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energy thats kind of infused pervades through everything
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so it sounds like at some point in your process of deepening youve actually shifted to location two
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and layer two of location one
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paying attention to and selecting the choice that
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i suspect you are probably you have probably touched upon layer four and location two for a while
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love a yes so its just that yeah i guess the word just has so many different connotations much more than what i have now i think it just kept trying to go more and then it kept being a little blocked so like i guess probably just the beginning stages of location three or just i dont know i dont like maybe it was really deep location two layer three i just dont know how like magical
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changes in encoding
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under huge dome
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not having love for family
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sometimes the layer to spaciousness location two layer two stuff comes in spontaneously as a result of just the right environment or circumstances typically relating to the safety thing
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something into this experience of two so my experience of this has you know its just now releasing a lot of the as of a couple of days ago thought it might be wise to look at this yeah so so ive been experiencing you know this very strange weird nonduality type
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alien quality
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infused with a panpsychist sense
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depending upon their individual capability in this area finders may be able to choose to observe the orienting response feel the physiological sensation or first inklings of thought that they know will soon bring anger and consciously note it
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so that makes a lot of sense okay so lets then think about location three lets see if we can find a location three type experience in layer three
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okay unprovoked happiness does happen to be the method that is most reliable for getting finders to location four
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emotional
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um most people dont really retain fluidity to location one but it does happen
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annoyance or sort of impatience of the situation
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freedom the piece mainly that its so peaceful
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the reason i would call it nonduality is because theres a slight memory of what it was like to be dual and its almost like a faint imprint and its not i guess because its not there and theres greater connection almost like my eyes are slightly glazed over or like in like no subject object or out or less
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of course you know all to some degree when you go to location for all bets are off
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the sense of perfection experienced in location 4 convinced the process happening within this finder that it did not matter where someone was in life or consciousness it seemed like everything truly was and could only be perfect and that this would be true regardless of whether she remained in location 4 or returned to an earlier location
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well im thinking of like two things now it was i did think i glimpsed location for for a while and there there there were no emotions like like at all uh and its very very quiet there and like i was yeah i felt like like like i was just or not even i but like whatever just being like thought it that way and then just being just doing things on its own and like theres no me anymore for a while so that one is pretty clear i think yeah there werent emotions in that at that point
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but at the same time it had some of these nondual qualities
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like even right now im feeling a little bit the gosh its its its like a warmth right here in my in my you know kind of chest and just torso you kind of stomach area um and just i wouldnt its in the family of joy but i wouldnt call it joy necessarily its also the related to this idea that just and you know that everything is going to be okay but its somehow stronger than that well theres a few things
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four so the information on the layers was just me edging out for my peace palace from location four you know annemiek said something about locations it didnt really occur to me that you could change locations that quickly you know you used to have the fluid four and you had the concept where you change locations
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like theres just a presence
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include very lowlevel brain processes
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but it is important to note you have little selves in there something is arising right back when youre at location one
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it feels like its everything and nothing
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there is one noticeable memory issue that seems to be a reliable and genuine deficit while most common with location 4
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location four definitely adds a whole new perspective and can decondition a lot especially if one deepens there um but yeah save that for when you feel the timing is good
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so thats thats all the qualities of location three there that fell away along with agency and any sense of self
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i think i think the anxiety is is kind of a negative emotion that invades the emotionlessness um also some in trying to figure this all out im interested in knowing to what degree this is influenced by trauma whether its avoidant attachment style it feels like a lot of this stuff is vulnerable to kind of pre trans fantasies so is this transcendence or is this just trauma you know am i am i checking out in a dissociative trauma induced avoidant attachment space or am i spread out across the universe how are they the same how are they the different different my own explorations of trauma is i hear from people that are close to me notably my wife that she thinks that i have lots of trauma in my system but when i go look for it or try to treat it i cant find it you know i can do emdr till the cows come home and it doesnt touch it which tells me well is it really trauma or not so you know im very confused about all of this so i just wanted to inject that into this space to
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location 1 finders often become much less interested in the stories the people around them tell
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so i was tripping over the the definition of i think its location three layer three around one singular emotion so the word emotion was tripping me because dont feel that as something localized to this form but theres a theres a tonal quality to that space or a i dont know how to maybe a frequency sensation
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i think most christians have a more temporary experience of that theyre not as rooted in to location two layer three and you know their prayers occasionally work i think when they work theyre closer sort of in that type of direction or whatever and so you can you can maintain fluidity use location to layer three like that and not you know not have to lock that in for any period of time
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meaningful relationships
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location 2 finders experience a further reduction in their narrativeself related thoughts and in the emotional content of most of the ones that remain
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LOC2
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location four layer two when youre really locked into it just feels like some intense dark night of the soul you know maybe the most intense dark night of the soul experience that you could possibly imagine
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location 4 finders say they do not have a sense of agency individuals at locations 2 and 3 can also comment that there is no doer this is related to the earlier discussion of there being no seer or hearer etc
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more positive than negative emotions
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i would encourage you to not be communicating to the system that any aspect of fluidity is bad even location one
