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"content": "As a woman who has followed and been a fan of tons of male commentary channels, including Cody Ko, this sucks. \n\nObv Hasan has other things to cover rn, but I hope to start hearing more men on yt/twitch who have collaborated with him apply some public pressure. ",
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"content": "Y'all are genuinely idiots if you think Hasan is doing a cover up of a guy he barely knows because he's covering the election, he's not a drama guy his content has always been politics first idk why Hasanabi fans have to be the most annoying people on Earth",
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"content": "I don't think a lot of content creators are aware of this either. \n\nI only found out about it myself yesterday cause someone in luds subreddit posted about it. But apparently this is a weeks old situation??",
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"content": "i first found it a month ago on codys subreddit and didn’t really look into it beyond the title, its wild.",
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"content": "Thankfully, Charlie's talked about it now. And Philip DeFranco as well.",
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"content": "yes i’m glad it is coming to people’s attention",
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"content": "I don't really understand why people aren't treating this as worse than the Dr. D crap. He absolutely deserved all the dunking on and trouble that came as a result. But with THis, it feels like people are being wayyyyyyy more even toned and \"wait and see\". What cody did is worse than what Doc did idk why people aren't going harder on cody.",
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"content": "Cody is one of YouTubes good boys. \n\nDr Disrespect was always a pos even outside of his character.\n\nSo I assume people were praying for his downfall there. I also assume it's a lot of Cody Ko fans coping with it. And the fact Tana isn't that liked (which regardless should not be a reason to dismiss this).\n\nYou see it all over. \"It's Tana who cares\". Tana even addresses it herself. If this was someone less favourable. This would definitely have blow up much more",
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"content": "Someone's been leaving these letters in ppls Mailboxes ",
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"content": "I'm sorry fam, I really don't want to have someone staying in my house. My private property I paid for it. Even I received a letter similar to your's\n \nGreat XD get downvoted, I can let you guys in just please don't mess my home and pay some expenses",
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"content": "You'll be delighted to know that this is never happening",
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"content": "I know, but who knows this world already fck up might as well assume that this happened might as well prepare what I say if that happened",
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"content": "I know we're living in scary times right now, but honestly, there are much more important things to worry about than the government assigning you a dozen illegal immigrants to house.",
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"content": "You know what yeah XD",
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"content": "Mark Hamill, Hank Green and Mark Cuban have appeared on the AustinShow/Valkyrae/ Pokimane/Sykkuno Bernie Sanders stream",
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"content": "Wait, could someone explain why Hasan wasn’t apart of this?",
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"content": "This is a partnership with Kamala’s campaign/DNC, and he wouldn’t want something like this to be viewed as an endorsement",
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"content": "Isn’t he still voting for her though? Or so I thought😭",
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"content": "Got messages from multiple Democrat PACs today with surveys very up front floating Kamala as the nominee and asking what I think her chances of beating Trump are.\n\nHope you all are coconut pilled and existing of all in which you live and what came before you this fine day.",
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"content": "What was your response? Do you think she can beat Trump?",
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"content": "I said I'd be fine with her as the nom and she should be somewhat likely to beat Trump",
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"content": "You should have gone all in whether you believe it or not to push the results eeeeeever so slightly in that direction",
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"content": "It’s not morally wrong, no. Your vote is a personal decision for you and it’s not like there’s other realistic choices. We don’t have to confine ourselves to an identity as a leftist and limit our moral reasoning to what a leftist would do. Vote for who you please because it’s not like there’s a leftist candidate anyway that we’re all organizing around.\n\nI will say that project 2025 is happening, though. It’s the end of a 30 year project and if the presidency stops it why aren’t we already doing that? We can organize to do shit to reverse things but it will be a lot of work. If that’s your concern a vote for the presidency is a poor strategy to do anything about it.",
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"content": "Thank you so much for the insight I appreciate it, still going to have a long hard thought about my decision but I’ll just wait until the day comes and cope that Biden will either get dropped for someone else or just straight up wither away before Election Day :/",
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"content": "Well your fundamental issue of not wanting to support a genocide isn’t resolved by a vote in this election either. This is America, baby, where anyone with enough political clout to be president supports a genocide of Palestinians. There simply isn’t a way to vote that’s ethical on that issue.\n\nWhat some are doing is not voting out of protest. I question the effectiveness of that. I’d say if you’re going to do that turn in an empty ballot so the non-vote is tracked somehow. Just not showing up isn’t going to do anything no matter the numbers that just don’t show up.",
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"content": "Considering a lot the people protest voting already voted third party or don’t vote at all this is a good idea. A blank ballot shows you actually are a voter but won’t vote for the candidate, that’s real numbers someone at the DNC can make a case with. Non voting is a hypothetical number.",
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"content": "Could potentially get him to drop out",
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"content": "CNN reported it so take it with a grain of salt.",
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"content": "The announcement came directly from the White House, and CNN is just regurgitating the announcement.",
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"content": "Why would the white house say anything unless it's propaganda to make biden look strong to his followers? It makes literally no sense to say it if it hurts him amongst the little support he has",
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"content": "chatters, please take your meds. this comment was from an unrelated subreddit on an unrelated post. i feel bad for these people because obviously they’re going through a lot, but i had to share this with y’all because of just how nuts it is",
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"content": "r/gangstalking \n\nParanoid schizophrenic. My brother has it. This is how he types and thinks, it’s extremely depressing. \n\nMy brother has destroyed parts of our house growing up looking for cameras, trying to barricade our yard at night to prevent “pedophiles” from stealing us (his younger sisters), he has flipped out and yelled at people in public, it’s like his fight or flight kicks in. It’s extremely hard to watch. He’s a nomad now, he doesn’t trust any place we pitch in to pay for, he won’t stay in a sober house, he won’t stay in transition housing. He’s just too paranoid.",
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"content": "Wait is that sub satire or not? I can’t tell lol",
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"content": "Its a 50/50 mix",
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"content": "I know you guys are sick of E but i need someone to confirm how insane this is. I need some sanity\n\nEthan once again, thinks all jews are zionists or whatever the fuc and casually hand waves lefties as the true anti semites.",
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"content": "Caitlin Johnstone is a fire spitting machine, this is just one of many glorious quotes from her",
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"content": "I genuinely dont understand what ethan is reading or understanding that we dont see. Like bro, she PERFECTLY explained the issue but he goes youre anti semetic for thinking jews can be anti semetic",
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"content": "he's got too much of his identity invested in Israel and can't separate the state from the colonizer campaign the IDF is running - just like people who get mad at Hasan for saying America deserved 9/11; they can't separate the state from their own identity of being an American",
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"content": "Been going thru all the coverage on Mamala, and that shit makes me feel like a delusional lib again. The system aint working, Kamala is a pig, but goddamn she has been hitting some high notes on some recent speeches/moments along the campaign trail (for biden and herself)\n\nThe narratives are writing themselves now, and the hogs are imploding—trying to use the courts to keep her off the ballot is so juicy (given he attempted to use courts to win a lost election and, not to mention, loaded SCOTUS, further showing how conservatives go around the ppl with the judicial); they can use this in a hundred diff ways. He literally complained ab dems using courts to keep him off the ballot. But, regardless, these dynamics in the new race are excellent. \n\nDA vs convict. Strong pro-choice woman vs weak anti-choice man. True unity (no open con. Chaos) vs “just saying the word unity.” Young(ish!) former VP vs oldest-ever & disgraced nominee. \n\nDont get me wrong, they have to play this very well bc a week ago i would have said i was unsure of kamalas chances but hesitant to box her out. However, for the first time in months i am excited ab the prospect of another four years without a nazi going bananas in the oval office. \n\nShe has to own him in the debate (if he pussies out they gotta air millions of ads calling him a pussy for only debating gramps). She has to pick a good VP-i like Kentucky gov too, but there are several options. But she is 19 yrs younger than Trump and his campaign’s done all the leg work in expressing how important a cogent and younger executive is. He’s fucked himself and this is the single best decision from the biden admin in months if not ever. \n\nSrry for rant. Just not a doomer for the first time in ages and no longer have to cringe at every utterance of Bidens demented brain. Plus she did air out desires for a ceasefire before biden. But time will tell if shes any different. I hope so at the very least. And that hope is different. The US could end up like those EU nations if we keep some momentum. ",
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"content": "Every global north leftist is a lib. Mask off at the smallest of perturbations",
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"content": "Yeah I'm so tired of this magical future where elections will provide a radical left option...We will forever be fire fighting, that's what electoral politics is",
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"content": "But what if leftists want things to improve?\n\nCould we not vote 3rd party not for success but to force the democratic party to acknowledge the voter base and cater to it for support. I personally think a left wing version of the tea party scenario where voters split forcing the party to adopt their idea's is much more likely to bring positive change than the 'keep voting neoliberal for eternity' strategy. This of course would bring a lot of angry liberals who actually love the neoliberalism part as occurred with the tea party but could lead to long term improvements, versus the vote for evil strategy that will forever bleed support. I agree not voting at all is a bad idea though.",
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"content": "You haven't done anything wrong.",
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"content": "Yeah exactly 💙",
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"content": "That superior European civilized behavior we always hear about.",
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"content": "Ahhh don’t awaken the ghost of English hooliganism 😭 they were an actual continental issue in Europe for decades like the Huns or something lmao",
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"content": "The huns from Ibrox have always been like that",
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"content": "Omg truuue!! We defo Celtic in this community 🇮🇪🏴🇵🇸⚽️🍿🍀",
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"content": "a co-owner of OTK (asmon's org) just deleted this tweet about how he feels seeing his peer call palestinian culture \"inferior\" ",
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"content": "Isn't will neff part of otk? ",
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"content": "not to start discourse but yea and I always thought it was a strange move. I'll admit there's a few entertaining people in their org but it seems like it has a culture of platforming fairly problematic people and I'm surprised people are interested in working with them as much as they do",
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"content": "Ngl i will lowkey lose some respect for Will if he stays with them after this. There's no excuse",
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"content": "I really don't understand what OTK has to gain by keeping him around,. Aside from their one podcast, he doesn't do much content with the group. They also addressed the Miz and Rich controversies almost immediately, so you would assume they care about their image at least to some extent.\n\nHe's obviously not bringing in brand deals either. They have hardly any business partners, aside from Gamer Supps, who sponsor anything with a pulse.",
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"content": "Yeah i really don't get it. From what i can tell most of the members seem like cool people who don't deserve to be associated with a raging racist like him",
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"content": "Class traitor",
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"content": "Teamsters...go figure",
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"content": "Did anybody actually listen to his speech? At the heart of his message he challenged them to not be so anti-union, talked shit about union-busting think tanks & actually got them to applaud many pro-union things that they would normally shout down. If anything this was a demonstration of verbal Jiu-jitsu.",
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"content": "While that may be true it still doesn’t look good if you’re invited over by the Anti-Union crowd. That may not be his true intentions. That’s like saying that democrats are progressive and far left when they’re liberal.",
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"content": "What political stance does Hasan technically identify with? I see democratic socialist on his wikipedia page, is that it? I love daddy hasan and just wanna know what i can reference when friends and republican family members are wondering. \n\nEdit: Ty for all the jokes :) and for the honest takes. I’m trying to get people to watch him so these comments were helpful in describing his platform",
