + + + + + + he didn't do nothing about it, so after he dug u- after the + + + + + + + + + + Ugly dug up the money, + + + + + + + + + + the Good guy + + + + + + + + + + put a rope around his neck and stand him up on the- + + + + + + + + + + on- + + + + + + + + + + on one of the crosses that they- + + + + + + + + + + hid in the ground, on sticks you know? Oaks? + + + + + + + + + + And stood him up on that with a rope around his neck of- hanging from a tree, + + + + + + + + + + and he rode off a couple, + + + + + + + + + + I'll say + + + + + + + + + + few feet + + + + + + + + + + away from him + + + + + + + + + + and then he shot him down and rode on, but it was really good movie. + + + + + + + + + + I never forget it. + + + + + + + + + + That's the best western I've really seen in such a long time you know. + + + + + + + + + + Well I really can't say what's the be- but this is the one, this + + + + + + + + + + movie is the best movie I've ever seen + + + + + + + + + + Yes, I had a dog. + + + + + + + + + + /??/ His name was Jackie, got ranned over by a car. + + + + + + + + + + I cried like I was- <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + I don't know what. I- + + + + + + + + + + I was hurt over that for quite awhile. + + + + + + + + + + No, other pets, I didn't uh + + + + + + + + + + I didn't uh have. + + + + + + + + + + [Well] in school, I'll tell you about my subjects there. English class I di- I didn't like too much because it was + + + + + + + + + + uninterested. I like the Science class and the M- + + + + + + + + + + Math class because I liked to work with figures and + + + + + + + + + + always wanted to know what different kind of animals and + + + + + + + + + + stuff was and stuff like that. + + + + + + + + + + And er uh + + + + + + + + + + The study period, it was- + + + + + + + + + + it was okay /unintelligible/ I coulda + + + + + + + + + + go into the library and read + + + + + + + + + + certain books. And I was always wanna look for a little sex book, you know words. [You know a] little, + + + + + + + + + + little words you know. + + + + + + + + + + And er uh + + + + + + + + + + then I wanted to uh + + + + + + + + + + becoming + + + + + + + + + + join the music class, + + + + + + + + + + take away my study period and get into music class, so I + + + + + + + + + + uh went to music class for about, I'd say about one or two semesters. + + + + + + + + + + And I dropped out of that because I got uninterested in it. That's when they first started the football + + + + + + + + + + at our high school at the [time.] + + + + + + + + + + And then, naturally, I + + + + + + + + + + always liked the rugged stuff you know and- + + + + + + + + + + and I /put the down/ and I went and um joined the football team because I was too small for the basketball + + + + + + + + + + in the first [place.] + + + + + + + + + + So I finally got into the football, + + + + + + + + + + and er uh the thing about it uh + + + + + + + + + + I was the runner, now I was- that was really trying + + + + + + + + + + just hearing the girls screaming when I catch a pass and run [across the goal.] + + + + + + + + + + Right. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Oh yes indeed. + + + + + + + + + + I was a pretty good runner too for m-, you know for my + + + + + + + + + + size. I was + + + + + + + + + + pretty fast. + + + + + + + + + + I weighed- I say I weighed about a hundred and twenty pounds then. + + + + + + + + + + Oh we had one teacher there, /RD-NAME-4/. He was really something. + + + + + + + + + + He was + + + + + + + + + + really by the book guy, you know. [He-] + + + + + + + + + + When you get in there, you have to be in attention all through his cla-, hi- his- [uh sessions] you know. + + + + + + + + + + I didn't really like him and uh + + + + + + + + + + the Science class. Well, he was a good friend of my father. + + + + + + + + + + Well they was in the Navy together, + + + + + + + + + + stuff like that [and uh] + + + + + + + + + + I really did liked him because he was, then he became a preacher around in the community also, you know and + + + + + + + + + + He was just a real lovable type guy and + + + + + + + + + + I really was interested in going to his class, + + + + + + + + + + and I like math because my teacher was real pretty you know. + + + + + + + + + + And then- + + + + + + + + + + I didn't have to sit in the back of the class, I always sit up front in that class you know? + + + + + + + + + + Cause I just liked to look at her all day. + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + Oh you sit wherever you wanted to sit at. