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kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tnvmr | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tmzz8 | They don't get it really... The issue stopped being only about MHJ /NJ/HYBE long time ago it was matter of time that industry itself will step up and try to protect their money and investments. Who is gonna tolerate directors or idols acting this way and trash companies from inside , drag other idols or making claims without legit proof? 50/50 was a big issue already and NJs just proved that young people with easy success and shitty advisors /parents going nuts and start acting up like they are untouchable or Beyonse somehow . They won't allow it and will make sure these new contracts will be wayyy stricter than already been . | 2024-12-13T15:41:41 | 41 | 0 | 41 | Away_Limit_6275 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1to7sq | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tj5nq | >Now idols will be binded by even stricter contracts because of yall's selfishness 👏
I don't even think this issue with NewJeans is a problem with their contracts being too loose. There's a reason they didn't initiate a lawsuit to terminate, the overwhelming legal opinion seems to be that they don't have a winning argument for termination. They've had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for any slight perception of mistreatment to try and justify leaving and even then every one of their complaints has either been disputed or addressed. It really seems like their problems could be resolved with good faith dialogue with current Ador, without them constantly being told by MHJ that everyone is out to get them. Having such close contact with MHJ must be such a mind-warping experience. | 2024-12-13T15:44:58 | 27 | 0 | 30 | foundationsofthenine | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1to90s | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | Irdc what ablume did, they didn't hurt anyone but themselves. I support them | 2024-12-13T15:45:18 | -35 | 0 | -35 | Desperate_Exam3898 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tobmw | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tn0md | Yea, I went to the megathread and read they managed Circle Charts. Looks like Kchartsmaster is intentional mistranslating again - shouldn't have been surprised... | 2024-12-13T15:45:59 | 24 | 0 | 24 | piggichan | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1todvr | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tj74i | Hybe is on the board | 2024-12-13T15:46:35 | 2 | 0 | 2 | Far_Change9838 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1toi4l | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | Fuck these organisations who willfully allow companies to lock in teenagers to abusive contracts but who come down on individuals trying to escape said contracts.
I really don't give two fucks about the integrity of contracts in the industry. Let it all rip, maybe idols will actually be able to get a better deal if they can freely negotiate for themselves.
No rights have ever been gifted from an organisation of the bosses. | 2024-12-13T15:47:44 | -48 | 0 | -51 | qgjg | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1toi8c | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkf4u | Stans get annoyed by the mere point that no business person or investor would want a precedent where party to a contract can just walk out over petty issues. So here we are. | 2024-12-13T15:47:46 | 39 | 0 | 39 | Mwikali85 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1toq4t | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tj74i | I just looked at the KMCA website, and a lot of big companies are members of the association. Including Sony, Warner, and UMG... seems like a lot of doors are closing, or are on the verge of closing for the group. | 2024-12-13T15:49:52 | 52 | 0 | 52 | SensitiveCranberry20 | baby shaman dancing barefoot on the blades called the beat | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tpgn8 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1toq4t | I did assume that Hybe is part of the group because the KMCA is an industry association/group. I just meant, from the idea that 1 single company will perform the action, it turns out, it's the broader industry that could do it. | 2024-12-13T15:57:03 | 22 | 0 | 23 | rjcooper14 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tpojr | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | That dispatch article turned things around because they were not talking about this before. | 2024-12-13T15:59:14 | 17 | 0 | 17 | alexolivegarden | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tpugf | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | Those girls are gonna struggle to even get regular jobs, I think. They tied themselves to the worst anchor they could have possibly tied themselves too. Hope it was worth it girls! | 2024-12-13T16:00:53 | 2 | 0 | 2 | RuneofBeginning | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tpv4g | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tnvmr | Yep, the Kpop industry is a BUSINESS, and it survives on investments. People aren't going to continue to invest in something of it can just be stolen from them, especially when they have so many other options they can invest in instead.
There are so many other countries with their own entertainment industries that would kill for the investments and spotlight that SK has gotten, and as some of them continue to gain attention off of the back of Kpop, just like Kpop did with Jpop, these investors will pack up their money and leave if they think the Kpop industry is too much trouble.
This statement likely only conveys a very small fraction of the actual anger and frustration that tptb behind the scenes of the Kpop industry actually feels about NJs and Co because I know they are probably being ripped apart by angry stakeholders upset about everything.
You do not play about people's money, especially when we're talking about figures in the millions and up.
So many idols made sacrifices to make things easier for those who came behind them by fighting in court to fix some of the ills in the industry with contracts over the span of years. NJs and Co have likely undone a lot of that in the span of months. | 2024-12-13T16:01:04 | 33 | 0 | 33 | Ebony_Coco | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tq4iz | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkicb | It is just yapping.
1. Legally, newjeans' contract has been terminated. If those associations or companies continue interfering, there will be legal repercussions.
2. "Allegations" from gossip or speculative reporting are not a basis for action or sanction. Right now, this is simply defamation.
3. They are openly admitting they are willing to tamper with the rankings. This contradicts their stance against tampering. They are hypocrites. This is also likely illegal and could be classified as anti-competitive behavior. This will also undermine their credibility, cause public backlash and cause further damage to the Kpop industry reputation.