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"content": "He’s definitely some flavor of Marxist. Not sure if he’s an ML since he doesn’t seem to like Stalin though.",
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"content": "I think it’s possible to be an ML without liking Stalin",
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"content": "That’s probably about where I’m at. I’m not an ML but I sympathize with them so much that I often find myself in ML spaces despite me never getting aboard the “Stalin did nothing wrong” train. Although I don’t hate him like most libs do.\n\nSeems kind of contradictory given he’s credited for developing Marxism-Leninism.",
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"content": "I’ve been a subscriber and viewer for years and THIS got me banned lmao",
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"content": "Congrats on following the current trends. You should have gotten banned before it was cool.",
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"content": "I wish I commented something about Palestine months ago!!! Probably would’ve met the same fate based on the way it’s going!",
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"content": "I honestly have no clue. I've never interacted with H3. Won't be starting now.",
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"content": "The daughter of the man that lost his life at the rally yesterday. Condolences to this family 💔 This is really sad no matter what you believe in 😞",
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"content": "why is everyone saying he’s a “literal nazi” is there actual proof or is it just cuz he’s maga?",
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"content": "One of things is cancelling people because of their political beliefs is a stupid idea. I live in a super red voting city and i think what we need to do is build a political movement which can appeal to all and not promote bs “Russiagate” conspiracies.",
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"content": "well it depends what your political beliefs are id say. if you believe that all mexicans are rapists and need to be deported ill think you’re a horrible person\n\ni do agree we need to work on reaching these maga follks lost in the sauce, though\n\nrussia gate was real. a bunch of trump’s administration were jailed following the fbi investigation for collusions. and you cant deny that multiple US spies died because of trump’s breaches of security",
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"content": "Key issue is the reason why we have a lot of migration from certain countries is one, interventionalism and two, corruption in other nations. (I am a 1st gen immigrant myself).",
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"content": "immigration is not an issue. immigration is good for our country. our decrepit immigration system is the issue.",
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"content": "We’re cooked. The conversations of universal healthcare, freeing Palestine, student loan forgiveness…really any policy discussion is toast. AOC on her instagram tonight is out here talking about how Biden stepping down isn’t feasible and she knows how to win elections and blah blah blah. We’re so far removed from making the changes in this country we need that one of our once leading voices of change is the last defender of Biden. It’s crazy, there’s literally no one we can turn to. ",
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"content": "AOC doesn't have any power within the Democratic party. You guys think that just because we like her that she's super influential. She's not and if she attacked Biden it probably helps him.\n\nIf she came out and called on Biden to drop out that actually probably helps him. It rallies the Liberals to him.\n\nThe Democratic party is a liberal party. She's probably close to a socdem.\n\nIt's far more relevant that Pelosi and Schumer and Jeffries are calling for Biden to drop out. \n\nThey've pretty much done so openly now. \n\nAdam Schiff is super close to Democratic leadership. he's been on the record calling for Biden to drop out.\n\nThere are reports that Obama has asked him to drop out\n\nThe liberal leadership of the democratic party is against Joe Biden now. If you're somebody like AOC there's nothing you can bring to this fight at this point.\n\nIf bidens selfish and refuses to work with Democratic leadership he wasn't going to cave just because AOC called him out. None of AOC'S voter base was going to vote for biden anyways because of his support of genocide\n\nBiden was a United States senator for longer than AOC has been alive. She does not have clout with him. If Biden's willing to burn his relationships with people like Pelosi and Schumer who he's known for decades and possibly even his relationship with Obama who offered to pay for his son's cancer treatments, then there is no way he caves because AOC asks him to resign.\n\nAOC attacking Biden literally does nothing. In fact it might help him.",
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"content": "But defending him that much? She is supposed to be an alternative for the Democrats in the future but she gets out of her way to defend Biden aka the status quo. I know she will never be a socialist or communist, not even a social democrat but she clearly likes or tolerates Biden's actions, for her to continue doing this defense for him.\n\nI just hope everyone stops saying AOC is different (she is the less evil neo liberal but still she is one) than any democrat. She is rising in the bourgeoisie party for a reason.",
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"content": "It's possible AOC knows it'll be Kamala and Kamala is worse. She's a cop after all.",
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"content": "Name a single concrete way in which kamala is worse. Biden increased police funding and is one of the fathers of the crime bill.",
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"content": "Biden's nlrb tried to force Starbucks to rehire workers they fired for attempting to unionize their workplace. \n\nBiden's administration try to force an American corporation to rehire employees they fired for unionization attempts.\n\nThis was literally so radical that the supreme Court voted eight to one against it and deemed it unconstitutional. The two supreme Court Justice appointed by Barack Obama voted with the conservatives that the National labor relations board does not have the power to force a corporation to rehire employees it fired. \n\nBiden has been the most pro labor president of my lifetime. \n\nI don't think leftists appreciate that you're very unlikely to see a democratic nominee be this pro labor.\n\nBarack Obama certainly was not. I doubt Kamala Harris will be better than Biden on labor",
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"content": "Would like to send this as a reply to all liberals going on about Project 2025",
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"content": "Comparing a single site of gross police overspending to an entire outline of our countries government is one of the dumbest things I have seen on this subreddit…",
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"content": "> Comparing a single site of gross police overspending\n\nIt's not a single problem, it is **the usual** aka a Systemic Problem. Your straw man here was that the rest of the police departments are fine or that progressives/leftists did not take issue with them.",
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"content": "I just feel like some of y’all are taking this 2025 facist shit too lightly. Trust me ACAB all the way. But they are just a symptom of the problem, and the root of it is basically “project 2025” AKA out and about fascism that has been going on now for a while and really taking hold of this country.",
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"content": "While I tend to agree with Obama's push for Biden to step aside, I'm deeply concerned about Obama's influence on the Democratic Party. He played a significant role in persuading Biden not to enter the 2016 Democratic primary, and I believe Biden could have beaten Trump. Additionally, he seemed to orchestrate Bernie Sanders' loss in the 2020 primary by convincing several centrist candidates to drop out while keeping Elizabeth Warren in the race to siphon progressive votes from Bernie. Though this can't be proven, it feels plausible.\n\nNow, Obama is reportedly pressuring Biden to leave the race again. While I agree with this decision, it bothers me that Obama seems to be at the center of several poor decisions and progressive setbacks. This is the same person who left the Democratic Party in a weakened state after his presidency. I wish both he and the Clintons would step back. Perhaps I'm naive, but many still view him as the party's leader. Nonetheless, his central role in these matters is frustrating.",
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"content": "Not really. There was always going to be somebody that organized the establishment \n\nThe reason that Biden can be forced out is because he has no real base of support.\n\nThe GOP cannot force Trump out of their party because he genuinely has a massive base of support. There are tens of millions of Americans that see Donald Trump as their hero and champion and last hope.\n\nBiden voters are actually just establishment Democratic voters\n\nIf Obama died after his presidency they would have found somebody else to organize against a socdem\n\nToo many leftists act like the Liberals organizing to not split the vote with some incredibly unfair action. \n\nAnybody that understands the basics of first past the post voting systems understands that you can't split the votes and expect to win against your ideological rivals.",
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"content": "But CAN Biden be forced out?",
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"content": "I mean if he's willing to burn down the entire party around him then no. \n\nBut supposedly this guy cares about Legacy. \n\nThe only way to salvage his legacy is to resign and just live off of his one term. \n\nWhich honestly was not that bad of a term all things considered. \n\nIt's an extremely low bar but in my opinion he had a better presidency than Obama from my perspective.",
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"content": "The daughter of the man that lost his life at the rally yesterday. Condolences to this family 💔 This is really sad no matter what you believe in 😞",
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"content": "why is everyone saying he’s a “literal nazi” is there actual proof or is it just cuz he’s maga?",
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"content": "Most in this sub redefined and misuse the term nazi the same way the right redefined and misuses woke.\n\nThat’s what cults do. They redefine popular words to fit their narrative. When you get to the extreme ends of the spectrum they become very culty.",
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"content": "A better label would be Zionist - at least in regards of his tweets I’ve seen",
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"content": "lmao",
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"content": "I mean the DNC is clearly less fascist\n\nI don't understand you guys that can't see it's better to lose an arm that be flayed Alive.\n\nNone of you are organizing armed resistance. You might as well vote DNC (if you live in a swing state)",
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"content": "This sub is weird man. \n\n\nI think Biden needs to step aside but you've got to be smoking some shit to think throwing away your protest vote does anything but further the march towards authoritarianism in the US.",
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"content": "95% of the subs you are active in are just standard liberals ones. That is pretty weird indeed of you are a leftist at least...",
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"content": "what leftist subs should I follow?",
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"content": "r/guineapigs",
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"content": "Does it matter whether Biden drops out of his own accord or not? Can't the DNC just nominate someone else regardless of what Biden wants?",
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"content": "The biggest issue with that is campaign infrastructure and funding, Kamala is the only one with access to both so they would have to pick her.",
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"content": "She controls the campaign funds if Biden steps down. She has a marginally better chance of winning against Trump.",
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"content": "She is outpolled vs Trump by \"generic Democrat.\" \n\nThis is a horrible idea. The DNC can raise more money, they can't trick people into liking someone they can't stand.",
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"content": "Ethan talks about Hasan and “his community” on his instagram stories (posts screenshots from Hasan’s discord) ",
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"content": "Say what you will about the man but I do think he should be able to defend himself from disinfp, call me crazy",
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"content": "okay i will, you're crazy",
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"content": "I was inviting it, bc i knew many here hate him so much they embrace misinformation. You guys are such perfect revolutionaries, keep on keeping on in this internet drama, you are making a real difference here!",
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"content": "The ADL demanded Twitch ban the Muslims, Arabs, Persians and Lebanese people on stage. No one else got banned despite being on stage. Even a person on stage who literally said nothing was banned, because of her ethnicity.\n\nThis was a racist campaign of terror, after Asmongold was banned for promoting genocide of Palestinians, the racist mob was furious. They wanted Arab blood in revenge. So they began a disinformation war, and brought in the unregistered foreign agents known as the ADL to pressure Twitch to ban the brown people.",
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"content": "I mean, all those people had to do was not go on stage and create a tier list that went from Arab to Jew. That's not really asking much of them in the grand scheme of things, tbh.",
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"content": ">all those people had to do was not go on stage and create a tier list that went from Arab to Jew\n\nThey did no such thing. And a person who literally said nothing at all was banned. They didn't ban other people on stage however, only the people of middle eastern descent.",
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"content": "Play stupid all you want, anybody with a functioning brain understood the dogwhistle. If a bunch of right wing nutters went on stage and created a tier list that went from white to KFC muncher, you'd rightfully be calling it out for being racist.",
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"content": "Do a sick gamer move and ... leave. You do not care about the context, you do not care about the truth. \n\nYou are here just to spread your hate.",
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"content": "\"You are here just to spread your hate.\" \n\nIronic coming from a nazi sympathiser.",
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"content": "Even if that was true, it is not an ”ironic statement”. It would have been ironic only if I (my person, not people that i follow) would have done the same thing.",
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"content": "Alright, Adolf.",