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + And uh- + + + + + + + + + + in this, er, uh, history class, + + + + + + + + + + /RD-NAME-3/, + + + + + + + + + + she was the type on uh semester day, she would wear these soft shoes to sneak up on you to see if you uh + + + + + + + + + + copying or something of the [type you] know. + + + + + + + + + + She was really slick, and when she'd catch you, she'd just ring your ears like that you know, [it-] + + + + + + + + + + Mmh! + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, put tacks in the seat, + + + + + + + + + + glue, and all that kind of stuff. + + + + + + + + + + Principal, he would- the- she would send us down to the principal office. He probably would expell you for a day or two or make you get out there on the school ground and pick up papers uh- + + + + + + + + + + Just any miscellaneous stuff or clean the- + + + + + + + + + + the + + + + + + + + + + men's restroom. + + + + + + + + + + Just any + + + + + + + + + + janitorial work. + + + + + + + + + + Oh + + + + + + + + + + well, what I do for recreation now well + + + + + + + + + + well I goes to- sometime I goes to night clubs + + + + + + + + + + just for the dancing. I love to dance, and I like + + + + + + + + + + all of th- this latest stuff you know. + + + + + + + + + + Like the Duck and this and [that, I ca-] + + + + + + + + + + Oh, oh yes indeed. It don't take me long to - + + + + + + + + + + I just do- could just watch just for a couple of 'em and I- + + + + + + + + + + I can get out there and kind of + + + + + + + + + + do it just-, just about the same /way they/. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + I just- just- I just concentrate on what they're doing in the foot movement. + + + + + + + + + + And I could just see, like the back and forth or the cross or something like that. I could + + + + + + + + + + just + + + + + + + + + + concentrate for a couple of dances, and I can + + + + + + + + + + be able to do it. + + + + + + + + + + No, this about anywhere I goes to. Uh + + + + + + + + + + it could be strangers to me or something, they + + + + + + + + + + so the girls too. I mean I just- + + + + + + + + + + to me, it- just having fun because um, I'm a music lover also, you know. I [love music.] + + + + + + + + + + No, but I ever did love uh music. Well I could- + + + + + + + + + + I won't say really master it, but + + + + + + + + + + like a little drums, + + + + + + + + + + little piano, I could you know, do a little [something.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mostly I + + + + + + + + + + would like to do, you know sing- I sings a lot you know. + + + + + + + + + + No. Really, they don't speak any different languages. Well I know one that uh + + + + + + + + + + does. He speaks Spanish, + + + + + + + + + + but er uh, you could tell his accent. He speak English, but he can speak Spanish. + + + + + + + + + + Well + + + + + + + + + + I'll say + + + + + + + + + + it all depends. I like + + + + + + + + + + parties, like you have house parties, [weekend] parties at somebody's + + + + + + + + + + apartment. + + + + + + + + + + Well, it- it be mixed up all kinds a way- everybody just- + + + + + + + + + + just be there having a good time. That's- + + + + + + + + + + that's all it be. + + + + + + + + + + Oh, one- one try to be. He was- + + + + + + + + + + him and I used to share an apartment once, but uh to me, he has an attitude. + + + + + + + + + + I mean the way, it may not mean nothing- + + + + + + + + + + he may not mean nothing bad, but it just the way he talks you know? + + + + + + + + + + Cause he'll + + + + + + + + + + say something like uh, + + + + + + + + + + uh, get up and get me a can of beer. I say, hell, who you think you're talking to you know? + + + + + + + + + + You know, I mean you know. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, like tell me uh, go to the store. I was like, what's wrong with him? You know, like [it's both] his legs or arm broke or something, you know. + + + + + + + + + + And uh, him and I couldn't get along together because I didn't ever did like a person with a nasty attitude, you know because + + + + + + + + + + I'm always the friendly type, uh, + + + + + + + + + + likes to have conversation where you sit down and talk, uh + + + + + + + + + + have fun, talk about something else, you know, but + + + + + + + + + + that hollering and screaming now- he really try to be + + + + + + + + + + the leader. + + + + + + + + + + Think he + + + + + + + + + + dominates + + + + + + + + + + you know. + + + + + + + + + + I didn't ever did like it. + + + + + + + + + + I would be a musician by profession. + + + + + + + + + + [I'm] thinking about the cash money and the nighttime life, all the fun and all the girls. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + All the time. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Well, all depends. Sometime the groups + + + + + + + + + + that I don't uh + + + + + + + + + + like, I don't go to see them. + + + + + + + + + + Like uh, it's a couple of 'em there now like Peaches and Herb. I like those. + + + + + + + + + + Jerry Butler, I like him. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, but the rest of 'em with these unidentified names, I don't have no use for 'em, you know, uh. They make but one record, and you hear no more about them. + + + + + + + + + + Then they comes in and they sing other people + + + + + + + + + + music, you know uh, + + + + + + + + + + they do the whole show of other people's stuff. + + + + + + + + + + Now Mr. James Brown, now I really likes him. I'll be in DC Stadium Sunday. That's where he gonna be, over there. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Uh, I think it's uh from- + + + + + + + + + + I think it start at + + + + + + + + + + two or three o'clock, I'm not- + + + + + + + + + + I'm not [positive the time.] + + + + + + + + + + N- this is a benefit for the charity for the + + + + + + + + + + poor people camp, Children Hospital he's doing this. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + I think it start between two or three o'clock. + + + + + + + + + + Oh, it's gonna be- it's gonna be packed. Yeah + + + + + + + + + + people be all the way from Baltimore here. + + + + + + + + + + All of- + + + + + + + + + + d- + + + + + + + + + + down in Virginia, like Manassas, + + + + + + + + + + Fairfax County, + + + + + + + + + + um + + + + + + + + + + Baltimore, Maryland. + + + + + + + + + + They gonna be from everywhere here. + + + + + + + + + + [They-] + + + + + + + + + + I believe he would- I b- I bet he'd get a crowd of + + + + + + + + + + about, I'll say about forty thousand. + + + + + + + + + + I bet he will. + + + + + + + + + + [Cause every time] he come to the Howard Theater he bes there for a week. + + + + + + + + + + You have a line, a double line, going around to the next block. + + + + + + + + + + Everyday. + + + + + + + + + + And he does three shows a day. + + + + + + + + + + Well summertime and holidays, I gets together with a guy that I know, + + + + + + + + + + and we gets a couple of girls maybe and we go out to the beach uh + + + + + + + + + + somewhere + + + + + + + + + + t-uh- + + + + + + + + + + take a little- pack a little picnic lunch. Go down in Rock Creek Park, you know, + + + + + + + + + + [get about] a case of beer or something, + + + + + + + + + + and we just + + + + + + + + + + go out there and have fun, that's all. + + + + + + + + + + Well, Christmas m- usually it + + + + + + + + + + doesn't seem like a real Christmas anymore, since sh- + + + + + + + + + + you know you growed up you know, it's + + + + + + + + + + more of a kid matter, but + + + + + + + + + + I celebrates it you know, like + + + + + + + + + + we all go from different + + + + + + + + + + house to house, people that we know. + + + + + + + + + + And + + + + + + + + + + we'll have a drink here, have a drink there. You know, it's the + + + + + + + + + + [that's the] jolly of the thing, you know? + + + + + + + + + + New Years, + + + + + + + + + + same thing, and uh + + + + + + + + + + like Christmas Eve, we'll go to have a big dance that eve, and then we- + + + + + + + + + + from the dance, like get out about two, three o'clock in the morning. Then we go to somebody apartment and finish off til the + + + + + + + + + + daylight comes or something like that. + + + + + + + + + + Man, I got a brand new Columbia bicycle. Mm! + + + + + + + + + + I ever /did want/ dreamed of one, + + + + + + + + + + and I finally got one. + + + + + + + + + + Yes indeed. I was crazy about it because + + + + + + + + + + it was back when they- + + + + + + + + + + when they came out with I think it was- was + + + + + + + + + + forty eight. + + + + + + + + + + When you tapped the breaks and the back [light would], ch- + + + + + + + + + + jumps on and aw man, that's- that's + + + + + + + + + + the year I had one. Mm! + + + + + + + + + + [It was really something.] + + + + + + + + + + You should seen it, I used to wash it and shine every day + + + + + + + + + + until it got kind of old, you know but [<laugh>.] + + + + + + + + + + Oh, we uh + + + + + + + + + + goes out there, we + + + + + + + + + + get all the stuff on our face, you know, and + + + + + + + + + + if you don't have a mask or nothing of the kind like that, just get any kind of old costume. I probably put on a l- + + + + + + + + + + on a lady's dress with a hat or something of [the kind uh.] And a handbag, you know, + + + + + + + + + + high heel shoes