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Uh, they told him they robbed banks, you know. + + + + + + + + + + He was working at a gas station and he was real good in fixing cars, so + + + + + + + + + + they picked him up so he can help fix the car that they stole. + + + + + + + + + + And then he v- he- she- he uh, robbed the + + + + + + + + + + uh, gas station that he was working at. + + + + + + + + + + And it was three of 'em, Bonnie and Clyde. + + + + + + + + + + So they met up with + + + + + + + + + + Clyde's brother and his wife. + + + + + + + + + + And she was one of the /shake it/ type, you know. + + + + + + + + + + His wife and his brother. + + + + + + + + + + They was all- all f- five of 'em was in a house together. + + + + + + + + + + And his wife and his brother + + + + + + + + + + got killed by the uh, policeman. + + + + + + + + + + And then they went on robbing. + + + + + + + + + + Then they went back to uh, Clyde- I mean uh, + + + + + + + + + + uh- + + + + + + + + + + I think it was JD Moss, something like that. + + + + + + + + + + They went back to his home town + + + + + + + + + + and stayed at his father's house. + + + + + + + + + + And it was a big reward out for him, so um, + + + + + + + + + + his father told him that he- + + + + + + + + + + told + + + + + + + + + + uh, Moss that he was gonna + + + + + + + + + + turn Bonnie and Clyde in. + + + + + + + + + + And s- + + + + + + + + + + you know, next job they sposta let him know, so he can turn 'em in and get the reward. + + + + + + + + + + And you know, + + + + + + + + + + then when he turn- when the police came, that he + + + + + + + + + + hid + + + + + + + + + + so he wouldn't get caught and + + + + + + + + + + you know, they would give him life sentence. + + + + + + + + + + And so um, + + + + + + + + + + they robbed the bank and- + + + + + + + + + + and Moss didn't come back with 'em. + + + + + + + + + + And + + + + + + + + + + The father was e- o- out on the highway with his truck broke down on purpose + + + + + + + + + + to stop 'em and + + + + + + + + + + then they- when they stopped, + + + + + + + + + + the police all came out of the bushes and everything, + + + + + + + + + + killed 'em with machine guns, shot guns, everything. + + + + + + + + + + They shot 'em up real bad. + + + + + + + + + + [Uh-huh.] + + + + + + + + + + Yeah. + + + + + + + + + + Mm, cat + + + + + + + + + + and a hamster. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, it's not mine but it's my little brother's. + + + + + + + + + + We have a + + + + + + + + + + cage for the hamster stay in and uh, + + + + + + + + + + you, you know, keep paper in the cage. + + + + + + + + + + And you know, + + + + + + + + + + keep him fed and watered and just about every week. + + + + + + + + + + It's f- uh, hamster food. It's food special for [hamster.] + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm, we had two. One of 'em died. + + + + + + + + + + [I think he had] two male or two female. You know, never did have no children + + + + + + + + + + you know, /pet/. + + + + + + + + + + Cause + + + + + + + + + + they had 'em about a year before the one died. + + + + + + + + + + Then he went and got another one, and it still was two- + + + + + + + + + + And it still must have been two males or + + + + + + + + + + two females cause they still didn't have no children. + + + + + + + + + + And you know, they always was fighting at night. + + + + + + + + + + [And they] run all night and play- You know, sleep all day. + + + + + + + + + + Tom. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, quite often. <laugh> + + + + + + + + + + Let me think. + + + + + + + + + + Comes up in the room, get in the bed, + + + + + + + + + + you know, jumps up in the window on the screen, + + + + + + + + + + runs back down, you know, + + + + + + + + + + runs all the time. + + + + + + + + + + Uh-uh. + + + + + + + + + + Um, keep him in. + + + + + + + + + + Usually let- take him out in the day time. + + + + + + + + + + You- you know, he's still a kitten. + + + + + + + + + + Um, + + + + + + + + + + cat food, + + + + + + + + + + milk, + + + + + + + + + + and water sometime. + + + + + + + + + + He very seldom drink water. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Um, + + + + + + + + + + English, Math, + + + + + + + + + + s- Geography and Civics + + + + + + + + + + and you know, it's two periods of shop. + + + + + + + + + + General shop. That's it. You know, you take up anything you- you want [to.] + + + + + + + + + + At /RD-SCHOOL-1/. + + + + + + + + + + I think this was English and a language and + + + + + + + + + + s- No, it was- + + + + + + + + + + Elementary was different from, you know, high school. + + + + + + + + + + It was + + + + + + + + + + you know, mostly, + + + + + + + + + + you know, you stay in one class all day. + + + + + + + + + + And she would give you m- maybe + + + + + + + + + + Arithmetic in the morning, + + + + + + + + + + Spelling, + + + + + + + + + + and maybe Reading. + + + + + + + + + + That's in the morning. After lunch, he'll probably give you + + + + + + + + + + Language and + + + + + + + + + + some other- Maybe Art in the evening. + + + + + + + + + + Or Music. + + + + + + + + + + Mm- + + + + + + + + + + <clears throat> + + + + + + + + + + We usually + + + + + + + + + + get out of school, run around, you go in the store. + + + + + + + + + + You know, jive around the store and come on out. + + + + + + + + + + Play about a hour before we went home. + + + + + + + + + + That was a group I, you know, was with. Some of them went right home. + + + + + + + + + + A whole lot of times we stay around, and play around the school. + + + + + + + + + + Chase the girls. + + + + + + + + + + Then we finally + + + + + + + + + + end up home. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, they- they do about the same thing. I say that cause my little brother- You know, I have a little brother still in elementary, + + + + + + + + + + and he do about the same thing I did. + + + + + + + + + + Mm, usually go home or + + + + + + + + + + stay on a corners or, you know. + + + + + + + + + + Mm, go play basketball. You know, + + + + + + + + + + anything or + + + + + + + + + + most of 'em, you know- some- + + + + + + + + + + some have jobs after school. + + + + + + + + + + And go on a job. + + + + + + + + + + Mm, let me see. Mm, (whispered) + + + + + + + + + + yeah, I got one now. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, + + + + + + + + + + just you know- I think she just holler to hear herself holler, [tell the truth.] + + + + + + + + + + Cause you [know-] + + + + + + + + + + Come into class and, + + + + + + + + + + sit down! + + + + + + + + + + You leave and, + + + + + + + + + + get in line! You know, anything just to holler. I think just to hear herself holler. + + + + + + + + + + Mm- + + + + + + + + + + Mm, once or twice, you know. + + + + + + + + + + I say she was fair. + + + + + + + + + + I know one time she was fair, you know. + + + + + + + + + + It was one of the days + + + + + + + + + + everybody having fun. I think it- + + + + + + + + + + Soon as it started getting warm this year, we- You know, how you go into class [after] playing basketball. + + + + + + + + + + And you warm, you know, + + + + + + + + + + and you know how you get to [talking.] + + + + + + + + + + You know, I guess she + + + + + + + + + + you know, + + + + + + + + + + let- wanted let us know before it got + + + + + + + + + + any hotter this- in this year, that you know, + + + + + + + + + + where she- where she stood at you know. + + + + + + + + + + Mm, let me see. + + + + + + + + + + That's my Civics teacher. + + + + + + + + + + Miss /RD-NAME-2/. + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm- + + + + + + + + + + I like her because she take time, you know, + + + + + + + + + + to teach, and + + + + + + + + + + she devote all her time to her students, you know. + + + + + + + + + + Like she have uh, + + + + + + + + + + lunch period + + + + + + + + + + and a free period. + + + + + + + + + + And if you not here one day, she'll tell you. + + + + + + + + + + The following day, + + + + + + + + + + you see her on the free period + + + + + + + + + + or at lunch period. + + + + + + + + + + And you know, about your subject, + + + + + + + + + + or you can come after school, and she'll help you make out for what you missed. + + + + + + + + + + Mm. + + + + + + + + + + Let me see. + + + + + + + + + + Miss /RD-NAME-3/. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, why? + + + + + + + + + + Uh, she w- + + + + + + + + + + You know, I think, you know, she was + + + + + + + + + + prejudice something, you know. + + + + + + + + + + She- + + + + + + + + + + She- I was, you know- + + + + + + + + + + Is it- Is it alright talk about, you know, + + + + + + + + + + [race?] + + + + + + + + + + You know, it's- + + + + + + + + + + I was uh- + + + + + + + + + + uh- + + + + + + + + + + It was me and another Negro in her class. + + + + + + + + + + A white- + + + + + + + + + + And the rest, you know, was white children. + + + + + + + + + + And, you know, + + + + + + + + + + she called me and him + + + + + + + + + + Double Trouble, + + + + + + + + + + you know. + + + + + + + + + + We don't do this and don't do that. + + + + + + + + + + You know, and one time, + + + + + + + + + + you know, she gave me a F, so my mother told me, you know, + + + + + + + + + + save my- all my work that I did. You know, I told her, I- I had work that I did last time, you know, a notebook full of work. + + + + + + + + + + So she told me just keep it in order in this time, you know. + + + + + + + + + + And- + + + + + + + + + + And when she- If she gave me another F next time, you know, show her. + + + + + + + + + + So every paper I did, I dated, + + + + + + + + + + and you know, + + + + + + + + + + put the date on it + + + + + + + + + + and