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"content": "My God you need Jesus or professional help... preferably both.",
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"content": "Coming from someone who watches Hasan.",
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"content": "Based JT",
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"content": "lmao china is on the right track?",
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"content": "Yeah, they're doing a pretty good job of suppressing their bourgeoisie for the benefit of the masses. They haven't \"achieved communism\", but they are absolutely clowning on us and every other capitalist society.",
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"content": "They’re a totalitarian nightmare but ok\n\nI swear, people here will support anyone if their vocabulary sounds vaguely leftist",
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"content": "elaborate how its \"totalitarian nightmare\"",
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"content": "No YouTube 😞😞😞😞",
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"content": "Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)",
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"content": "Liberals in this sub have come all out regarding Kamala in a way they hadn't for biden. That's pretty wild and also pretty sad.",
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"content": "I think people just don’t want Trump lol.",
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"content": "So a little genocide is okay? I draw the line well before that.",
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"content": "Israel isn't in the ticket this year. \n\nYou want a solution to get the US to stop bending the knee to Israel you're going to have to find it outside the ballot box.",
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"content": "Absolutely",
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"content": "We are so cooked.",
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"content": "He has such amazing political instincts.\n\nWho else gets shot in the ear, then stands up and throws his fist in the air screaming at his fans to fight.\n\nAnd then his audience literally starts cheering and clapping for him.\n\nIf you saw this in a movie you would think it's ridiculous and fake.\n\nHe's dominating the male vote.",
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"content": "It’s being reported he got cut by teleprompter glass, not a bullet",
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"content": "Not true, those were early non official reports based on single annanumous source. But now we have high rez pics that litterally show bullet mid flight passing just behind his head, and no teleprompters were broken in the aftermath. Its Jover",
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"content": "Literally everywhere on the internet today, it’s about to be an unbearable 4 months",
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"content": "good thing the DNC didn't neuter every viable opponent to trump during the last election as a play to make Biden look better. otherwise this meme would be totally accurate and we would be in real trouble.",
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"content": "Name these viable opponents who wanted to run against an incumbent.",
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"content": "You'll just say none of them are viable however it was Warren, sanders, klobuchar, mayor Pete, yang, williamson, Harris, booker, and a few more",
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"content": "Yang? Get the fuck out of here.",
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"content": "Yeah I shouldn't have included him among the rest in this context but I don't fuck with any of em so it's besides the point to a degree. Names aside, do you not feel that the DNC engages in an outsized push for the campaign of their preferred candidate over the will of the people?",
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"content": "Yang is objectively worse than Biden and it's not even close \n\nI think running a primary is expensive and trying to win a primary is very expensive and nine times out of ten the voting block will just re-elect the incumbent.\n\nThe work needed to prop up a challenger required significant work done in 2022 that just didn't happen.",
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"content": "> The work needed to prop up a challenger required significant work done in 2022 that just didn't happen.\n\nExactly, except it didn't \"just not happen.\" It was a choice on the part of the dems not to prepare for the obvious",
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"content": "Bro I'm talking about people left of Biden who were unhappy enough to do a run",
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"content": "I apologize - I'm probably misunderstanding from the start and we're on entirely different pages. My bad",
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"content": "Hi guys.\n\nSo I really love this community. Hasan has done a lot for me. He's helped me to become a good person.\n\nThis community has been a beacon of growth for me and I'm super grateful.\n\nBut on my journey I eventually stumbled upon the issue of veganism and I donno, I kinda - following a lot of the logic I learned here - thought that vegans were right in a lot of what they were saying. \nSo I decided to properly check out all of their arguments and watch vegan documentaries and really open myself up to the possibility that vegans might be right, and long story short- I decided that they were, and now I'm a vegan.\n\nAnd I donno.. It's like now that I am, it's like I'm seeing things from a whole new perspective, and I feel like all of the arguments people here make for humans, can be applied to animals, and it just feels like a whole lot of people are preaching about how we should be better, while being complicit in one of the biggest horrors that exists.\n\nI feel like.. Like you know how we call what's going on in Gaza a genocide? Because.. well because it is a genocide. But people who don't get that accuse us of using inflammatory language? \nBut then vegans will say that what's happening to animals is an animal holocaust. And I feel like that's true. They're literally confined in cages for their entire lives, and then killed. Pigs are literally gassed to death. Like... You don't get more holocaust than that. \nBut then Hasan dismisses veganism and thinks that vegans are being extra with their views...\n\nI don't know. \nJust like how it's difficult for you guys to be part of democratic spaces that are in support of what Israel is doing; I too find it hard to be part of this space when you guys are in support of what the meat industry is doing.\n\nI don't if that sounds dumb? But that's how I feel and I'd just like to know what you guys think about this issue.\n\nI'm not really looking to argue or convince anyone to go vegan, but I am wondering why people in this community aren't as a whole opposed to animal farming, and in particular- factory farming. \nIt's just like- if farming animals causes harm to animals, and there are viable alternatives, then how do you justify eating animal products?\n\nTl;dr: Why aren't you vegan?",
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"content": "Because animals aren't morally comparable to people. Let's use the same example Hasan uses for fertilized embryos. If you had to choose between saving one person and 100 chickens in a fire, you'd save the person. Its a psychotic position to pick the chickens.\n\n\nIt's far more ethical for me to eat a cow raised and slaughtered humanely by people I know personally in my community, than a banana grown by a company that's done coups in the global south and shipped their product half way around it the world.\n\n\nYes there are bad practices out there in the meat industry and they should be discontinued, but that doesn't mean eating meat is bad in and of itself.",
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"content": "If it were 100 dogs, bro, I'm saving the dogs.",
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"content": "Still a psychotic take, but go off I guess",
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"content": "a co-owner of OTK (asmon's org) just deleted this tweet about how he feels seeing his peer call palestinian culture \"inferior\" ",
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"content": "Isn't will neff part of otk? ",
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"content": "not to start discourse but yea and I always thought it was a strange move. I'll admit there's a few entertaining people in their org but it seems like it has a culture of platforming fairly problematic people and I'm surprised people are interested in working with them as much as they do",
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"content": "Ngl i will lowkey lose some respect for Will if he stays with them after this. There's no excuse",
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"content": "Relax",
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"content": "Nah",
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"content": "You didin't owe them your vote. \n\nThey wanted it? \n\nThey should have earned it by advocating for the things you wanted",
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"content": "they didn't even need to run on a progressive platform. all they had to do was not be explicitly evil.",
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"content": "And yet Trump's platform is seemingly very popular with Americans.\n\nI think America is just unfortunately farther right than anyone would actually like to believe.",
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"content": "Yeah this sub is going to want to browbeat about Gaza and how the campaign should’ve gone further left but the reality is the country is much more comfortable with fascism than we want to admit. This isn’t 2016. People are mad af that they can’t buy a house and that their eggs are more expensive or whatever, add in massive propaganda on social media about immigrants being evil and that’s really difficult to overcome",
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"content": "He always has a point",
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"content": "I mean… They are causing pollution backing up traffic and all they are doing is pissing off their fellow proletariats. Can’t they focus it somewhere where it actually hurts their profits? Like block the entrance to refineries or ports or something?",
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"content": "You seem to misunderstand the point of protesting",
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"content": "It’s to raise awareness yes? What’s the point if everyone you are effecting is gonna vehemently hate you and therefore your cause?",
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"content": "We get it you’re excited for Kamala but please stop brigading this leftist sub. Liberals are not leftists because of capitalism and as far as we know she hasn’t changed her policies so she could still be pro-Israel for all we know. Biggest issue that people had with Biden was the genocide and just because she got endorsed doesn’t mean we should suddenly forget about the Palestinians. The lesser evil argument is a just a way of proving that you have no democracy if you have to choose between two Hitlers. It just proves that your two party system is ruled by the bourgeoisie.",
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"content": "I don’t think anybody other than maybe Hasan himself is coping that she’s pro Palestine.\n\nAnd even Hasan acknowledges that he’s probably wish casting.\n\n Most people around here think the Republican party does significantly more harm to issues they care about including the Palestinians, than Biden or Harris.\n\nAnd I think most people were convinced that Biden was a guaranteed loss due to his mental deficiencies at this point.\n\nHarris just by being able to speak complete sentences is a much stronger candidate. People are happy that they have some belief that Trump might lose.",
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"content": "There you go! This is exactly it. Nobody is happy about any of it, but there’s a modicum of relief that somebody somewhere did something about what the world sees with their own eyes.\n\nEmma Vigeland posted exactly what I feel like \n\n\n“Kamala Harris is going to take a picture with Julia Louis-Dreyfus at some fundraiser and the campaign will tweet it out with a Veep-related caption. We’ll fully be back in Obama-era liberal cringe mode and it will feel like a warm blanket.”\n\n\nAnything slightly positive is enough for me right now.",
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"content": "\"It will feel like a warm blanket.\" I think that's part of the problem. No doubt it will feel that way to many, but Kamala isn't a warm blanket, she's another cheery spokesperson for everything that's tearing people's lives and the planet apart, just like Biden and Obama and every other neoliberal Democrat before her. And before anyone says, \"well she isn't Trump,\" yeah, we know, but tell that to the billions of people around the world and in America who still aren't safe under that warm, cozy blanket.",
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"content": "Prediction for Trump’s 2nd Term: I believe Trump will announce he will be seeking a third term as president for the 2028 election due to him “being cheated” in 2020. He’ll declare it an “official act” and the supreme spurt will allow him to run. Am I off base with this? What do you think?",
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"content": "It would be up to individual states to not let him on their ballot. SCOTUS has no enforcement ability itself and states run the election.",
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"content": "Couldn't he just sue the states and run it up to the Supreme Court to overturn that? Didn't he already do that with Colorado (I think it was CO).",
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"content": "SCOTUS has no ability to enforce their rulings, especially on other branches and state governments. Compliance with rulings is self-imposed or forced by States, Congress and/or the executive branch, or sometimes just ignored. If a state decided to ignore the \"Unlimited Trump\" SCOTUS ruling I would think the most likely scenario would be the executive branch agencies (under the President) denying any federal funding they control to the state. It might be interesting to see what happens. A rich state like California pays in more to the fed than they receive back and could try something like diverting all federal tax revenues collected in California to state coffers. Though now since POTUS doesn't have to follow the law for \"official acts\" Trump could order the US military into Sacramento (California's capital).",
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"content": "this is my understanding of things:\n\n• someone made a joking remark abt americans thinking 9/11 happened solely bc bin laden hated democracy and not knowing the history and context leading up to it\n• ethan went man fuck you bin laden sucks he DID hate democracy and all this other stuff\n• some other guy jumped in and was like bro does ethan not understand political analysis\n• frogan also jumped in and was like mannn can ethan stfu\n• ethan got so fucking mad and said idgaf if frogan is mad this is why i don’t fuck with hasan anymore\n\nthen what? am i missing something? ethan mentioned frogan crying after he responded to her but where did he do that ? and where did she cry ? i’m not trying to instigate just trying to understand what happened chat help\n\nhasan is my dawgs , ethan is my dawgs (i know guys … i know. i wish he would come to the light, but alas) i feel like a kid with divorced parents (ethan’s the dad cuz he’s in the wrong) (xqc is the estranged uncle)",
