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default is more silence and more peace and more distance from thoughts and emotions you might be rooted in layer two during those times
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lay2
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result in those sorts of characteristics that we have listed underneath location two and the charts and stuff
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loc2
| 18 |
but now if i feel into the spaciousness it doesnt have boundaries it doesnt have it doesnt really end no so the space seems endless
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lay2
| 26 |
ill drift back out to usually like layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
if you the degree to which you want a lot of fluidity is more or less the degree to which youre willing to resist various gravities that show up at different points in fundamental wellbeing
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tfw
| 22 |
the ego in lay one is active and attached to things like thinking emotion strategizing and logicing things out believing in itself and its importance and pulling me in with addictive pleasure and pain
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loc3lay1
| 8 |
deep and profound presentmoment experience
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tfwc
| 23 |
my body is constantly being expanded perfected tweaked
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nfw
| 21 |
location one i feel a little bit of noise id say and conditioning yeah my conditioning comes to the foreground
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loc1
| 17 |
but you can do a couple of things so you can probe for the visual effects that occur at location five
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loc5+
| 16 |
boredom thing
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lay2
| 26 |
the craftsmanship of location 1 layer 4 reflects more than skill it embodies the essence of creation a dialogue between maker and material
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
god without it feeling divine
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
it was just feeling kind of centerless but now its feeling like there is some kind of a feeling of connected fullness
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lay3
| 27 |
when the association with this sense of self falls away the smoothing function also falls away and the distinct parts appear less integrated and related this can be very apparent by the time someone reaches layer 3
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loc2lay1
| 4 |
disassembly and reintegration
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loc5+
| 16 |
visual effects and the sensory glitches
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loc5+
| 16 |
this will often lead location 1 finders to doubt whether they are experiencing fundamental wellbeing persistently however usually the fluctuations they experience involve changes in depth within location 1 and not in and out of fundamental wellbeing
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loc1lay1
| 0 |
in location 1 layer 4 the act of creation whether in art music or words is a dialogue with the divine a channel for universal truth
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
okay cool you said my dominant experience is aliveness impersonal love fullness deliciousness bliss used to be contentment now a more subtle vibration of bliss a lot of lovely sensations feelings energy
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lay3
| 27 |
like that joy is always there
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lay3
| 27 |
i guess sort of like a flowing
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lay3
| 27 |
seems like the looker is there looking out your eyes
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loc1
| 17 |
a divine experience
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loc3
| 19 |
location three or whatever
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loc3
| 19 |
its kind of a um in terms of deepening into fundamental wellbeing its a little bit more like the teaching its a teaching which is corrective but is not itself an expression of what the truth is
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tfw
| 22 |
i want to say infinite completeness
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lay4
| 28 |
so like i tend to function at location one in the mind i think but but with the exercise that we did with the introspection exercise um i could sort of feel space around my body um and and or behind my body really like i guess ive got it written down here some of the notes i took um so im feeling of of existing beyond my body um especially the back of my body like the back of my body doesnt exist and this can change so it feels like my my body doesnt exist um can feel like the body this way and and our space im moving through the world
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loc1lay3
| 2 |
deep into layer 3 it will feel as though it is the substance of everything on the more shallow end layer 3 feels more like an essence or presence infusing experience as though it pervades but is simultaneously independent of everything it feels untouched and untouchable it can also be perceived as have a quality of innate intelligence beyond that of the linear conceptual mind
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
in layer four
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lay4
| 28 |
theres no love version of location four
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loc4
| 20 |
and layer three is like has a fullness
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lay3
| 27 |
this is partly because one is unable to deepen into it and stabilize in it and partly because it cannot be known objectivelyor even subjectively in the usual sense
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loc3lay4
| 11 |
sense of fullness and presence
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lay3
| 27 |
costs me energy
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nfw
| 21 |
someone is just watching the process unfold without feeling as though they are doing any of it
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loc4lay1
| 12 |
it doesnt feel differentiated but like it doesnt feel like theres too much of a differentiation between me and the room and so the aliveness that i feel inside of me and my energy i guess is yeah i dont i dont see a clear distinction between that and whats going on around me
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lay3
| 27 |
in location three
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loc3
| 19 |
lots of love
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loc3
| 19 |
was able to settle back into fundamental wellbeing after it got shaken up
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tfwp
| 24 |
emotional strength and or stickiness of narrativeself related thoughts
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loc1
| 17 |
you have a very undifferentiated experience of presence and of layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
psychic sensing stuff
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nfw
| 21 |
mind is mostly silent
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loc5+
| 16 |
it all is just there
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lay3
| 27 |
it feels like theres no becoming it or no entering it
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loc4
| 20 |
having vanished for these participants
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loc4
| 20 |
mathematically inclined minds
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lay3
| 27 |
infusion of energy
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lay2
| 26 |
but when i met a person i just recall what love felt like
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loc4
| 20 |
i notice those visual effects that i described when i was in location one
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loc1
| 17 |
the first which will be referred to as the path of freedom pof
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loc5+
| 16 |
there are a handful of sects that directly focus on location 4 and even 5