the grade was on it that she put on it. And you know, + + + + + + + + + + did book reports, put the date on that, + + + + + + + + + + and you know, she + + + + + + + + + + graded. + + + + + + + + + + And every- And you know, then when she failed me again, + + + + + + + + + + you know, I took it home, and then my mother took it to the office, you know. + + + + + + + + + + And then they looked at it, and then they called it in. + + + + + + + + + + And she said it was a mistake. + + + + + + + + + + Hm. + + + + + + + + + + Mm. + + + + + + + + + + Let me see, last year it was. + + + + + + + + + + I believe it was April Fool's Day. + + + + + + + + + + Put a um, + + + + + + + + + + tacks on a piece of tape + + + + + + + + + + and + + + + + + + + + + teacher sat on it. + + + + + + + + + + /Let me see/. + + + + + + + + + + And uh, + + + + + + + + + + you- I don't know, I guess it was no- Really- + + + + + + + + + + One- one instance, I don't think it was really a joke on- + + + + + + + + + + of any type, you know. + + + + + + + + + + Teacher failed a kid, and uh, + + + + + + + + + + he took uh- + + + + + + + + + + took all the tires off her car. + + + + + + + + + + You know, when she- + + + + + + + + + + And you know, still did- You know, he didn't take 'em off. He uns- loosened all the wheel, + + + + + + + + + + and I think somebody told her before she drove off. + + + + + + + + + + I think it- You know, + + + + + + + + + + she never did find out who did it, but you know. + + + + + + + + + + Somebody told her that it- + + + + + + + + + + think somebody had took the wheels loose. + + + + + + + + + + Oh, the teacher, she sat on 'em, but + + + + + + + + + + <laugh> she is kind of hot. She + + + + + + + + + + said she was gonna fail everybody in class, but I think sh- you know, + + + + + + + + + + she found out who did it, and I think he was put out of school. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, it was uh- + + + + + + + + + + Believe it was four of us, I think. + + + + + + + + + + It was + + + + + + + + + + me and + + + + + + + + + + three other boys always were together. + + + + + + + + + + After school, during school, + + + + + + + + + + Saturday, Sundays. + + + + + + + + + + Went to show together, you know. + + + + + + + + + + And a + + + + + + + + + + couple of girl- We had a girlfriend. + + + + + + + + + + Mm, we uh- mostly we got in trouble together. + + + + + + + + + + If one of us in trouble, you know, + + + + + + + + + + all of us was in it. + + + + + + + + + + You know, wasn't no real trouble but you're not- + + + + + + + + + + /Yeah, I mean, young/. + + + + + + + + + + And + + + + + + + + + + you always took + + + + + + + + + + n- + + + + + + + + + + calling ourselves big boys and you know, + + + + + + + + + + went to movies with the girls. + + + + + + + + + + Never did pay they way in. Alway- You know, j- + + + + + + + + + + they- + + + + + + + + + + We met 'em at the movies and made sure they was in before we got there. + + + + + + + + + + Nah. + + + + + + + + + + Think it wasn't that way really. + + + + + + + + + + We always looked up to one of 'em, you know. It was + + + + + + + + + + the oldest one. + + + + + + + + + + That was /RD-NAME-2/. + + + + + + + + + + We always looked up to him. + + + + + + + + + + Cause he was you know, biggest- + + + + + + + + + + biggest of us. + + + + + + + + + + See when I was in elementary school, I weighed + + + + + + + + + + a hundred eighty pounds. + + + + + + + + + + And you know, now I'm weighing in at one five- + + + + + + + + + + Um, I mean one hundred fifty five. + + + + + + + + + + And five eleven, you know, I was about + + + + + + + + + + four feet two, four feet three. + + + + + + + + + + You know, we- little short fat boy then, [you know.] + + + + + + + + + + Couldn't move around too much. + + + + + + + + + + Mm. + + + + + + + + + + Yeah, it was- + + + + + + + + + + [Yeah he would- he] would- You know he- + + + + + + + + + + He had most ideas at most time, you [know.] + + + + + + + + + + Yeah. + + + + + + + + + + He didn't have to really do it- You know, + + + + + + + + + + /it's a-/ maybe a fight, + + + + + + + + + + see if he can fight or something like that, you know. + + + + + + + + + + And push him around, see if you know, + + + + + + + + + + we call it + + + + + + + + + + and sees if he have any heart. + + + + + + + + + + That's what most people call it. + + + + + + + + + + And if you don't no heart, + + + + + + + + + + you can't, you know, walk with us. + + + + + + + + + + Cause- + + + + + + + + + + Talk- + + + + + + + + + + And really when we was in elementary school, we was + + + + + + + + + + sposta been, you know, + + + + + + + + + + roughest boys there, us four. + + + + + + + + + + You know, in order to hang with us, you had to + + + + + + + + + + be just as [rough.] + + + + + + + + + + And you had to do everything we did or + + + + + + + + + + you know, couldn't tell on us