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"content": "The underlying tension is Ethan although critical of Israel ultimately supports Israel's right to \"defend\" itself by any means. Including what Israel is doing in Gaza.\n\nForgan thinks of Palestinians as fully human so she and him have beef.\n\nEthan is like Kamala Harris Criticism of Israel, but against any material action that would stop Israel",
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"content": "Losers downvoted you, this is the correct answer",
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"content": "I didn't sugarcoat the truth",
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"content": "That superior European civilized behavior we always hear about.",
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"content": "These savages need to be tamed and forcibly assimilated into a more righteous and pious culture. /s",
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"content": "this but unironically.",
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"content": "This is the single most disgusting thing Biden has said in ages",
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"content": "Keep malding, pikers",
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"content": "Yes, how dare people get mad about genocide and ethnic cleansing…",
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"content": "Good job!\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1e8rygi/_/",
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"content": "Are you okay, you seem to be malding?\n\nAll these articles don’t justify illegal occupation or genocide. 30,000+ Palestinians are dead from indiscriminate bombings, victims being mainly women and children (even IDF released a dog on an autistic Palestinian and killed him), millions displaced. Hospitals bombed, same with refugee camps, mosques and safe zones. Israel has decimated Gaza health care and cut off food supplies, barely any aid is coming through - aid workers are being bombed as well as journalists. \n\nClearly this is genocidal and anyone with half a brain can see this. If you believe that the actions of a settler colonial entity in Palestine is justified then I suggest you leave this subreddit - or as you say, keep malding blue_collie ✌️ \n\nFree Palestine 🇵🇸",
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"content": "Is the best you can do? \"no u\"?\n\nSeriously, stop firing rockets at civilians. It's a bad look.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1ea2qgq/_/\n\nLOL, the coward's block. Good show.",
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"content": "Context: Harris rebuking Pro-Palestinian hecklers at her rally",
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"content": "Holy shit.\n\nHarris just trying her best to Hillary 2.0",
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"content": "The glazing in this subreddit is so crazy, why’d this post get insta downvoted",
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"content": "DNCs astroturf. They jumping in front of Harris opening her mouth.",
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"content": "Guys I’m scared the uncles are fighting 😔",
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"content": "Sam Seder is objectively correct though. That clip of her taking offence to calling trump a fascist is straight up crazy grifting.",
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"content": "She literally made up her own definition of fascism, by what she says you could say the Nazis weren't really fascist. It was incredibly stupid.",
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"content": "Yeah you’re right. Truly brain dead",
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"content": "Dude is so stubborn.",
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"content": "Dude has a chance to leave with grace. If he runs and trump gets elected, he will be remembered the same way RBG is remembered",
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"content": "Who is supposed to replace him with 4 months left until the election?",
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"content": "Why do you feel like there is no one they can run that would be more popular than Biden, when Biden is so deeply unpopular?",
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"content": "Ukraine does have a Nazi issue…",
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"content": "So what exactly is the Nazi part here? The eagle?\n\nBecause to me it looks like an Aquila, an eagle standard of a legion, with the Ukrainian coat of arms inside it. \nIn other words, a symbol you will commonly find in any military with some loose connection to the Roman empire. \nSimilar to how a lot of countries use the iron cross and the Nazis also used it because they were also a country at one point.",
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"content": "Are you seriously trying to explain that emblem away like that? That’s clearly a melding of Azov and Nazi symbols. You’re doing some real Nazi apologia right now.",
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"content": "This ‚Azov symbol‘ (the trident) is the Ukrainian coat of arms and predates the actual fucking Nazis. \nThe eagle standard on the other hands is literally from the actual Romans. Just searching less than a minute, look at this: \nhttps://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsadler#/media/Datei%3ARome_rione_XVIII_castro_pretorio_(logo).svg\n\nDoes it remind you of something?",
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"content": "I hope you’re just fucking stupid and not a Nazi, but honestly I don’t know. You’re certainly making it hard to tell.",
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"content": "Do you seriously think I am a Nazi? \nJust for this comment? \n\nDo you think that reasonable?",
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"content": "Ethan calling Hasan extremely radical…",
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"content": "Hasn't Hasan explicitly told him that he is a Socialist multiple times?",
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"content": "The thing is Ethan is dumb and doesn’t understand what any of these words and terms actually mean lol",
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"content": "Unfortunately it seems he attributes these terms to whatever he says they mean to suit whatever narrative he wants to push. I was kinda holding out hope that even if his friendship with Hasan was done, that he would at least come to his senses by either himself or Dan or Sam or someone having a chat to get him to chill the fuck out. I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon if at all.\n\nJust another scratched liberal.",
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"content": "Biden officially drops out!",
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"content": "Thank fucking god. Now, lets hope big mama Gretch can get the nomination. I still don't feel great about Harris having a much better chance than Biden to win. We need an invigorating ticket to really get people fired up from their apathy.",
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"content": "I don’t see any other potential candidate having the same reach as Kamala. Like her or not, she’s probably the best bet. She’s a household name, what other possible candidate is as well known? I don’t know anything about Whitmer, barely heard about her until now and I doubt I’m alone in that. Especially among the middle of the road people. The dems need one person for democrats and undecided voters to get behind. Anything else will divide the vote and basically ensure trumps win, if it’s not a sure thing already",
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"content": "Kamala is terrible. No way. Gavin would be 100x better.",
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"content": "Prediction for Trump’s 2nd Term: I believe Trump will announce he will be seeking a third term as president for the 2028 election due to him “being cheated” in 2020. He’ll declare it an “official act” and the supreme spurt will allow him to run. Am I off base with this? What do you think?",
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"content": "If he were younger, maybe, but lmao. Have you ever seen before and after photos of Obama? How much it aged him? Throw that on an 80 yr old on his second term. Have you watched clips of Biden in 2020 and compared them to clips from yesterday? That's gonna be Trump too. A third term? I mean... ok I dare him. Let nature take it's course. 💀",
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"content": "Bro he didn't age a day over his first term. That mother fucker wasn't stressing about the country lolwhat",
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"content": "If he couldn’t do it after 2020, what makes this time any different?",
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"content": "They can't even pass a bill that supports [a gesture of](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4764970-senate-republicans-block-abortion-bill/) approval for bodily autonomy because of all the Republicans in the Senate.\n\nAnd even if they did, can't a judiciary just block anything now because the Chevron Deference is gone? Guaranteed Attorney General Jesuslover McLiberty (R - Texoklahomabama) just sues in the fifth circuit, saying the FDA can't approve any meds for abortion. Then on appeal, Alito justifies it with the scrolls of a 13th century apothecary or a druid from a monastery in the 1600s.\n\nI don't think anyone can really be safe until the supreme Court is dealt with.",
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"content": "Chevron deference being gone doesn't mean explicit legislation is now more blockable by the judiciary. It just means executive actions and agency stuff is more blockable. \n\nAn explicit protection for abortion rights in legislation will still hold, so long as it is EXPLICIT.",
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"content": "But isn't that the point? It's created a situation where unless every single threat is accounted for and every single \"But what about X?\" loophole is plugged, One of countless conservative district attorneys and activist groups can file a suit using that little edge case to peel up the entire thing. Then it just gets elevated up to the courts where Alito and Thomas do their shit.\n\nThis is the exact plan illustrated in project 2025: \n\n> “Now that the Supreme Court has acknowledged that the Constitution contains no right to an abortion, the FDA is ethically and legally obliged to revisit and withdraw its initial approval [of mifepristone].”\n\n p. [458](https://msmagazine.com/2024/03/29/project-2025-trump-republicans-ban-abortion-pills-mifepristone-trump/)\n\nBecause there's no constitutional right to abortion drugs, and Congress hasn't written the law that says abortion drugs are legal, the FDA's approval has to be withdrawn, according to them. This is their play.",
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"content": "Oh no, I agree with you there. It'll have to be a behemoth of a bill to close all the loopholes.\n\nBut it isn't impossible. Much like the current de jure system leads to uncertainty in healthcare practice at hospitals, 98% codification of abortion access will still empower doctors to do the right thing for their patients. \n\nIt'll be harder for red states to sue against them, much as they try, if the fed courts have no choice but to throw out 98% of cases. Right now it's the inverse.",
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"content": "I agree with you. It's just terrifying. I hate how they've weaponized language because that is really the biggest fault in our laws. \n\nMany of these things were written by people who assumed there was a level of dignity and honor in their roles as representatives of the people, as well as a desire to stick to the spirit of the law.",
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"content": "Biden officially drops out!",
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"content": "Things are gonna get insane",
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"content": "LegalEagle Confirmed Based via Hasan’s IG",
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"content": "As a fellow law school grad I’d love to see him on a stream. He does such a good job of explaining the law and the constitution. One of the goat YouTubers",
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"content": "Dawg he’s currently in shambles after being so wrong about every Trump lawsuit. Glorified injury law clown",
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"content": "I have heard from multiple sources that the reason for the assassination attempt was a lovers quarrel between the 2 of them. \n\nVery similar to the Paul Pelosi situation.\n\nHow come people aren't talking about the problematic age gap?",
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"content": "Is it confirmed that Crooks was gay? It definitely would be a problematic age gap and insanely traumatizing. I haven't seen any reporting on this, but that could explain the motive and honestly makes it pretty messed up for all the memes about him. Ofc what he did was wrong, but that's an insane amount of trauma considering the age and the power dynamic gap on top of all the bullying he endured in school. Trump is a disgusting pdf because there no way that affair would have been only 2 years ago. Do you have any links to sources? I'm guessing MSM is doing a classic scrub.",
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"content": "Um, this story was broken by our favorite radical left wing commentator Jalex Ones, who famously tackled the Republican conspiracy to detrans American frogs with chemicals in the water supply.",
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"content": "If he couldn’t do it after 2020, what makes this time any different?",
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"content": "Imo, The upside with Biden is not codifying Roe but that unlike Trump, he won't further erode reproductive rights. Or install judges that will do so",
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"content": "Yeah, literally doing nothing is better than Trump. If Biden dies one day after the inauguration and they just don't replace him, we'll still be better off than with the guy who just signs everything the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society put in front of him.",
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"content": "NO. WORKING CLASS LIVES HAVE DEGRADED AND THE DNC IS HELPING THAT HAPPEN.",
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"content": "Ok so now that Trump is inarguably gonna win, what am I (someone who isn’t a rich white cishet male) supposed to do to save myself from the GOP’s threats of taking birth control away and making gay/interracial marriages illegal? \n\nI’m not a citizen yet so I can’t even vote but all of these laws are literally going to directly affect me as someone who lives and pays taxes here. Unless you think a trump administration is going to improve working class lives?",
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"content": "I love how you Weasel worded that to be about Trump.\n\nBravo.",
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"content": "I defended him, I’m sweating. ",