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so those other components are potentially there that you know can sort of come together into that composite of into that composite emotion for location three
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sense of self often becomes larger and feels like it expands beyond the physical body
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LOC1
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a location one standpoint
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that emotional component might also be more obvious
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the love joy compassion love they they seem different to themselves like love is different than joy is different than compassion
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okay great so thats our main test for nonduality its very clean you know its just straight perception there isnt some question around some how does your sense of self feel or something like that nonduality is a perceptual thing so it can be tested with perceptual means so we know now that youre at least in a nondual location it sounds like you have some range of emotionality you talked about how they drop off quicker but theyre obviously still present
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LOC2
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finders typically seem completely normal in social
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union with the divine
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LOC3
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deconditioning environment
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LOC4
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location two has so many different possible experiences in it
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location 4 individuals have reported shifts to twodimensional instead of threedimensional visions
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however if i dont really have to i can sink in pretty deep but i think i can reach into layer three of location two
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LOC2
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headless i think that was probably the first time i encountered it doing the ruler experiment were they how far away is everything from you and then that sense that everything is just like a postcard its just perceptually here theres theres no spatial depth so like you know layer two that sense of spaciousness but then that collapses that just disappears its a perceptual flatness
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recondition
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great for relationships
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location for you might have that repeat again with temporary glimpses of location 5 or 6
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it triggers the the the persona who is rewarded for her intelligence was paid to be a management consultant to analyze massive data sets and i dont want to be in that uh space but i can feel that theres a residual
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LOC3
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you know some of the things in terms of location two
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unless you want to be in location one or something
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because their own emotions arent influencing the situationas weve seen in this chapter peace or the disturbance of it is often of utmost importance to the success of finders committed relationships
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to a location 4 finder it feels like the debate is just happening it does not feel as if the person as an individual is wrapped up in it
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finders in this situation have deepened on the continuum while needing to hide their inner experience of fundamental wellbeing from those around them
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lightly nondual
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LOC2
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feeling of ease and clarity and lightness just kind of very almost dancing
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questioning beliefs and dropping beliefs and basically happiness and love was seen in that system to be a choice
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instead a very different truth might emerge to take its place
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there is a really kind of deliciousness in that sense of union
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when temporary there are finders who can intentionally bring it about and others who just have it happen to them from time to time regardless of how it occurs in this state the world seems to be moving through them and not the other way around generally this occurs at location 4 and beyond
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energy that infused everything
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i think it s more because i feel more connected to other people as well
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pulls you out of location to
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divine or being in union
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it its not so difficult so it does not take so much work for location three is somehow easier
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although a soulless version of a dark night of the soul the soul word doesnt make a lot of sense to them um and so there are these there are such significant changes identity wise for you in that leap from layer three to layer four location four
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you dont have to fear location one you can leave access to duality as part of this
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most of the time youre probably going between location one
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layer three and location three
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its more a reaction
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vision stuff and all of that obviously sounds dead on
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so this is a great opportunity in your case because that s a big difference being going between layer two of location two
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LOC2
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location five feels as flat as location four
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empathetic
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LOC3
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unfolding
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LOC4
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location 2
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volcano of aliveness and a lot of creative power
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you also referred to it like theres a feeling of being yeah or feeling of being alive
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so the reason i say mostly is because i have had deeper experiences of the nonduality so even the nonduality i feel now theres still because i have deeper experiences of it i dont know if probably deep deep location too because there was still a little agency or emotion or maybe just temporary elements of going further theres still my system just still sees that theres still that like within that nonduality theres still a duality
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LOC2
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even though their love for their partner is not personal they are so outwardly loving and caring that the person usually cannot tell it only becomes a problem if discussed and their partner cannot deal with the idea of it
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LOC3
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yeah like yeah after the first after the transition to like location one
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back into location one
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sense of freedom
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LOC4
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connect very deeply with this sensation of energy that i feel and uh losing myself in it then yes yes but i dont do that i dont i dont tend to go that far and yeah like im a mother i run a business so i tend to be much more i think layer layer one layer two yeah thats modus operandi this
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joy experience
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nondual space
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quieting of thoughts or the other stuff
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LOC2
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still in the habit of laughing at a broad range of things especially in social situations
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LOC1
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