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So, + + + + + + + + + + you gotta follow yourself and follow the light. + + + + + + + + + + She /went from/ big mad + + + + + + + + + + bully. + + + + + + + + + + Nothing. + + + + + + + + + + Like, + + + + + + + + + + about two or three of the children /??/ + + + + + + + + + + probably /lasted/ to 'em, say, you can't play with me. + + + + + + + + + + But I tell 'em who they could play with me. + + + + + + + + + + <ts> + + + + + + + + + + Cause all us is human beings. + + + + + + + + + + No. + + + + + + + + + + Um, I can't think of the name but you do research work. + + + + + + + + + + [You know], + + + + + + + + + + go through different states and + + + + + + + + + + find out about the people, + + + + + + + + + + /and all, like that/. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm, no. + + + + + + + + + + Um, + + + + + + + + + + I think it take long. + + + + + + + + + + About + + + + + + + + + + three years. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah. + + + + + + + + + + Right now? + + + + + + + + + + I'll go to /Horn's/ shoe shop and buy me a pair of Hush Puppies. + + + + + + + + + + Then go to /??/ Shops and buy me a pair of /??/ and a shell + + + + + + + + + + and a winter coat. + + + + + + + + + + And boots to match. And give my mother some money. + + + + + + + + + + <ts> I'd give my brothers and sisters. + + + + + + + + + + I'd go buy the groceries for this week. + + + + + + + + + + I'd give it all the rest of it to my grandmother. + + + + + + + + + + What holidays? Like Thanksgiving? + + + + + + + + + + [My ma-] + + + + + + + + + + Oh. + + + + + + + + + + <ts> + + + + + + + + + + Well for Thanksgiving my mother go buy about + + + + + + + + + + Forty pound turkey and so many ounces. + + + + + + + + + + We have five, + + + + + + + + + + and my mother and my [father.] + + + + + + + + + + [Christmas Eve?] + + + + + + + + + + Um, + + + + + + + + + + my mother put up our Christmas tree before Christmas Eve. + + + + + + + + + + About two days before and we decorate it and- + + + + + + + + + + and put the /presents/ under. Then on Christmas Eve, the /present/ she had bought us, + + + + + + + + + + she put it under there. + + + + + + + + + + And then the next morning- + + + + + + + + + + Now I guess the card that you have to put together for me- + + + + + + + + + + For my little brother that's + + + + + + + + + + five years old /inaudible/. + + + + + + + + + + <ts> + + + + + + + + + + And then we- you eat ham or whatever it is for dinner, + + + + + + + + + + Then we might go somewhere like + + + + + + + + + + to /RD-ADDRESS-3/ to see my aunt. + + + + + + + + + + [No.] + + + + + + + + + + [/I knows it/.] + + + + + + + + + + No I'm stay woke sometimes + + + + + + + + + + cause I think about all the year, all the things that I have done that's bad [and good.] + + + + + + + + + + That's it, I ain't getting nothing. So- + + + + + + + + + + So- + + + + + + + + + + Yeah. + + + + + + + + + + Hm. <ts> + + + + + + + + + + A steering bike. + + + + + + + + + + <ts> It's a new kind of bike. It's a /mini by ??/ big thing on the back and /steering out the back/. + + + + + + + + + + It cost fifty nine + + + + + + + + + + ninety five. + + + + + + + + + + I wanna [show off on it.] + + + + + + + + + + Maroon. + + + + + + + + + + You mean when I get way up there? + + + + + + + + + + When I get a s- + + + + + + + + + + in the seventh grade + + + + + + + + + + or when January the first come, + + + + + + + + + + when I make my revolutions, + + + + + + + + + + I'm going to say + + + + + + + + + + that I'm going to try harder, + + + + + + + + + + and just like one of my teachers told me in school, + + + + + + + + + + go up the ladder instead of come down the ladder. + + + + + + + + + + Start on the first step and go to the last. + + + + + + + + + + [I don't pay no] attention to 'em + + + + + + + + + + [cause I don't think] nobody knows in this world what's going to happen but God. + + + + + + + + + + So, sometimes I /say/ + + + + + + + + + + it might gonna happen, + + + + + + + + + + so I just have to wait til that time come and see. + + + + + + + + + + Cause + + + + + + + + + + can't go by everybody's word. + + + + + + + + + + The one that said + + + + + + + + + + um, + + + + + + + + + + um, the first one. + + + + + + + + + + [It was] his time. + + + + + + + + + + Cause when you die, + + + + + + + + + + it's your- it's really your time to go. + + + + + + + + + + [Cause] the /other ones is normal/. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Okay, /RD-NAME-2/. The first thing we want to know from you + + + + + + + + + + is what games do you play when you + + + + + + + + + + playing with- + + + + + + + + + + with the kids around here? + + + + + + + + + + With your friends and all [/inaudible/.] + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, a group game. + + + + + + + + + + [/No/, outside.] + + + + + + + + + + You ever play any games where one kid have to chase everybody else? + + + + + + + + + + /Any kind of game, even like a /inaudible//. + + + + + + + + + + How do you play Scrabble? + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah? + + + + + + + + + + [How do you] make the words? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + What's Anagrams? <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + [I don't know] much about games. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + What do you make words with? + + + + + + + + + + I mean what do [you]- ? + + + + + + + + + + Oh. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Oh that's good. + + + + + + + + + + Do you ever play a game where- When you're outside, do you ever play a game where + + + + + + + + + + uh, one kid has to + + + + + + + + + + hide his eyes and then everybody go hide? + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah? + + + + + + + + + + How old- + + + + + + + + + + About how old are you when you + + + + + + + + + + get over age for that? + + + + + + + + + + around here? + + + + + + + + + + Mm, well you're just about over age then huh? <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + At twelve. + + + + + + + + + + Well how did you play it when you were younger? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Good. + + + + + + + + + + Well did you ever play that game where one kid chase everybody? + + + + + + + + + + Oh that's interesting, huh. + + + + + + + + + + Did you ever play tag? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. That sound like a good game. + + + + + + + + + + Say, you know any more of them little uh, songs like you sing to pick people who was it beside my Mother, Your Mother. + + + + + + + + + + Is there any other ones? + + + + + + + + + + Do you know one potato? + + + + + + + + + + Hm, that's the one I used to use as a kid. + + + + + + + + + + Mm, good. + + + + + + + + + + Do you ever play a game called, may I? + + + + + + + + + + How did that go? + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + Now what happens if he goes and doesn't say, may I? + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [/unintelligible/] + + + + + + + + + + Good. + + + + + + + + + + What's your favorite TV program? + + + + + + + + + + Gidget huh? + + + + + + + + + + What happened on Gidget? + + + + + + + + + + I mean the last time you saw it, that you remember. + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + And was that the end? + + + + + + + + + + How did it end [then?] + + + + + + + + + + Oh. + + + + + + + + + + They found out that she didn't cheat, huh? + + + + + + + + + + Mm, good. + + + + + + + + + + Oh good. + + + + + + + + + + What other TV show do you like? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Do you remember one of those programs that was good? + + + + + + + + + + How did that go? + + + + + + + + + + Sometimes it's hard to remember. + + + + + + + + + + Aunt Bee? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + That's good. You remembered that one. Yeah. + + + + + + + + + + Have you seen a movie that you liked that you could tell about? + + + + + + + + + + What's that? + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. Do you remember how that went? + + + + + + + + + + Tell me about it. + + + + + + + + + + [Oh yeah?] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Do you have a pet at home? + + + + + + + + + + You don't? Why not? + + + + + + + + + + Don't like dogs? + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh> Why not?] + + + + + + + + + + Were you ever bitten by a dog? + + + + + + + + + + [Oh yeah?] + + + + + + + + + + How- + + + + + + + + + + Did you get away? + + + + + + + + + + Were you scared? + + + + + + + + + + You did? (laughing) How come he chased you? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + How did you tease him? + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + Oh, that was nice of 'em. They should have stayed and helped their friend (laughing). + + + + + + + + + + Was it a big dog? + + + + + + + + + + Oh man. Those get big. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, you like my wife. She scared of dogs too. + + + + + + + + + + I don't blame you. + + + + + + + + + + Did you ever have a pet at home? + + + + + + + + + + A cat or [anything? A parakeet?] + + + + + + + + + + Nothing like that? + + + + + + + + + + Well that's good. + + + + + + + + + + How about when you go to- where you go to school. What do you study in school? + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, what's your favorite subject? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Do [you like that stuff?] + + + + + + + + + + What are you studying in Social Studies now? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + What's interesting about Canada? + + + + + + + + + + Let me see if you know some- I'll kind- What two languages do they speak? + + + + + + + + + + Some of 'em. Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mostly what? + + + + + + + + + + English. + + + + + + + + + + You could go there and understand everybody. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + [/unintelligible/.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + What's a worse subject you don't like? + + + + + + + + + + Why not? + + + + + + + + + + Is that what the teacher get on you for? + + + + + + + + + + [/Really?/] + + + + + + + + + + [/inaudible/.] + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + Yeah that makes it /?/. + + + + + + + + + + Tell me this /RD-NAME-2/. Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot? + + + + + + + + + + Hollered at the kids. + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah? + + + + + + + + + + How come the teacher hollered? + + + + + + + + + + Oh. + + + + + + + + + + She was what? + + + + + + + + + + [Oh.] + + + + + + + + + + Really? + + + + + + + + + + No kidding. + + + + + + + + + + [Gee] whiz. + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> I bet you did. + + + + + + + + + + /inaudible/ + + + + + + + + + + Did she come back? [Or did some] other teacher bring you in or- ? + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah? Well happened at eleven thirty? + + + + + + + + + + Did they make you go back in? Or did you go in by [yourself?] + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + That's funny. Are you on half days? + + + + + + + + + + Or were you on half days? + + + + + + + + + + No? + + + + + + + + + + But you went home anyway, hm? + + + + + + + + + + No kidding. + + + + + + + + + + What did- Did she holler too? + + + + + + + + + + [/The same day/.] + + + + + + + + + + What does she holler about? + + + + + + + + + + Did she ever holler at you? + + + + + + + + + + What for? + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah? + + + + + + + + + + Was it fair, do you think? + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + Oh (laughing). She thought that was mix match huh? + + + + + + + + + + [Oh I] see. + + + + + + + + + + That's the way the big kids do it. + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + Well you can't expect a teacher to know what- + + + + + + + + + + what's what (laughing) anyway, can you? + + + + + + + + + + How about the best teacher you ever had? + + + + + + + + + + [Have you] /thought about it/? + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm.] + + + + + + + + + + Oh, that's [/good/.] + + + + + + + + + + Is that what they get after you for now? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + /I used to like/ to chew in school. I don't do that anymore, but I /unintelligible/. + + + + + + + + + + What about your third grade teacher? What was so great about her? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + That's very nice. + + + + + + + + + + Did you ever have a teacher you just couldn't stand? + + + + + + + + + + What was so bad about her? + + + + + + + + + + Is that the same one you [told me about?] + + + + + + + + + + /Didn't the other kids like her or- ?/ + + + + + + + + + + Mm. + + + + + + + + + + Okay. + + + + + + + + + + Did the kids in your class ever play a trick on + + + + + + + + + + a teacher when you were in the class? + + + + + + + + + + What happened? + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + And what did she say? + + + + + + + + + + She get mad? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + Uh, that's pretty good. + + + + + + + + + + Oh, /RD-NAME-2/, could I ask you not to + + + + + + + + + + hang on to the microphone. + + + + + + + + + + You should hear some of the tape, cause it sound like + + + + + + + + + + <makes pretend tape rustling noises> all the while cause the mic is so close to your hand. + + + + + + + + + + Okay, I know it turned the wrong way, but they can- I can still hear you when I listen. + + + + + + + + + + Okay, another question. + + + + + + + + + + Is it a bunch of kids that you always hang around with and do things with? + + + + + + + + + + Oh. + + + + + + + + + + Who's that? + + + + + + + + + + One of the kids that's here? + + + + + + + + + + Yeah. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + I don't suppose any of the kids you know speak any foregin languages, do they? + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Uh-huh. + + + + + + + + + + Did they speak Spanish? + + + + + + + + + + Oh. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Is there any white kids that you play with? + + + + + + + + + + Oh yeah? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [Is] that right? + + + + + + + + + + Well you got a lot of different kinds in this class then huh? + + + + + + + + + + That's good. + + + + + + + + + + Is it any one person in the kids you play with that everybody listen to, and + + + + + + + + + + say that they're the leader and all that stuff? + + + + + + + + + + Oh. + + + + + + + + + + You didn't? Why not? + + + + + + + + + + That's good advice. + + + + + + + + + + Now what was there about /RD-NAME-2/ that made everybody do what she say? + + + + + + + + + + Oh. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + What if a new kid moved in your neighborhood and wanted to play with you all? What would they + + + + + + + + + + have to do? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + They don't have do nothing special or + + + + + + + + + + go through the gauntlet or anything? + + + + + + + + + + Oh that's nice. + + + + + + + + + + What do you wanna be when you get out of school, /RD-NAME-2/? Have you ever thought about that? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + [/Oh yeah?/] + + + + + + + + + + Something like the som- Social Studies stuff. + + + + + + + + + + That's good. How long does it take + + + + + + + + + + to be one of those? + + + + + + + + + + [Do you know?] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + After you get out of high school? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + If you had all the money you wanted in the world, what would you do with it? + + + + + + + + + + Right now. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. What if you still had a whole lot left over? + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + What if you still had some left over? + + + + + + + + + + What if it was still some left over? + + + + + + + + + + Oh, that's nice. + + + + + + + + + + That's good. + + + + + + + + + + How does your family celebrate the holidays? + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and all of 'em. [Especially] Christmas. + + + + + + + + + + Really? + + + + + + + + + + /Gee/, that's a big one. How big is your family? + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + What do you do on Christmas? + + + + + + + + + + Say, start with Christmas Eve. Then tell me everything you do + + + + + + + + + + [until Christmas] night. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + What about at night? Do you get to sleep at Christmas Eve or? + + + + + + + + + + [Do you] sneak? <laugh> [Do you stay /awoke/?] <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + [<laugh>] + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + But you always do, don't you? + + + + + + + + + + That's good. + + + + + + + + + + Okay, what- what was the best Christmas present you ever got? + + + + + + + + + + Now let me ask it this- or this way- + + + + + + + + + + What if you had a real rich relative or something, and they wanted you- + + + + + + + + + + wanted to get you something. What would you ask for? + + + + + + + + + + What's that? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + You've looked into that huh? <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + What's so good about them that you would want /??/? + + + + + + + + + + [/inaudible/] + + + + + + + + + + Just like the looks of it, huh? + + + + + + + + + + What color would you want? + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Well, that's good. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-kay, now that you + + + + + + + + + + starting into your teens, what- + + + + + + + + + + what are you going to do different that you didn't do when you y- were little? + + + + + + + + + + In general. + + + + + + + + + + What kind of games- I mean what kind of- + + + + + + + + + + After school, what are you going to do now that you didn't do before? + + + + + + + + + + No I mean- Well like right now or like when you get to be thirteen. <throat clear> + + + + + + + + + + That's good. + + + + + + + + + + Okay. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, + + + + + + + + + + /here's a/ more kind of a serious question. + + + + + + + + + + So sometime you hear people that whatever gonna happen is gonna happen. + + + + + + + + + + And nothing you can do about it. What do you think about that? + + + + + + + + + + [?] + + + + + + + + + + [/You don't care?] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + /Well suppose you're/- + + + + + + + + + + Suppose it was a little boy + + + + + + + + + + that you knew or something, + + + + + + + + + + and uh, + + + + + + + + + + he went out + + + + + + + + + + and got hit by a truck and killed. + + + + + + + + + + And one person say, + + + + + + + + + + well, + + + + + + + + + + it was gonna happen. It was his time. + + + + + + + + + + And so he got killed. Another person say, well he should have been more careful. Which one would you agree with? + + + + + + + + + + [??] + + + + + + + + + + [Mm-hm.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Oh, you're a good thinking + + + + + + + + + + girl, /RD-NAME-2/. You think about a lot of things. + + + + + + + + + + + + + +