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"content": "Been going thru all the coverage on Mamala, and that shit makes me feel like a delusional lib again. The system aint working, Kamala is a pig, but goddamn she has been hitting some high notes on some recent speeches/moments along the campaign trail (for biden and herself)\n\nThe narratives are writing themselves now, and the hogs are imploding—trying to use the courts to keep her off the ballot is so juicy (given he attempted to use courts to win a lost election and, not to mention, loaded SCOTUS, further showing how conservatives go around the ppl with the judicial); they can use this in a hundred diff ways. He literally complained ab dems using courts to keep him off the ballot. But, regardless, these dynamics in the new race are excellent. \n\nDA vs convict. Strong pro-choice woman vs weak anti-choice man. True unity (no open con. Chaos) vs “just saying the word unity.” Young(ish!) former VP vs oldest-ever & disgraced nominee. \n\nDont get me wrong, they have to play this very well bc a week ago i would have said i was unsure of kamalas chances but hesitant to box her out. However, for the first time in months i am excited ab the prospect of another four years without a nazi going bananas in the oval office. \n\nShe has to own him in the debate (if he pussies out they gotta air millions of ads calling him a pussy for only debating gramps). She has to pick a good VP-i like Kentucky gov too, but there are several options. But she is 19 yrs younger than Trump and his campaign’s done all the leg work in expressing how important a cogent and younger executive is. He’s fucked himself and this is the single best decision from the biden admin in months if not ever. \n\nSrry for rant. Just not a doomer for the first time in ages and no longer have to cringe at every utterance of Bidens demented brain. Plus she did air out desires for a ceasefire before biden. But time will tell if shes any different. I hope so at the very least. And that hope is different. The US could end up like those EU nations if we keep some momentum. ",
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"content": "Yeah the king is dead. The queen will be better. Don’t know, you guys, but I vote for a revolution…",
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"content": "How fast is your mile wearing an additional 60 lbs of weight? How tight are your groups at 100 yards? When was the last time you practiced your battlefield medicine?",
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"content": "My mile gets faster the more weight I wear and my anger is the bottomless grave of the bourgeoisie. Where I raise, together with all the workers, everyone else cower in fear. \n\nTrue love is possible only in the next world, for new people. It is too late for me. Fuck the bourgeoisie!",
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"content": "Ok, so you're gonna die in like 10 minutes of actual conflict. It's good to know all you larpers don't even have answers to the most basic questions regarding preparation so I can continue laughing at you.",
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"content": "Mate that’s not a revolution. Read your theory!",
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"content": "So, this is a real tweet, that Kirk wrote and posted, with all sincerity…",
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"content": "Just goes to show that Kirk is trying to appeal to the fox news audience of people older than 60",
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"content": "compared to Walz who's 60 and feels 35",
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"content": "That is all, Asmongold is a dumbass toddler… I could not take it any longer without saying it. I’d say don’t platform him but he obviously already has a platform, so talk down to him like the toddler he is. Hasan so generous. ",
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"content": "Hasan is genuinely trying to reach out and change Asmongold's mind and save him from going down this reactionary path, not just trying to dunk on him to make content.",
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"content": "I like Hassy, but he isn't very good at this. It didn't work with Adin Ross, it didn't work with XQC, and it's not going to work with Asmongold. Hasan doesn't focus on undermining reactionary perspectives with dialectical and historical materialism, he just plays whack a mole with individual subjects, which requires constant attention and effort. It's why when he doesn't get to talk to one of these people he's trying to deradicalize on a semi-consistent basis, they'll always revert back to where they started.",
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"content": "\"The Democrats\" are literally the people who voted in the primary. You're not voting for one person, you're voting for a political party, many of whom are explicitly pro-Palestinian and pro-ceasefire. If you didn't do everything you could to stop the explicitly fascist party from taking over the executive branch, you're complicit in American fascism. It's that simple. ",
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"content": "Here have my upvote. I don't think it'll do much. \n \nThis reminds me of 2016 where there was a huge effort to get people not to vote for Hilary. I know much of it was real, but a lot of it was pushed by enemies of Democrats/democracy: republicans, monopolistic oligarchs, foreign nations with incredible cyber-psychological warfare. Cambridge Analytica did an incredible job in Kenya. \n\nMaybe there is a leftist reason to refuse to vote but it happens to align nicely with the ideals of everyone who wants you to die.",
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"content": "A lot of this stuff is people being angry in good-faith at how frustrating electoral politics is--but a lot of it is a total lack of historical perspective. \n\n\"Voting doesn't matter! They're all the same anyway!\" says the anarcho-communist. \n\n\"I totally agree, you shouldn't vote!\" says the right-wing billionaire sending bales of cash to far-left candidates and working like hell to get rural white people to vote en masse.",
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"content": "When people who are supposed to make up the Democratic base have genuine concerns about Joe Biden's right-wing policies, and his attempts to carry out Trump's agenda, or his capacity to even survive until the election, you insist that it MUST be subterfuge and interference from antagonistic parties. This conspiratorial thinking is completely removed from reality. Seek help.",
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"content": "Inside the liberal mind",
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"content": "1. It’s possible to chew gum and walk at the same time.\n\n2. If you lose the democracy then solving anything else becomes rather moot. There’s a reason they tell you to put on your oxygen mask on first - in case of the cabin decompressing - before helping others. If you try to it the other way round you won’t be able to help anybody because you’ll be unconscious.",
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"content": ">If you lose the democracy\n\nSo vote for your guy and get... genocide. Or vote for the other guy and get... more genocide. Is that the democracy you have?",
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"content": "If you vote for the other guy and get genocide you’ll also most likely never see him leave and be stuck with genocide.",
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"content": "I'm not saying vote for the other guy. I'm just saying you don't have a democracy. My support would go to Claudia and Karina if I lived on that shithole of a country",
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"content": "I mean we do have a democracy, just no one cares enough to do anything about it",
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"content": "I'm skeptical of anonymous accounts from foreign countries who are desperate to convince socialists and progressives \\*not\\* to vote. And that guy spams these forums like it's his job and he's trying for a promotion.",
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"content": "And one of their subs is “united against the right”. Union where? Because splitting the vote is the opposite of united.",
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"content": "Honestly, I started watching Hasan around when LeftOvers was coming to an end. I understand where Ethan can be coming in the sense that there’s negative energy towards Israelis after October 7. Only because October 7th was in all media outlets unlike the genocide that has been going on for years. \n\nBut I’ve seen every Hasan stream that Ethan talks about and no where did I get the vibe that he’s promoting terrorism by showing the “music video”. Also why can’t Hasan talk or interview anyone he wants too without it being something “supports and promotes”. Hasan has said he wants to interview Trump. Does that make him a Trump Supporter? No. \n\nAnyways Hasan is right in that Ethan isn’t going to listen to anyone not even his own fans. He listens to the haters which is odd when he has a huge fan base. ",
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"content": "The majority of comments were saying how disingenuous the story was. Someone else left a comment saying something like \"someone using clips from a channel called hamasabi is not good faith\", to which someone replied \"he used clips from a hamasabi channel wtf?\" and then i responded clarifying \"he used an unlisted clip called hamasabi in his takedown.. i wonder where he got that link from\". As you can see very antisemitic stuff",
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"content": "I literally just got banned on there for commenting on a post “I’m personally starting to enjoy watching him self destruct”, literally any hint of criticism gets banned its actually insane over there, “there is no war in Ba Sing Se” ahh subreddit goddamn",
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"content": "Honeymoon is over",
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"content": "The lib take over is real. Most if not all Hasanabi heads knew this was the case the entire time. There is no surprise here.",
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"content": "We can all agree this sub has been getting astroturfed into hell lately right? Or at least it was for a solid few days after her speech",
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"content": "Definitely isn’t astroturfing. More like a never ending money shot of libtard nonsense. Forced feeding.",
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"content": "Article literally said these claims couldn't be verified. Comments are exactly what you think.",
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"content": "Sidenote, but most news about North Korea that you see around are fake.",
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"content": "Do you know where you could find actual reporting on NK? If so, how does one verify its authenticity?",
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"content": "https://youtu.be/2BO83Ig-E8E?si=cNv4KX3MH8Ie1Mcn\n\nThis is a good start",
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"content": "Just wanted to post this article to show everyone what to expect the next few days. Calling him a \"Biden donor\" for donating $15 to act blue despite being a registered republican. Fucking pathetic and predictable ",
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"content": "It honestly doesn’t matter that much if he was registered Republican.\n\nThe primary reason that the Democratic Party is cooked is because of that amazing photo of Trump with his fist in the air and blood streaming down his face. That photo is something that happens in the movies and even then you roll your eyes, because nobody reacts with that kind of fearlessness to having bullets fired at their head.\n\nNo matter what the intentions of the assassin are, Donald Trump has that photo .\n\n\nSecondly, the only way that Trump supporters can’t claim that the rhetoric of Trump being a felon and a fascist and a threat to democracy didn’t cause the shooting is if it comes out that this guy tried to kill Trump because of some weird reason. Eg. He thinks Trump is too pro Israel, or something.\n\nAnything other than a weird reason for why he tried to kill Trump will be blamed on the rhetoric, calling Trump, a felon, and a threat to democracy",
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"content": "Dems were already cooked, because of genocide and Parkinsons.",
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"content": "They were cooked because Biden is extremely old and inflation is kind of high.\n\nWe care about genocide because we are leftists. Most Americans don’t care that Palestinians are being massacred.\n\nAmericans generally don’t care about foreign policy at all other than in the realm of national security. Eg. Is America going to be attacked? Also Americans consider immigration a national security issue. \n\nYou’re being extremely optimistic in thinking the genocide in Gaza is a major factor in Biden losing.\n\nDo you remember the debate? They covered Palestine for 30 seconds. They talked about immigration and inflation a lot more. Americans care about immigration and inflation \n\nDonald Trump calls Joe Biden a Palestinian as he thinks he doesn’t support Israel enough",
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"content": "There's a difference between mainstream media covering Palestine and supporting Palestine being a popular position. Being pro Palestine now especially after tens of thousands of children, women and men have been murdered *is* a popular position that would have garnered Biden more votes.",
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"content": "Unfortunately it's not \n\n\nJamal Bowman got destroyed a huge part of it was he supports Palestine. \n\nThe demographic groups that care a lot about Palestine are not the most reliable voters.",
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"content": "Ukraine does have a Nazi issue…",
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"content": "Ukraine has a Nazi issue. Russia also has a Nazi issue (arguably a bigger one) and is in no position to \"denazify\" Ukraine.",
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"content": "Does Russia have a bigger Nazi issue though? Have they been renaming streets after Nazis? Are Russian soldiers openly wearing Nazi symbols?",
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"content": ">Are Russian soldiers openly wearing Nazi symbols?\n\nBuddy did you not hear about the Wagner Group? It was founded by a guy who was covered in neo Nazi tattoos, greeted subordinates by saying \"Heil!\" and wore a Wermacht hat as part of his uniform.\n\nWagner was and is a mercenary group but post Prighozin's death Putin has been turning its PMCs into more directly state controlled forces.\n\nYou've also got organizations like Rusich which is just choc full of Nazi imagery, symbolism, and ideology. They've got a lovely little Telegram group where they discuss how to \"Solve the Ukrainian question\" and say things like \"Ukrainian women dream of being raped by Russian soldiers.\"\n\n\"Managed Nationalism\" - the state sanctioned practice of propping up neo Nazi and hard-line nationalist movements in order to crack down on left wing opposition to Putin - has been Kremlin policy for decades at this point. \n\nThe fact that you'd even ask this question betrays a severe lack of knowledge about either Russia or Ukraine, and I'd really suggest reading a book and getting off Reddit.",
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"content": "There are literally thousands of military men in Ukraine army with swastikas, they had multiple batallions, they name streets after fascists and does not seems like they want to change it. \n\nWagner was built partially from detained people - killers, maniacs and rapists. Couple of fascists is not a big deal for that kind of army. Ukrainian fascists are not from prisons",
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"content": "Wagner has Nazis because it recruits from prisons, and Nazism is illegal in Russia.\n\n\nThe Ukrainian army has Nazis in it, because they are okay with Nazis having a place in civil society.",
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"content": "This is from today. Kamala Harris isn't a meme, she's a rabid zionist who will continue Biden's blanket support to 'Israel''s genocide. Don't let Dems psyop launder her unlikability as a joke, she's an empty shill for genocidal US establishment.",
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"content": "You guys are citing an article that's quoting from an official under Biden on what Kamala Harris might do as president?\n\nI think you might be over reacting just a touch. Maybe see what she has to say about it first.",