if we did this or couldn't tell if we did that. + + + + + + + + + + Two of 'em. + + + + + + + + + + [Why-] + + + + + + + + + + [I mean I] + + + + + + + + + + still- You know, we [don't hang together.] + + + + + + + + + + We still friends, and you know, + + + + + + + + + + we see each other now and then. One of 'em is a + + + + + + + + + + you know- + + + + + + + + + + He uh, + + + + + + + + + + singing now. + + + + + + + + + + You know, singing with a + + + + + + + + + + group, + + + + + + + + + + and the other one, you know, he's working in the evening at school. + + + + + + + + + + I mean he working during the day and going to school at night. + + + + + + + + + + You know. + + + + + + + + + + And that's- I'm usually with him, + + + + + + + + + + sometime you know- + + + + + + + + + + Most of the time I'm with him. + + + + + + + + + + And the other two- They tell me one of 'em went to Army, + + + + + + + + + + and the other one + + + + + + + + + + you know, he just + + + + + + + + + + grew up fast and you know, + + + + + + + + + + got him a car. + + + + + + + + + + He big time, they say. + + + + + + + + + + It's- + + + + + + + + + + I don't- I don't usually hang with, you know, + + + + + + + + + + a new group of fellas because you know, + + + + + + + + + + I figure I like + + + + + + + + + + uh- go by myself, you know. + + + + + + + + + + Cause you can do what you wanna then. [You don't have to] + + + + + + + + + + say, is it alright? You know, + + + + + + + + + + you wanna do this. You wanna do that. You know, you have to come to agreement. + + + + + + + + + + But when you're by yourself, you know, + + + + + + + + + + okay, you do what you wanna do. You know, you go to this party if you wanna go. You go that party. + + + + + + + + + + You know, like I said- + + + + + + + + + + I hang out over- I stay over in Alexandria + + + + + + + + + + a lot. + + + + + + + + + + You know, I have friends over there but + + + + + + + + + + I usually- + + + + + + + + + + When I'm over there, + + + + + + + + + + I'm usually playing pool or up in the pool room playing pool or + + + + + + + + + + you know, + + + + + + + + + + out with a friend. + + + + + + + + + + We were just you know, hanging around the house. + + + + + + + + + + Mm-hm. + + + + + + + + + + I'm planning on when I get out + + + + + + + + + + of twelfth grade, I'm planning on + + + + + + + + + + going to college. + + + + + + + + + + I'm'a try to get me a scholarhip, you know. + + + + + + + + + + Basketball, football scholarship. + + + + + + + + + + And go to college, and + + + + + + + + + + I really wanna take up- You know, go to law school. + + + + + + + + + + Eight years + + + + + + + + + + in school. + + + + + + + + + + And I think something like + + + + + + + + + + two or three practi- You know. + + + + + + + + + + Well you know, + + + + + + + + + + I like you know, + + + + + + + + + + be around people, you know. + + + + + + + + + + I he- h- + + + + + + + + + + you know, help people a whole lot, + + + + + + + + + + [and] uh, + + + + + + + + + + you know, like I say, + + + + + + + + + + always like to see, you know, + + + + + + + + + + people in- + + + + + + + + + + you know that- that's right- + + + + + + + + + + you know, + + + + + + + + + + be right. I don't like to see nobody punished for nothing they didn't really do. + + + + + + + + + + Or you know, + + + + + + + + + + see 'em get a break once /and that/, you know. + + + + + + + + + + You know. + + + + + + + + + + But /you know/, + + + + + + + + + + I talked to a lawyer one time. + + + + + + + + + + He wasn't a lawyer yet. He was going to law school. + + + + + + + + + + And he tell me, + + + + + + + + + + don't do it. You know, + + + + + + + + + + it's- you know, + + + + + + + + + + don't come to- + + + + + + + + + + Don't go to law school. Do anything but that. Don't go to law school. Be a doctor. + + + + + + + + + + He said it's too long and too hard, the studies, you know. + + + + + + + + + + But I figure like this. If you, you know- it's something you really wanna do- + + + + + + + + + + Like I say, he tell me not to do it, but you know, he still- + + + + + + + + + + still you know, + + + + + + + + + + beating them books. + + + + + + + + + + And but it- You know, he tell me not to do it. + + + + + + + + + + See, but he- + + + + + + + + + + You know, like I said, he wanted to do it, and he wanted to finish it. + + + + + + + + + + So I figure if I wanna do it bad enough, you know, I'll go and start and- and finish it too. + + + + + + + + + + I still play sports. + + + + + + + + + + Uh, football, + + + + + + + + + + basketball. + + + + + + + + + + I play that + + + + + + + + + + the most. And uh, + + + + + + + + + + run track every- + + + + + + + + + + maybe every other year. I + + + + + + + + + + used to play sports for the Boy's Club. + + + + + + + + + + You know. + + + + + + + + + + Let me see. 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