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loc5+
| 16 |
looker or a seer
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lay2
| 26 |
so that makes a lot of sense okay so lets then think about location three lets see if we can find a location three type experience in layer three
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
what about a sense of being in union with something either the divine or you know like an all conscious presence of sorts but not being one with it not being it right yeah but being you know sort of increasingly merging in with it
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
top end of location three
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loc3
| 19 |
the experience of everything is reduced to raw sense data and it feels as though it is all just existence unfolding spontaneously
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loc2lay4
| 7 |
it feels like i am this empty space or openness i like openness just this openness kind of thing yeah
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loc2lay2
| 5 |
i have consistent access to joy and equanimity at minimum but im always like its fantastic
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lay3
| 27 |
persistent nonsymbolic experience
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tfwc
| 23 |
youve gotten a lot of distinctions in your own sort of conscious experience
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loc5+
| 16 |
do not report feeling any divinity at all
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loc3
| 19 |
so it would be to do the charmed life version of the layers and locations mastery and but to explore fundamental wellbeing in general
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loc2
| 18 |
thoughts as well as a continued reduction in the
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loc2
| 18 |
conditioning
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loc2
| 18 |
panpsychist sort of love
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loc3
| 19 |
moments of prayer
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tfwc
| 23 |
from an apparently loving place
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loc4lay3
| 14 |
space thats deceiving everything but its all showing up as one thing
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lay2
| 26 |
so thats awesome and then beyond that you are interested in potentially also getting fluid to location three
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loc3
| 19 |
the nature of self and other is much subtler in location 3
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loc3
| 19 |
layer one in lay one is existential focusing on meaning and purpose with thought streams and highs and lows in energetic variation allconsuming and able to block access to perception of other levels
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loc3lay1
| 8 |
fullness is three
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lay3
| 27 |
talk about feeling that they extend beyond their body
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loc5+
| 16 |
sense of beingness
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lay3
| 27 |
there is an ever greater depth of stillnesssilence and an incomparable quality of freedom and peace which is the classical freedom from suffering pursued by spiritual traditions for millennia
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loc4lay4
| 15 |
centerless beingness
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lay3
| 27 |
non sensory perception of layer three that youre calling an aliveness or or vibratory quality in everything thats not localized in the body then that can be an experience of layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
direction
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loc4
| 20 |
we havent heard anything i havent heard anything that you know sort of makes me think otherwise you know i agree it is a it is a bit of a hitch right because if you do mention that because of the strength of the habit and the system of the eyes and the looking out and the fact that that probably actually is how visual perception is working of course yeah um and all of that it becomes very easy to sort of reconstitute it but its its reconstituted typically in a situation like this in such a light way
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loc2
| 18 |
being concerned with meaning and purpose
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lay1
| 25 |
especially the more i talk and interact and engage thats usually the place that i speak from
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lay1
| 25 |
because thats a tough place to be so if you and they doubt probably and they often doubt that they are even in fundamental being at that point because its such a difficult place to be it feels like they left fundamental wellbeing and entered a dark night of the soul of some kind
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tfwp
| 24 |
layer one
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lay1
| 25 |
location three is where its separate
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loc3
| 19 |
less of the love but it was this sense of
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loc4
| 20 |
um the you know the sense of the divine can absolutely be there in location two and layer three the sense of fullness the sense of presence um all of that can be there so those arent useful differentiators um the primary thing to look for would be the core characteristics of location three in contrast to location two rather than looking at the characteristics of layer three which are the ones youve listed
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
stillness or silence that you can possibly sense in in layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
mature
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tfw
| 22 |
spacious emptiness thing
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loc2
| 18 |
so tell me about when you think you switched to location two
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loc2
| 18 |
i dont feel like i cant be in layer three around andrea right now it doesnt actually feel like its problematic at this moment i sort of feel like yeah i feel like the the conditioning at this point is largely historical but yeah i mean its definitely its shes shes still got sort of what i would describe as her externalized superego conditioning that comes active from time to time and that that is always very that can pull me right down into layer one i think i mean when i say pull me down i dont mean i start reidentifying but just like im in that place where like you know
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lay1
| 25 |
because its actually not that hard to influence someone thats in location four
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loc4
| 20 |
i think you have to be very careful in taking a peak experience from prior to fundamental well being and trying to sort of parse it and find sort of different aspects of fundamental well being in it because youre bringing the and its its its everyone does it i think you know that has had these experiences that what sets us off on this journey right i mean these temporary experiences whether they were in drugs or whether they were just happening out of the blue for someone theyre often sort of what sets people off on a journey like this
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tfw
| 22 |
union with
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loc3
| 19 |
i think the emptiness is a different one
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lay2
| 26 |
so theres just that impersonal divine or universal kind of love joy compassion um and because you know no negative emotion can get triggered
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loc3
| 19 |
you can just play with it for a bit and see like add it as something you can use for deconditioning and then spend the next session really deepening into the location three type direction of layer three and see if you can make that switch
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
thinking of a memory or the person in your environment
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loc3
| 19 |
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