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"content": "We did, she staunchly supported Israel throughout the genocide and has been picked by DNC elites, not voters.\n\nStandard DNC corporate puppet bullshit.",
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"content": "1.) Then why not quote her on what she said, instead of what a Biden official said?\n\n2.) Am I really gonna have to do the whole \"you can't force a candidate to run just because you voted for them.\" Thing? I thought it was only centrist libs that didn't get that.",
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"content": "We are so cooked.",
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"content": "I am more worried about people like Hasan and Bernie getting \"revenge targetted\".",
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"content": "He didn't die or get seriously injured so it's less of a concern.\n\nAlso I don't think most of Trump's maga fans know about twitch.",
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"content": "The deranged terminally online ones do, but I think you're right about the rest of it.",
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"content": "I mean, one of them broke into the Pelosi household.",
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"content": "Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)",
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"content": "Liberals in this sub have come all out regarding Kamala in a way they hadn't for biden. That's pretty wild and also pretty sad.",
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"content": "Becoming increasingly clear that “Biden being old” was the main point of contention, and not him and his admin being modern day Himmlers",
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"content": "What’s the alternative? I don’t really understand. Trump literally wants Israel to finish the job. A Trump administration is quite literally ran by nazis",
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"content": "Not that I really need to dignify this line of reasoning atp, but here’s what one of the only principled person in congress is doing while everyone else, even so called “leftists” are uncritically throwing support behind Harris before she even released a platform.\n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/7kghqmohs9ed1.jpeg?width=792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67c127ff2e5c82058859c2d19793345ea44dfffc",
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"content": "The fact that Tlaib has been consistent on Israel’s genocide only makes AOC look like more of a sell out",
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"content": "I was thinking Hasan was on to something when he talked about them backing Biden or being quiet was a strategic move to get him out and not blame the left. Seeing how hard they are defending him has me so confused why they are doing this. I didn’t mind the generic support statements but Joe seems to have something on them wtf",
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"content": "Hasan explained it, and Ilhan is executing. You support the candidate, because you don’t gain anything by going against him and supporting Mamala, for example. \n\nIf he stays in, you don’t lose anything. If he steps down, you’re now in play- Kamala will come with promises for support. That’s politics- the progressives want to trade their support for future policy or positions. \n\nAnd, added bonus, you can criticize the senior centrist Dems for shit they ALWAYS do and it’s technically defending Biden. \n\n“Sure is a shame that our leadership is feckless, and never comes up with a reasonable plan and stand on until the last fucking minute.”",
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"content": "Fair. I really hope that’s the case because from the outside it appears bizarre for sure",
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"content": "From the liberal hellhole Enough\\_Sanders\\_Spam about Omar's strong support of Biden. A tweet says \"Even progressive rep. Illan Omar- one of the foremost critics of Biden's posture towards Israel and Gaza-called Biden \"the best president of my lifetime\". \"we have his back\" she said. Seems like she do support Biden.",
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"content": "I trust Joes cabinet far more than Trumps gaggle of maliciously incompetent ghouls",
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"content": "Exactly. The only reason this election looks like it’ll be close is because the Democrats have steadfastly refused to put up a viable candidate. Republicans keep banning abortion which is actually ludicrously unpopular with the electorate, Trump is now a convicted felon, etc. ad infinitum. This election should be a casual layup before a mercy-rule end of the game where the Dems stomp the GOP, and instead it’s a nailbiter because it was Biden’s turn or some shit",
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"content": "Grindr has crashed in Milwaukee due to unprecedented traffic. The Republican National Convention is currently happening there.",
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"content": "People have fun at conventions.... I don't really think it's that interesting unless the data suggests the RNC is gayer than the DNC....",
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"content": "It’s interesting because they’re hypocrites.",
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"content": "I don't really think there's a fruitful endeavor in trying to hypocrisy-burn Republicans, that's kind of MSNBC territory, but I wont stop people from having their fun. It's like making a list of Trump's lies, once you get past a few hundred the number doesn't really matter anymore.",
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"content": "I’m non Hasan Piker fan however seeing how how he dog walked Bradley Martin on how second Trump presidency and the issues was so hard to watch. Seeing Hasan go back and forth explaining issues to Bradley and going in depth while Bradley doesn’t seem to grasp it. ",
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"content": "Bradley's response was just more evidence that the democrats have completely dropped the ball on messaging. It also doesn't help that the mainstream media is complicit in the anti immigrant misinformation.",
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"content": "It made real clear how none of the shit Trump says is ever pushed back on properly on the national stage. Every campaign issue crumbled with like no effort. Obviously part of that was that the guy only knows surface level shit about them, but that's the average voter. You have to dismantle that shit before it reaches them.",
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"content": "Yep it just goes back to what Hasan says about having to actually offer people something to vote for. When you just gaslight them about how great the economy is they will listen to the people who are at least acknowledging their dire economic situation.",
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"content": "AOC eviscerates Biden: \"The horrors unfolding in northern Gaza are the result of a completely unrestrained Netanyahu gov—fully armed by the Biden admin while food aid is blocked and patients are bombed in hospitals. This is a genocide of Palestinians. The US must stop enabling it. Arms embargo now\"",
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"content": "too little too late sadly.\n\ngood tweet but it would have been more useful like 10 months ago.\nHarris and Trump are unified in their support of israel and both aren't moving.",
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"content": "It wouldn’t have meant anything 10 months earlier either \n\nAOC or anyone who feels this way has no real power or the ability to motivate to the degree that people in power will act ",
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"content": "I don't agree with that because it just leads you to defeatist attitude. You need to continue to hope that people can change and will do good things if you can reach them even if it's very unlikely.",
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"content": ">I don't agree with that because it just leads you to defeatist attitude. You need to continue to hope that people can change and will do good things if you can reach them even if it's very unlikely.\n\nI disagree. You have to be sober minded about what the options are in a situation like this. AOC as an individual isn't very powerful. I think the only path to stopping what's going on are: 1) resistance in Palestine and the region itself; 2) mass mobilization and organization, in the form of strikes and economic sabotage; and 3) military defections and mutiny, both in Israel and allied states. Outside that, you're not going to see much movement on this issue. Does it mean everything short of it is not productive? No, not exactly. But I think people need to get serious about what it would take to seriously defeat an imperialist war and genocide like this. It's not gonna be a few politicians boldly proclaiming the truth. It'll take mobilization and disruption like we have not seen.",
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"content": "I feel like you are disagreeing with the other guy more than me. I never said AOC was very powerful. I said the tweet would have been more useful 10 months ago. It would have been useful to help on your 2nd point. \n\n>2) mass mobilization and organization, in the form of strikes and economic sabotage\n\nI think AOC could have helped in motivating people and that could have helped the situation instead of lying for Biden all this time. I don't see how anybody could disagree with that.",
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"content": "Never in a million years would AOC be a spark for mass economic sabotage.",
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"content": "I didn't say she was the spark for a mass economic sabotage.\n\nI said she could have helped the situation. \n\nAlso considering the UAW made a statement about Israel and Gaza, I think more union organization backed by more popular support that AOC could have helped with could have helped. https://uaw.org/uaw-statement-israel-palestine/",
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"content": "If Trump is elected and you didn't vote for Biden, you did not contribute to that. There is no fault with you. Biden chooses to not drop out for a stronger more popular candidate. The Democrats chose Biden. Biden is complicit with Genocide and is a war criminal, not voting for him is the least you can do for your morals.\n\n \n\n",
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"content": "so are you a bad person for voting Biden then?",
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"content": "The way I see it, and this is my opinion. Voting for a Genocidal war criminal(Biden) you are either, pro Biden in which case yes bad as you are an advocate for Biden despite him being the Himmler to Netanyahus Hitler, ignorant, or a weak minded coward who sold out their values out of fear.",
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"content": "Option three. You swing another vote away from the actually evil side because that's measurably worse and sleep well enough at night because you have a conscience that understands policy hurts people. \n\nAllowing Trump to return to office is not an option. What you're doing amounts to campaigning for him.",
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"content": "Okay liberal, cope harder. Both sides are the actual evil side.",
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"content": "Insane that in this timeline US leftists have somehow horseshoe theoryed themselves into r/enlightenedcentrism (in terms of voting outcomes, not principles obviously). I agree with most people here and I don't see a way out. The US is so cooked man.",
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"content": "We’re cooked. The conversations of universal healthcare, freeing Palestine, student loan forgiveness…really any policy discussion is toast. AOC on her instagram tonight is out here talking about how Biden stepping down isn’t feasible and she knows how to win elections and blah blah blah. We’re so far removed from making the changes in this country we need that one of our once leading voices of change is the last defender of Biden. It’s crazy, there’s literally no one we can turn to. ",
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"content": "She is doing too much. \n\nLook. If she wanted to just say \"No comment\" at this point, I don't think anyone would give her shit. Continuing to dickride him at this late date is not helpful. \n\nYou're supposed to stir it up in there, AOC. You're playing pat-a-cake with someone who is going to insult you and backstab you at every turn anyway. It's bad strategy.",
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"content": ">pat-a-cake\n\nWhy is this desecration of the American language not being addressed?",
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"content": "It looks wrong. Doesn't it?? I wasn't sure how to spell it either, so I Googled it. I saw it spelled Patty Cake and Pat A Cake. I didn't really get a definitive answer, so I just chose the spelling I saw online more often. [Here's](https://thesingerscorner.com/history-of-the-patty-cake-song/) some interesting history about the song.",
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"content": "Literally everywhere on the internet today, it’s about to be an unbearable 4 months",
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"content": "America is a an evil state only surpassed by cartoonishly evil states in history.\n\nThat is just the sad truth.",
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"content": "What state surpasses the USA in human suffering? Even the Nazis developed the mf Holocaust based on the USA's Manifest Destiny that took a 100 million indigenous population down to a few million, in 2024.",
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"content": "The USA has probably done more harm because it's been around longer, but the intentions of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were certainly the most evil. British empire takes the cake though lol.",
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"content": "idk \"killed tens of millions of people to make the world safe for blue jeans and coca cola\" is as evil an intention as any other state in history.",
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"content": "Better than \"killed tens of millions of people because we hate them\"",
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"content": "Obviously I have no clue what the average voter thinks, but I am personally exhausted by Biden trying to stay in the race. I never really liked and or normally wouldn’t vote for Kamala, but I’m so exhausted by Biden that I am actually excited by the prospect of being able to vote for Kamala. So if it excites the voter then she might be able to mobilize the base into actually beating Trump.",
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"content": "I never thought I would be happy to vote for Kamala Harris. But here I am agreeing with this comment.",
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"content": "Why are you happy to vote for Kamala Harris now?",
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"content": "Because she’s not ancient",
