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good morning brother. good morning chief. so 501, what we were proposing to do is, that we can list this batch of matters on the 2nd of august.

the nodal counsel on their side may have to be....

and also an impleadment my lord. we just told you what to do.

give a copy to the.... i have taken....

my lord, i will take the copy.

there is no difficulty. taking a copy is not a problem.

mr. mehta, just one minute. it is an order my lord.

kindly see.... impleadment of a political party....

alright. insofar as the impleadments are concerned, please take it that we are not going to shut anybody out like this.

very well. but everybody will have to ration time.

yes. because once the first two or three counsel have argued the matter, then the others know what has been covered, what ground has been covered.

therefore, time has to be apportioned otherwise matter is...

who is the nodal counsel on your side?

absolutely my lords, we did it in the same sex marriage case....

shah faesal.... my lords, there is.... only a minute, only a minute.

there is also.... alright, one thing. the two nodal counsel, mr. prasanna and mr. kanu agarwal, insofar as the intervention applications are concerned, please ensure that the intervention applications are also given to the two nodal counsel.

you can prepare in the index, a separate head for the intervention application number, who it will be in file to and the arguing counsel.

so that, ideally if both of you can tabulate for us what the essence of the intervention is, that will facilitate....

only one aspect.... there is only one small housekeeping detail my lords.

in the lead petition, in the first petition in which i'm appearing out of seven petitioners, two petitioners have moved applications to be deleted.

those may be allowed my lords, and we'll give the amended cause title.

so now five petitioners will remain out of seven.

the cause title will have to change accordingly.

mr. prasanna. mr. prasanna, and.... it was mr. kanu agarwal will be on our side.

those who want to be deleted would like to be deleted today my lords.

what is the ia number? and who are the two petitioners?

who are the two petitioners who want to be deleted?

one is my lords, dr. shah faesal, the first petitioner, and ms. shweta...

that is an ias officer my lords, working in the ministry.

therefore, he possibly doesn't want to continue.

we have no objection if there are other petitioners and others can argue.

number three, shehla rashid. these two don't want to continue.

five others will continue. yeh number le lijiye.

numbers? one and three. one and three, naam ley lijiye.

so whatever my lord, your lordships may consider fixing a date before which all parties can add to the....

she will be deleted from the array of parties.

the application for deletion.... 1099. .... is not opposed.

the application for deletion is hence allowed.

and we'll file amended cause title. amended cause title shall be filed within a period of one week.

grateful. my lords, it's my duty to bring to your lordship's notice, there is a judicial order passed by your lordships my lord, in this group of matters which says the registry is directed not to entertain any other writ petitions on these issues in future.

therefore, i was saying that she may file an intervention.

ultimately, she wants to be heard. nobody would object, ms. guruswamy to be heard.

because otherwise there would be many petitions coming thereafter.

you can treat your write petition as an intervention application.

i will not oppose the.... the thing is that, you have to be heard.

so we can really say that they can do that at least a week before the hearing.

we'll hear you and so that in that petition you say....

otherwise many more will come. that's the....

.... intervention application, and shall be renumbered.

my lords because this batch of cases known as with shah faesal's name because that's the lead petition.

it's going to change now with his deletion.

i had a suggestion in these large batch matters, if you can just put it in re the issue and that can be the heading.

this concerns article 370. it can be in re article 370 because every time the name changes, very difficult to keep track of where.....

there is one petitioner who is already there to request your lordships to treat him as a first petitioner.

that maybe.... as long as that.... online, online.

online fastest finger fast, that i filed it first so it should....

so if parties complete everything on the 26th, which is wednesday, that will give all of you enough time.

, last time, my lord. justice kaul very aptly said that you are doing that fastest finger first.

you file it first.... we'll call this as in re article 370.

yes. with a consent of all learned counsel and at their request, the cause title of the proceedings for convenience of reference shall be as follows: "in re, article 370 of the constitution." 501 (i), one of the petitioners passed away .

we may be permitted to file an application .

somebody has passed away. one of the petitioner has passed away.

alright. your lordship. just delete that person.

a petition of this nature. naam ley lijiye.

the permission to delete so and so is granted.

the petition would abate. alas come my lord denied.

petitioner number 2. just write it down for the court master so we don't make a mistake on the name.

so we can actually say 25th, so that gives enough time now.

once you have the submission, we file the intervention application in 2019 also we given opportunity of it.

we've just said there but the interveners we will ration time the two nodal counsel shall prepare a list of interveners.

if there are 500 interveners we can't give everybody time to argue in the intervention application.

we'll see what to do. the time, filing of the fact petitions.

so we'll file later on the interventions.

alright, we'll see when it opens up.

the intervention.... will decide at the end how much time to allocate to the intervener.

we'll hear the main counsel first, and then we'll see what to do thereafter.

2nd of august.... 27th is the day for freezing all the submissions, pleadings, etc., and submissions, and the case law compilations.

no further pleadings shall be filed. and we have recorded the statement of the sg that does not have a bearing on constitutional....

my lords there also may be a need to file an additional affidavit as far as the serial no. 8 is concerned.

of course not. so 2nd we will start.

your lordship. he wants to redraw an ia.

you want to withdraw an ia? why?

what is the ia for? for intervention?

so we'll give it to the court master on a slip of paper, so we'll pass an order on that?

intervention dismissed. your lordship may allow me to...

your lordship please allow me to speak.

yes mr. manohar lal sharma. your lordship, this is a petition.

subject matter, what i said first, notify issue by the three judges' bench, thereafter it was referred to the five judges' bench, and notice was issued also by the five judges' bench.

pleading was directed to be completed. thereafter, one judgment also done for some intervention application.

so that liberty may be granted. we will do it within 10 days maximum.

now your lordship, my name has been removed.

some other name is there. i think this is not fair.

mr. manohar lal sharma, this is already an issue where you are appearing.

but now, to obviate all this, you have decided to call the proceedings, as in re, article 370 of the constitution', so that nobody feels that he should have been or she should have been the first petitioner.

we will... there is an article here....

notice was issued in my petition very first thing.

mr. sharma, mr. sharma, last time itself i told you, you will not do it like this.

so please don't repeat what we had rejected last time.

i recollect definitely. your lordship. brother kaul, thank you very much for joining in with us online. take care of your health

may i say.... brother kaul, we will ask them, they can then prepare the convenience compilation, add to the existing compilation, the usual directions that the two nodal counsels will sit together and make sure that they prepare a common convenience compilation.