on. + + + + + + + + + + We'd go around the- from door to door cause they'd give us chocolate bars or any kind of candy that they, those soft /mallow/ candies and stuff like that. + + + + + + + + + + Well, I really can't say uh- + + + + + + + + + + Oh, when we had an accident once uh, + + + + + + + + + + we just + + + + + + + + + + all + + + + + + + + + + partying you know, and + + + + + + + + + + coming from the beach. + + + + + + + + + + The driver was lit up, we was lit up, + + + + + + + + + + and we turned over on this bridge. + + + + + + + + + + And we + + + + + + + + + + turned over three times and bent the rail. Just a little bit more impact of it, and we would have dropped about a hundred and fifty feet down in water. + + + + + + + + + + [That's] the only thing really scared me. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + This- this really scared me, and another thing that scared me, I was sitting up at the nightclub here about- + + + + + + + + + + Cecilia's night club, + + + + + + + + + + about, I'll say about + + + + + + + + + + it's been about three weeks ago. + + + + + + + + + + And this girl came in there, + + + + + + + + + + and she and this guy got to arguing. + + + + + + + + + + They arguing over my shoulder. + + + + + + + + + + [She pulls out] a German luger. + + + + + + + + + + [I'm sitting right there in the middle.] He pulls out a twenty five automatic. Oh you should seen everybody got out of there. + + + + + + + + + + [I got out of-] I dropped to the floor. I fell back and dropped to the floor. Let them shoot each other. + + + + + + + + + + Huh? + + + + + + + + + + She- she sho- shot somebody. I don't know really, say I gotta there. I didn't want to know. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + That r- that really scared me. + + + + + + + + + + I looked this way, she got a German luger. I look this way, he got a twenty five automatic. + + + + + + + + + + I got out of there. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + Well, it- I got so used to seeing uh + + + + + + + + + + things like this. Like people getting sh- shot, + + + + + + + + + + cut up, + + + + + + + + + + stuff like that. Li- th- like the funniest thing I seen once + + + + + + + + + + but I didn't know they was that serious. + + + + + + + + + + Two guys + + + + + + + + + + right here down here on Ninth and O, which is a dangerous place. I don't even hang out around there. + + + + + + + + + + But this- at this particular time, I seen it, + + + + + + + + + + they tied each other + + + + + + + + + + with a leather belt, + + + + + + + + + + they wrist together, + + + + + + + + + + and pulled out they blade, and they start cutting each other, and cut each other to death. + + + + + + + + + + I never seen nothing like it. + + + + + + + + + + And I s- I say another thing I seen. I seen a guy got shot over a penny in a crap game. + + + + + + + + + + One penny. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Well I've been around + + + + + + + + + + in the + + + + + + + + + + rough sections of + + + + + + + + + + places, + + + + + + + + + + you know. + + + + + + + + + + But I always + + + + + + + + + + maintain my cools. I don't go there. I don't get hot headed. If a guy + + + + + + + + + + say uh, look buddy, or he wants to start a frolic, I said, look, + + + + + + + + + + I say, I don't wanna + + + + + + + + + + have nothing, no fight, or no frolic, or nothing like this. I say, + + + + + + + + + + doesn't make no sense to me. + + + + + + + + + + I say, this kind of stuff, we could talk over. + + + + + + + + + + I say, after all, I didn't did anything to you. You came up to me wanna say something. Like, know you + + + + + + + + + + sitting down, a guy he come by, and + + + + + + + + + + he probably might- + + + + + + + + + + my feet might have been in the aisle a little bit too much. He trip. You know, what you trying to do? + + + + + + + + + + Mash it off or something? or you know, so. <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + No, any little, some + + + + + + + + + + people just go around just trying to make excuse + + + + + + + + + + [just to] start something, you know. + + + + + + + + + + But I never did, you know, + + + + + + + + + + like it. Go for it really. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Okay, uh /RD-NAME-2/ when you were younger, what kinds of + + + + + + + + + + games did you play? Say, when you- with the little kids in the neighborhood? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? How- c- you do a lot of swimming when you grew up? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? [Do you-] + + + + + + + + + + do you race or anything when you swim or ya? + + + + + + + + + + Or are just swim for fun? + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + How about uh the other games that kids usually play like uh + + + + + + + + + + Hopscotch + + + + + + + + + + or Red Rover or? + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. What kind of, well tell me how you organized your baseball games and stuff. How'd you play? You say you played in the streets. How'd you play? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + That's good. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, + + + + + + + + + + did you ever play organized baseball? + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + How about the marbles? Do you ever play marbles? + + + + + + + + + + I- I never played that. How do you play marbles? + + + + + + + + + + Did ya- do you win marbles or anything? + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + Start fighting the guys, huh? + + + + + + + + + + Good, how bout uh + + + + + + + + + + did you ever play tag or hide and seek? + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> Well how did you decide who was gonna + + + + + + + + + + be it to begin the game? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + That's very good. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, did you ever put your foot in and say uh + + + + + + + + + + eenie meenie miney moe, or one potato, two potato. Ever hear of any of those? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Uh-huh.] + + + + + + + + + + Good. [Real good.] + + + + + + + + + + Any other games you can think of from your childhood that you played that you really liked? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + You're doing pretty good. + + + + + + + + + + How bout uh- + + + + + + + + + + do you watch a lot of TV? + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + Did you watch any last night? + + + + + + + + + + How about + + + + + + + + + + this week? Can you remember any uh, any of the- + + + + + + + + + + shows you saw that you thought were pretty good you could describe to me sir? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Can you tell me about [any of the-] + + + + + + + + + + any of the shows you saw. What happened on 'em? + + + + + + + + + + Can you describe what happened on /?/ say, + + + + + + + + + + last time you saw Gun Smoke, or? + + + + + + + + + + Or one real good time when you saw Gun Smoke? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm] + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah. + + + + + + + + + + [That's fun.] + + + + + + + + + + [Remember] when he got + + + + + + + + + + caught? What happened when they + + + + + + + + + + finally caught the real man? + + + + + + + + + + [Remember that?] + + + + + + + + + + [Yeah.] + + + + + + + + + + That's good. How about movies? You go to movies a lot? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Oh, what's that about? I've heard about [it.] + + + + + + + + + + [What happened?] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm. + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + [Yeah.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [<laughs>] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> You- + + + + + + + + + + you tell it good too. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> Is that- + + + + + + + + + + is that the best movie you ever saw? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + What would you say is the best movie you ever saw? + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. Okay, good. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, + + + + + + + + + + do you have a pet, or did you ever have a pet when you were younger? + + + + + + + + + + You know, a dog or- + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + Is there any other pets? + + + + + + + + + + Say when you were y- + + + + + + + + + + Good. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, tell me about your school. What did you study? What + + + + + + + + + + kinds of subjects? What did the kids do in school [exactly?] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-yeah.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Yeah. + + + + + + + + + + [Yeah.] + + + + + + + + + + [What did you play?] Half back? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + You pretty good? + + + + + + + + + + Is there- how much you weigh? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + Pretty good. + + + + + + + + + + How about uh + + + + + + + + + + when you were in school, did you ever remember a teacher that hollered a lot or anything? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm] + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> [Did they let you] sit wherever you want to sit or-? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + I always had assigned seats. You know, they give you a seat, and you have to sit there. + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + How about uh, can you remember a, a trick that kids played on the teacher or anything? + + + + + + + + + + What happened? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Good. + + + + + + + + + + How about um + + + + + + + + + + are there- g- a bunch of guys you go around with now or that you can remember you went around with? + + + + + + + + + + What do you do to get /??/? + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + [You a pretty good] dancer? + + + + + + + + + + /unintelligible/ You got real soul. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + I've tried some of those moves before. I'm bad, ooh. + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? 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Or, + + + + + + + + + + or what? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Alright, good. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, is- in your- in the group of people you go around with, is there any one person that's kind of leader, everybody listens to him? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + You- you s- + + + + + + + + + + [Yeah.] + + + + + + + + + + Good. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah you + + + + + + + + + + you're a good conversationalist. I'll /say/ that. + + + + + + + + + + One of the best I've had <laugh>. That's good. + + + + + + + + + + Uh + + + + + + + + + + say if you had to + + + + + + + + + + live life all over again. What would you do with it? Anything? Anything you'd do differently or? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + What's so + + + + + + + + + + neat about + + + + + + + + + + being a musician [/inaudible/?] + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + You ever go uh + + + + + + + + + + over to Howard Theater? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + there + + + + + + + + + + some swinging groups over there? + + + + + + + + + + Is that where he's going to be [Sunday?] + + + + + + + + + + Is that- what time does that start? + + + + + + + + + + [Is that- Is this] this uh special + + + + + + + + + + programming /inaudible/? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + [I] think I might make that. + + + + + + + + + + What time does it start? + + + + + + + + + + Is that- you think we'll pack it out? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + [/inaudible/] + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + [/inaudible/] + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + Is that ri- + + + + + + + + + + Yeah that's wild. + + + + + + + + + + How about uh + + + + + + + + + + the holidays? How do you celebrate the holidays around- + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + [Uh-huh.] + + + + + + + + + + How about Christmas? Anything? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Yeah.] + + + + + + + + + + How- can you remember when you were little, + + + + + + + + + + what was the best present you ever got? Can you remember? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Oh yeah?] + + + + + + + + + + /inaudible/ + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + [/inaudible/] + + + + + + + + + + That's great. + + + + + + + + + + How about uh + + + + + + + + + + Halloween? What did you do Halloween? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Hm. Oh yeah. + + + + + + + + + + How about, you ever been in a situation you thought, oh man this is it. I'm gonna- I've had it now. I'm gonna die now? + + + + + + + + + + Like in a car or something, you know. + + + + + + + + + + Is that [right?] + + + + + + + + + + When you think, man this is it. [I'm gonna] die now. + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + Mm. [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? [<laugh> Were you /inaudible/] + + + + + + + + + + And so what'd you do [when /inaudible/?] + + + + + + + + + + Did they shoot? + + + + + + + + + + They shoot? + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + Well I- + + + + + + + + + + Man, that's wild. + + + + + + + + + + Some people say, eh, whatever's gonna happen, gonna happen anyhow. What do you think about that? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm. + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + Is that right? + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + Penny for your life. + + + + + + + + + + That's a <laugh>, that's a /lot/ for your life man. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Yeah] + + + + + + + + + + + + + +