Now, there is always the possibility that's the hill those groups and Hybe are willing to die on, everyone be dammed. If this dispute has shown anything, those agencies' don't know how to do damage control and will take everyone down with them. | 2024-12-13T16:03:43 | -42 | 0 | -42 | fe2o3x | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tq5wb | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | Oh well 🤷♀️🤷♀️ | 2024-12-13T16:04:07 | 3 | 0 | 3 | Evafrechette | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tq6pp | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tpgn8 | Yep, I mentioned the other companies mostly because a lot of fans were saying that many companies would jump at the chance to take in nj and mhj if they managed to leave hybe (this was a while back to be fair). Them co-signing this statement doesn't bode well for the scenario of them having a major backer or major industry contacts. | 2024-12-13T16:04:21 | 19 | 0 | 19 | SensitiveCranberry20 | baby shaman dancing barefoot on the blades called the beat | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tq8r6 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1ti7o9 | If the 4th point goes through, no one will touch them, globally. Literally radioactive to be near at that point. | 2024-12-13T16:04:56 | 30 | 0 | 30 | RuneofBeginning | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tqfct | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | [removed] | 2024-12-13T16:06:48 | 1 | 0 | 1 | [deleted] | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tqkub | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tobmw | Wonder what are they trying to do, selling copium? | 2024-12-13T16:08:20 | 8 | 0 | 10 | skya760 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tqmbh | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkf4u | I'm afraid but they're not misinformed they know exactly what it is and what's happening.
It's just that they're willingly supporting to hate on hybe and hybe groups
It's not surprising to me because stans have sided with the worst to hate on a certain group | 2024-12-13T16:08:44 | 18 | 0 | 18 | Cloudy_Epiphany | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1trjyt | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | If they’re resorting to blacklist, it means NJ have the potential to legally terminate their contract with HYBE.
About the blacklist.. I don’t think will have the same impact as it used to be 10 years ago (JYJ & Jessica SNSD)
Since then, the media & entertainment appears exponentially larger than what it used to be with the rise of digital media. Spotify, Netflix/Prime, TikTok, Insta. There’s so many channels for artist to monetize their contents.
This disruption of streaming, social media, and gaming changed the way people discover, engage, and monetize their intellectual properties. Now millennials, Z, and Alpha seek more recommendations from influencers and virality rather than traditional media like TV stations/Newspapers. HYBE has less control over the digital area because most of them are owned by foreign companies.
NJ as already have a strong fanbase in SK and advertise, they can carter SK fanbase with digital contents while focusing their live stage in Japan and SEA (and this place is easily reachable to SK fans)
**To do something that no one has ever done before, to not limit themselves with preconceived ideas and accepted conventions, is what brings forth innovation.**
A lack of knowledge in an uncharted territory can create more opening for NJ to break new ground. Something that a manufactured industry can’t do. | 2024-12-13T16:18:15 | -25 | 0 | -26 | strwbrryfldfrvr | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1trn4d | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | Not Hybe stans celebrating this when this just further proves that there is not a single organization in Korea which cares about the idols, they rather go all out and protect the poor multi million dollar companies lol | 2024-12-13T16:19:08 | -29 | 0 | -31 | Inside-Switch496 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1trq9e | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tlihp | Any other association which only care about the companies? | 2024-12-13T16:20:02 | -24 | 0 | -25 | Inside-Switch496 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tru7q | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkv13 | HYBE is a part of the organization but they can't control it. The music industry is much much bigger than HYBE. | 2024-12-13T16:21:09 | 16 | 0 | 16 | skya760 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1trw9g | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | hagmys in the comments acting like this means anything
https://preview.redd.it/37euivxshk6e1.jpeg?width=777&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ee9040fa691d52ab67b5d424c07ec35a5f13889 | 2024-12-13T16:21:44 | -21 | 0 | -21 | Yish_99 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1trzhi | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tq4iz | 👍 | 2024-12-13T16:22:39 | -9 | 0 | -11 | darkapao | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ts04c | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkf4u | They don’t care.
Same way there are people that support the former members from 50/50. These people don’t care about facts. They have their own narratives | 2024-12-13T16:22:50 | 16 | 0 | 17 | Moonlighteverafter | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ts3td | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkv13 | 👍 | 2024-12-13T16:23:54 | -4 | 0 | -5 | darkapao | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ts3x7 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tjev6 | They were always dead on arrival in Korea. They are called traitor idols.
Their agency even stated global promotions for them.