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"content": "Hi guys.\n\nSo I really love this community. Hasan has done a lot for me. He's helped me to become a good person.\n\nThis community has been a beacon of growth for me and I'm super grateful.\n\nBut on my journey I eventually stumbled upon the issue of veganism and I donno, I kinda - following a lot of the logic I learned here - thought that vegans were right in a lot of what they were saying. \nSo I decided to properly check out all of their arguments and watch vegan documentaries and really open myself up to the possibility that vegans might be right, and long story short- I decided that they were, and now I'm a vegan.\n\nAnd I donno.. It's like now that I am, it's like I'm seeing things from a whole new perspective, and I feel like all of the arguments people here make for humans, can be applied to animals, and it just feels like a whole lot of people are preaching about how we should be better, while being complicit in one of the biggest horrors that exists.\n\nI feel like.. Like you know how we call what's going on in Gaza a genocide? Because.. well because it is a genocide. But people who don't get that accuse us of using inflammatory language? \nBut then vegans will say that what's happening to animals is an animal holocaust. And I feel like that's true. They're literally confined in cages for their entire lives, and then killed. Pigs are literally gassed to death. Like... You don't get more holocaust than that. \nBut then Hasan dismisses veganism and thinks that vegans are being extra with their views...\n\nI don't know. \nJust like how it's difficult for you guys to be part of democratic spaces that are in support of what Israel is doing; I too find it hard to be part of this space when you guys are in support of what the meat industry is doing.\n\nI don't if that sounds dumb? But that's how I feel and I'd just like to know what you guys think about this issue.\n\nI'm not really looking to argue or convince anyone to go vegan, but I am wondering why people in this community aren't as a whole opposed to animal farming, and in particular- factory farming. \nIt's just like- if farming animals causes harm to animals, and there are viable alternatives, then how do you justify eating animal products?\n\nTl;dr: Why aren't you vegan?",
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"content": "You're not going to like my answer. But I'm just going to be 100% honest. I value human life way more than other animal life.",
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"content": "I dated a vegan girl a year ago and while I agree morally with most of their positions there were a few that were straight up insane. She took me to this ted talk type thing about veganism and the presenter compared animals in slaughterhouses to African slaves and said that eating meat is \"specieism\" and specieism is fundamentally no different from racism.",
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"content": "Yeah I think people kinda lose sight of things and end up making the concept look bad. But when you see all living beings as equally deserving of the same respect and treatment, it can be hard to rationalize the carnivorous world we live in. Especially if you don't have the tools to understand how capitalism plays a part in it.\n\nI don't eat meat, I don't think people should. Both from a moral and environmental perspective. Eating meat is luxury we can't afford anymore, and it's also something we shouldn't have to do with the food available to us. But culturally you can't easily just get people to stop eating meat so I dunno. I'm full doomer on that aspect of it and just do what I can personally without really saying much to other people what I think they should do if not asked",
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"content": "Obama tells allies Biden needs to reconsider his re-election bid, WaPo reports. It's over for Biden.",
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"content": "I kinda want Biden to stay in to spite the dems lol. If we can't get a progressive candidate i rather anger as many libs as possible they made this mess, they can own it.",
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"content": "And you just know that if Biden does drop out and the dems still lose against Trump it's gonna be an eternity of \"BIDEN WOULDA WON\" from these people.",
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"content": "And if he stays in and loses it’s gonna be blamed on unruly democrats or blamed on Biden himself.",
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"content": "Dude is so stubborn.",
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"content": "I am so done with boomers. So selfish and delusional and arrogant",
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"content": "He’s not a boomer, he’s older than boomers, silent generation.",
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"content": "I personally think he wrote in his mommy for President and Kaya as VP. Strongest party/coalition in existence, one begs for chicken tendys the other can make them.\n\nEdit: Since people are seemingly taking this seriously, it's a joke, wrong answers only.",
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"content": "I think when it comes down to it Hasan will ultimately vote to keep fascism out of the White House.",
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"content": "Do you think Anne and Kaya D. Piker will let fascism slide? The post is a joke btw.",
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"content": "Who am I kidding he'll vote Donal Thrum",
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"content": "I must be hallucinating because I saw asmon say he didn’t give a fuck that the Palestinians were being genocided. Only to turn around and say he’s against genocide and then say he was just referring to the “inferior ideas” of the Palestinians? Also somebody please tell hasan to play this pos video for him. ",
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"content": "I’m asking a honest question here from a place of ignorance: why does some streamer guy’s opinion matter? What makes him apparently meaningful or influential? \n\nI’m old and just work all the time then read, for context.",
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"content": "Because he has a massive audience and will influence what a ton of other people, especially young people, think",
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"content": "And Hassan isn't? So . What are you saying we don't listen to Hasan aswell?",
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"content": "Not everyone listens to Hasan. My sister used to listen to Hasan and then she fell down the alt right pipeline and now she only listens to asmongold",
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"content": "A woman listening *only* to Asmongold, a filthy ratty-looking incel, is quite surprising. \n\nSurely there are more palatable right-wing talking heads for female audiences. The female creators or the more conventionally attractive men. Really? Asmon of all people? Why!?",
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"content": "I couldn't tell you, my relationship with my sister has been rough recently. From what I can tell she's been listening to him for years. It's really hard for me because we used to be close but I don't think there's much I can do about her at this point.",
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"content": "Yeah, at a point, you just gotta accept that your sister sucks.",
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"content": "Biden officially drops out!",
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"content": "So, what now? Kamala presidential candidate? And who's gonna be the VP candidate? I think potentially someone like Whitmer, Kelly, or Shapiro. I think Newsom is too unpopular and he's from California (2x Cali ticket is probably too much) UPDATE: BIDEN ENDORSES KAMALA",
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"content": "I’d love Big Gretch, but I’m betting it’ll be Shapiro. Pennsylvania is a must win, and I imagine he polls well in the rest of the Midwest.",
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"content": "They ain't going with the two woman ticket. \n\nUnfortunately that is too risky.",
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"content": "Another case of fuckem until it affects me. No empathy whatsoever for others outside of their family.",
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"content": "At least empathy for own kids, that isn't sth they have always either.",
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"content": "LegalEagle Confirmed Based via Hasan’s IG",
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"content": "Whoa, I’ve never seen Devin and Hasan interact so this is quite a surprise! Is this a known thing?\n\nThat is a real glazed up inscription he wrote!",
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"content": "I think he has mentioned legaleagle several times on stream. I’m surprised he hasn’t done more reacts to his breakdowns. They’re very good if people wanna learn about the law in general",
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"content": "Yeah, I never miss a LegalEagle post and I see most of Hasan’s content via the industrial clippistry but I have never heard either of them reference the other. \n\nLike even when Hasan has watched a LegalEagle vid I don’t recall him saying ‘friend of the show’ or anything.",
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"content": "I don't believe they are personal friends, or anything. I think Hassan has had a lot of professional respect for Devin, and this message certainly suggests that it's mutual, but I assume Devin wants to keep his channel welcoming to most comers and doesn't want to publicly associate with people who are seen as being on the fringes of the political spectrum.",
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"content": "I have definitely picked up secret lefty vibes from LegalEagle. He tries to play things pretty evenhanded but his commentary is all about how fucked the justice system can be.",
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"content": "when i was more of a baby leftist, it was super comforting to have the realization that there are a lot of lowkey lefties who try to contribute nudges in the right direction. kinda random but i think about it often and your comment reminded me of it lol",
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"content": "Ukraine does have a Nazi issue…",
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"content": "The world has a Nazi issue.",
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"content": "idk we see these pictures all the time of Ukrainian soldiers being openly out and about Nazis, never Russian ones. Ofc there's Nazi's in Russia but it looks like they do a good job keeping them out of the army. I don't think it's fair to both sides it.",
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"content": "We're not bankrolling the Russians.",
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"content": "That's why I'm shocked the media doesn't report the inverse. Or do you mean Ukraine has nazis because the US pays them to be there?",
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"content": "If Zelensky bites it, it will Azov that do for him. Anyone who thinks they're an incidental presence in the Ukrainian ranks is a fool.",
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"content": "Kill me now 🤮 ",
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"content": "How long until Democrats start normalizing Trump and Bill Maher offers him an apology?\n\nThis is definitely a party that would stop their genocide, they're just waiting for you to vote for them one more time and they'll get it stopped right away /s",
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"content": "He doesn't have enough decorum. \n\nIf he could be just as awful but be more friendly he would be accepted. \n\nEg. JD Vance\n\n10 years from now JD vance will be liked by the Democratic party.",
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"content": "Very good point. But I also think you're imagining that it's not possible to have less decorum than Trump. Finding (or creating, as they did with Trump) a greater evil is a key pillar of DNC strategy.",
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"content": "Honestly the real concern is they find somebody who is as bad as Trump and has most of his charisma but is capable of putting on a friendly face and appealing to liberals the way JD Vance did during the debate. \n\nThat person is going to bring about full-blown fascism",
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"content": "Liberals' diapers were bursting while they screamed that Ron DeSantis was that person. The solution - this may surprise you - was to unconditionally pledge your support to Democrats 'just for now' (until next time of course)",
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"content": "Got messages from multiple Democrat PACs today with surveys very up front floating Kamala as the nominee and asking what I think her chances of beating Trump are.\n\nHope you all are coconut pilled and existing of all in which you live and what came before you this fine day.",
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"content": "Biden was gonna lose BEFORE the a-attempt. After this, the DNC is absolutely braindead if they dont put literally ANYONE else up",
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"content": "Nah thinking this attempt had any meaningful increase in Trump's win % is giving way more credit than needed",
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"content": "You are underestimating just how stupid the “moderate” voter is, theyre gonna see this and think “wow after all this and trump is still running, what a brave man he has my vote now” despite his shitass policies",
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"content": "Dude is so stubborn.",
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"content": "Who is supposed to replace him with 4 months left until the election?",
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"content": "Literally any coherent Democrat with a pulse, some name recognition, and the cognitive ability to do the job. \n\nHarris, Whitmer, Pritzker, Newsome, Buttigieg\n\nTake your pick! \n\nAll of these libs are terrible but Biden is in rapid cognitive decline at this point. Trump sounds coherent by comparison and that is pretty wild considering incoherence is Trump’s baseline.",
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"content": "On the Cody Ko situation: \n\nIm seeing the at the whole internet is dog pilling on Brittany Broski for her poorly worded statement. As a victim myself, I completely understand and agree with the criticism, but I’m frustrated at the fact im not seeing a FRACTION of that heat dedicated to the other 90% of the commentary community that’s stayed silent. I haven’t seen this heat dedicated towards Kurtis, Drew, Danny, Noel Miller, or anyone else. Hell Noel Miller is still actively working with Cody Ko and I haven’t seen nearly as much criticism against him. But Brittany is the worst person alive for being one of the few who have said anything at all because of some (admittedly) terrible word choices? \n\nI just feel women get absolutely no grace and have to be perfect in every way or they get so much worse flak while men get praised for doing the bare minimum, and sometimes less than that. \n\nBut maybe I’m a bit off base and I want to hear others thoughts on this situation. Am I missing something? \n\nNote: I know Brittany said some pretty disappointing statements when people asked her to talk about Palestine. But I’m speaking specifically to the Cody Ko situation. \n\n",
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"content": "Please add some context, what did she say?",
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"content": "I'm guessing people have an issue with the \"If it's proven to be true\" part? Yes, that's not the best thing to say and feels like she's hedging, but I think her statement as a whole is totally fine, imo.",
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"content": "Skies of Gaza",
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"content": "Incorrect. Israel hates blacks and gays regardless of who’s in office",
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"content": "A lot of us are Black, as there are both many black Jewish people, and many other Black people from several countries that have moved here/that we host as refugees.\n\nAs for \"hate gays\" - you are so clearly not familiar with Tel Aviv or with Israeli Liberals in general. It's a huge thing.\n\nThe truth is, not everything that checks some items on the 'evil checklist' checks every item on it.",
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"content": "\"Medieval Europe did not have antisemitism because they hosted Jews\". Does that sound alright to you?",
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"content": "Article literally said these claims couldn't be verified. Comments are exactly what you think.",
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"content": "\"oh you dont like the CIA? so you hate waffles?\" type shit",
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"content": "https://x.com/BlakPantherBabe/status/1831926312140984688",
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"content": "Me when I'm not mad enough about voting discourse so I have to find literally who tweets to get mad about.",
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"content": "I mean, the tweet is obviously satirizing Blue MAGA.",
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"content": "SOON",
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"content": "horses can't climb stairs",
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"content": "Tough but fair",
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"content": "I did some research and I was wrong, actually they can go up stairs but not down. So the poor thing is stuck in Warren's appartment.",
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"content": "What political stance does Hasan technically identify with? I see democratic socialist on his wikipedia page, is that it? I love daddy hasan and just wanna know what i can reference when friends and republican family members are wondering. \n\nEdit: Ty for all the jokes :) and for the honest takes. I’m trying to get people to watch him so these comments were helpful in describing his platform",
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"content": "Any stance that supports hawaiian shirts.",
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"content": "So...the boogaloo movement?",
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"content": "the bungalow movement",
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"content": "Trump shot, seen bleeding from his ear. Carried of stage. ",
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"content": "bet hogs will be saying the shooter was a trans liberal biden supporter",
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"content": "and the Hawk Tuah girl was a industry plant psyop for Biden",
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"content": "What do you guys think about Hakim?",
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"content": "He's the reason I actually started reading theory so I'm pretty grateful to him",
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"content": "He genuinely gave me the mindset of if you have a conversation between socialist and in the end you don’t have reading recommendations it was not a good conversation",
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"content": "Ethan calling Hasan extremely radical…",
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"content": "Genocide bad (radical extremist take)",
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"content": "Oh no you’re hummus",
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"content": "I think about this a lot lately",
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"content": "This a real Simpsons bit?",
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"content": "Yup it’s from the episode Bart gets an elephant",
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"content": "They were so fucking prescient.",
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"content": "It’s not prescient if all America has done its entire history is roll through the same few problems at different intensities.",
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"content": "This is true, but there was always an aura of the Democrats being confident and capable - even if they severely bungled things behind closed doors.\n\nI feel like the Democratic Party for the first time in history is being exposed as frauds to even normies and the mass media.",
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"content": "Why would we care where you're born? We're leftists, the location of your birth doesn't matter to us. If you said you're a zionist that would be a different story, but being a zionist and being Israeli are not the same thing.",
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"content": "It's not what I'm here to talk about, but I would say that Zionist probably means something completely different to me than it does to you. Please feel free to DM me if you want to talk about it, I think these conversations are important for us to understand each other.",
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"content": "If you support Israel’s apparent “right to exist,” you’re a Zionist. We don’t support that. There should be no Israel; rather, there should be a unified, socialist state called Palestine within which people of all faiths, religions, etc, flourish. Palestinians deserve their homes and land back, their culture back, etc. Full reparations to the Palestinians, full abolishment of settlers who don’t belong there, etc.\n\nThis is the correct position.",
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"content": "I'm asking you to put aside our differences and unite on a cause that could help almost 900k people who rent in Los Angeles. Please I'm really not here to fight anyone and I would not have divulged my origins if it was not completely obvious to anyone that reads my name, in seeking help on behalf of 20 people who are in a dire situation. You can educate me all you want, I'm open to listening, I think its important, and I would not have come here if I did not think that you were all capable of ignoring an obvious point of contention about me.",
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"content": "Right, congrats on being the spokesperson for your union. I'm not sure how I can contribute other than a small donation, if you have some way we can donate to the union.",
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"content": "right congrats on him being a zionist who support colonialism and the brutalization off #Palestinians\". How can we make sure that his union get a lot of money?",
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"content": "You're acting like this guy is in the IDF",
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"content": "They're an Ultra, looking for a witch hunt and a purity spiral to ride. Just a debate pervert on the left rather than the center.",
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"content": "Ethan calling Hasan extremely radical…",
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"content": "wasn't the 3rd episode of leftovers just 2 hours of Hasan explaining what socialism is? Did Ethan seriously think he wasn't a socialist or that he was just joking?",
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"content": "Yeah, he's just lying. I'm just not sure why he thinks his remaining fans will fall for this, his lying to people who literally watched the show. This weird type of gaslighting his audience won't work.",
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"content": "So, in my opinion, he started to slowly see himself as what he is a capitalist. Listening to Hasan sharing his own wealth with the people he works with and Hasans ethical pursuit in business made him feel insecure by his own way of conduct. \nI really think Ethan was on the path for a complete change, but as soon as he realised he might have to share more than he was willing, he took a different stance.\nI started to watch h3 in the days before he became a cometary channel i foubd Hasan from the whole pewdie pie thing but i alredy was kinda radicalized Hasan just helped me put alot of concepts i felt in words and honestly i push more radical on some stuff than even Hasan.\nSo no Ethan you did not radicalised anyone you are not a special guy you make funny videos on the internet we are capable of critical thinking this is not fox news we come here to acutally discuss and take stands i love when a centrist lib takes ao much credit for more or less nothing.\n\nImo \"social democrats\" is a capitalist cop out socialism is a social democratic system. What Ethan wants is a more socalist capitalism, which is not a sustainable model as capitalism does not allow for this.",
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"content": "Class traitor",
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"content": "Unions in the US are so cooked. Tf are you doing at a convention like this??",
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"content": "I'll tell ya what he did\n\nHe took a big smelly poop all over the RNC\n\n \n\nListen to the actual speech, he just used the inviation to talk about labour and workers rights\n\nHe was not supportive of the Republican agenda, just used their platform\n\n \n\nBut it's reddit and no one scracthes below the surface",
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"content": "> But it’s reddit and no one scracthes below the surface\n\ncome on, if anything Reddit is less like that than the general populace. Most people are going to take this as an endorsement, and that’s why nobody organizing the RNC cares at all if he says stuff that could be taken as against the republicans",
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"content": "Yeah , let's not start with this 2016 mentality again ",
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"content": "It's factually true though that 2024 Donald Trump is an extremely weak candidate. Far weaker than 2016 Donald Trump. \n\nIf Joe Biden were not a walking corpse he actually wins easily. The problem is Joe Biden can't even complete sentences coherently anymore and he needs his hand held to lead him off the stage and he has trouble walking up and down flights of stairs. He's just so senile and weak\n\nTrump is 8 years older and you can see signs that he's not as mentally Sharp. The same way you could see signs that 2020 Biden was not as mentally sharp as 2016 Biden.\n\nThe Republicans are victims of their own success. People blame the Republican party and specifically Trump for getting rid of Nationwide access to abortion. People are scared that Donald Trump will ban abortion Nationwide if he is elected president. \n\nConservative white women don't want to see abortion band.\n\nDonald Trump is a convicted felon now and Americans are kind of dumb about hating people with a criminal record.\n\nDonald Trump tried to convince the secretary of state of Georgia to overturn their election results. \n\nDonald Trump tried to use his fan base to intimidate Mike Pence into somehow decertifying the election results on January 6th. \n\nTrump has a lot of die hard supporters who see him as the champion of white people and The last Hope of white people but that's actually a minority of people who typically vote Republican. \n\nIf Andy Beshear was the Democratic nominee I would be placing thousands of dollars on him in any bookmaker I could find to win the presidency. \n\nKamala Harris unfortunately is not that charismatic and had a disastrous primary campaign in 2020 where she was picked as the FrontRunner by multiple people in lib podcasts I listened to but ended up not even making it to the Iowa caucuses because she was such a weak candidate. \n\nShe also doesn't have white privilege or male privilege.",
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"content": "Trump is weak but he has always been very difficult to beat regardless.",
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"content": "Not really.\n\nBiden won relatively easily\n\nIn 2016 he was unknown and Hillary is incredibly hated",
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"content": "Every time I think Israelis can’t get any lower, they shock me.\n\n",
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"content": "R.I.P. \n\nOne of my uncle's cousins had downs and he was the kindest person I ever knew. Even my sleazy corrupt uncle went out of his way to get him a job at a local zoo.",
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"content": "My ex husband's brother had it. Sweetest souls on earth. \n\nI want to watch Israel burn.",
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"content": "We all do, brother. It's time will come.",
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"content": "Not a Biden fan, but this has been in my mind for a while now. ",
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"content": "TDS\n\nEdit: you don't have to vote for either old genocidal maniac. don't start with the \"no vote/3rd party votes is a vote for trump\". It's not. If you're scared of Trump but not Biden, read more.",
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"content": "Interesting theory, if only there were dozens and dozens of photos of Trump standing next to Jeffery Epstein to prove otherwise",
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"content": "It's not that he hasn't done those things, we all know he did. the issue is thinking that Biden is the lesser of two evils when he's just as evil, just more careful. We go after him more to bring that to light to hopefully get less and less people to support him. We need tons of people even here say they will vote biden. That's the issue.\n\nwe know how horrible trump will be, there's been 8 years of negatively covering him and only recently has biden been covered in a similar way.",
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"content": "Sorry but in terms of policy Biden is far less evil than Trump and I can’t believe that’s a controversial take.",
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"content": "He was tougher on the borders, He had Kamala literally tell people not to come to America, he let Roe get overturned with no plan in place or any semblance of urgency, he ramped up the genocide to levels never seen before since oct 7th, did nothing for Universal healthcare or at least the ACA didn't pack the courts or extend the supreme court, didn't get rid of the electoral college, so on and so on, what did he do that was even good? Look at his record on unions too. His inaction was as disastrous as Trump's actions. Did Biden deliver on any campaign promise to leftists?\n\nTrump make the country worse, Biden told him \"hold my beer\". If either of the two win, it's going to get even worse, painting Biden as better than trump instead of equally as bad is essentially propaganda for the libs. I exaggerated in saying TDS, but there's not much more to dunk on trump that we haven't already.",
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"content": "Roe v Wade was overturned by Trump appointed justices. Biden never said he was going to pack the courts so I didn’t expect that. His records on unions? He’s the most pro union president of my lifetime (idk how old you are I’m just speaking for me) and the NLRB got much stronger under his administration. Biden has done quite a lot for unions however yes that rail road strike he busted was terrible in his part. You won’t catch me defending what he’s doing in Gaza, but Trump will be significantly worse. Remember Trump used Palestinian as a racial slur against Biden so this is a man that has absolute zero sympathy for them as a people. He also says Israel should finish the job”. Trump talks about deporting Palestine protesters. It’s obvious Trump is significantly worse.",
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"content": "Joe Biden is actively president with presidential immunity, if he cares about all that he would take action. He doesn't care, same as trump. They both just want money and power and to fuel their hubris, they are both the same scum of the earth.",
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