I think they know they have no future for a Korean career | 2024-12-13T16:23:55 | 11 | 0 | 11 | Moonlighteverafter | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tsikb | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg |  | 2024-12-13T16:28:13 | 8 | 0 | 8 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tsn75 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tl72y | They couldve apologized and blame it all on external forces (the givers) and nobody would be on their ass at all (except for settling penalties) but they continue to be associated with people givers hired for them in the past and never denounced ASI even after it came to light that he forged Keena's signature to cut her royalties from cupid. or if they distanced themselves from the viral marketing company the givers hired for them to badmouth Attrakt and Keena and that is STILL running to this day with the same accounts on their behalf. so they are being brought up as a poster child of audacity and hybe gonna keep using them losing in court to whitewash themselves. fafo | 2024-12-13T16:29:35 | 10 | 0 | 12 | Radiant-Ad-3250 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tss4g | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | Laughable. Promote healthy industry practices or you want permeate an illusion of healthy. | 2024-12-13T16:31:00 | -15 | 0 | -15 | Khairi001 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tsspf | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkicb | >we call on NewJeans to honor their exclusive contract and *engage in sincere discussions with their agency. If an agreement cannot be reached, they should humbly await the court’s judgment.*
They can't tell nwjns to not leave Hybe, but they can ask nwjns to discuss with the company or wait for the court. | 2024-12-13T16:31:11 | 3 | 0 | 5 | danieleen | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tszsg | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1trn4d | And the best they can do is downvote the comment that against their delulu mind. | 2024-12-13T16:33:17 | -21 | 0 | -21 | strwbrryfldfrvr | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tt72g | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1to90s | What do you mean they did not hurt anyone? I am pretty sure they hurt the man they lied on, and if we dont care about the man, there is also a girl they hurt which is Keena who had to change her governmental name cause of harassment, and 4 new girls who are now being called abuse apologists for joining the company that won in court 2 times and cleared its name. | 2024-12-13T16:35:24 | 10 | 0 | 11 | Radiant-Ad-3250 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ttau4 | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | Kpop reddit cheers for corporate profits again 🫠 | 2024-12-13T16:36:31 | -19 | 0 | -19 | motioncat | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ttcc4 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkxqc | Even if this rattles them, I really do not want them near the Hybe staff and groups anymore. Like, it would have traumatised me if someone was slandering me for nothing. | 2024-12-13T16:36:58 | 13 | 0 | 14 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ttf9e | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tszsg | Nothing new lol lets hope it affects one of their favs one day, lets see if they will still celebrate the company bootlicking then | 2024-12-13T16:37:50 | -11 | 0 | -12 | Inside-Switch496 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ttm4r | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tkf4u | The amount of: "they want to silence woman (nj) speaking about company abuse" i saw in the comments is huuuuge. What abuse? Not saying hello? Allegely hearing "ignore her"? Not being allowed working with the ceo who has evidences of white collar crimes? Not ending contracts, because they said so? | 2024-12-13T16:39:49 | 14 | 0 | 14 | nevermy | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ttr2n | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1trq9e | It's just that that's the thing. It's been said already multiple times that these companies will look to protect THEMSELVES because that's how a business works. Of course they care for their artists, since they're the ones bringing in the money, but if/when the artist goes off the rails and becomes a nuclear bomb and essentially ends up being a liability, these companies will want to protect what they can even if that puts the group in jeopardy, and more so if the group itself is the one at the core of the problem. | 2024-12-13T16:41:19 | 9 | 0 | 9 | blukwolf | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ttuz0 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1trn4d | You do realize if investors flee the industry because tampering is left unchecked, there will be no more idols for you to pretend to want to protect, right? This industry runs on investments. Y'all cannot be this dense. | 2024-12-13T16:42:29 | 16 | 0 | 17 | Ebony_Coco | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ttzgd | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tq4iz | Legally? Are you serious? And newspapers have been used as collaborative evidence if the particular paper is viewed as truthful.
And removing a group is from its chart is not tampering. Can we be serious for once. Jfc | 2024-12-13T16:43:47 | 15 | 0 | 16 | Mwikali85 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ttzmd | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1ttuz0 | Nooo the poor companies again? 😭 | 2024-12-13T16:43:50 | -17 | 0 | -18 | Inside-Switch496 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tu359 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tldiw | Vcha isn't part of this. | 2024-12-13T16:44:53 | 10 | 0 | 10 | Mwikali85 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tu5yu | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1ttzmd | I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Good luck with that. | 2024-12-13T16:45:43 | 18 | 0 | 18 | Ebony_Coco | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tu6u6 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tldiw | They have said if you want out wait for the courts ...which vcha's kg is doing... They are well within the legal grounds and no tampering... So need to mention them | 2024-12-13T16:45:58 | 4 | 0 | 4 | Frequent-Bag609 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tucvd | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tu5yu | Yours neither, because how does everyone ignore the critical part about my statement?
"There is no association which cares about the well-being of the artists"
And everyone knows thats a fact, KMCA is made out of all the top companies in Korea ofcourse they only care about their money LOL | 2024-12-13T16:47:47 | -10 | 0 | -11 | Inside-Switch496 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tuvqk | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | I've seen a LOT of local and international media had painted Hybe as the bad guys in this - which is fair enough. A good David vs Goliath story always sells.
But I wanna see how they backtrack from that stance because this is honestly something I don't think they can mediaplay anymore. 😂 | 2024-12-13T16:53:25 | 8 | 0 | 10 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tuw83 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tss4g | All of those associations are so loud on NewJeans case but went radio silence with Gaeun & KG’s cases.
I guess money is where their mouth is. | 2024-12-13T16:53:34 | 3 | 0 | 3 | strwbrryfldfrvr | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tuxde | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1ttcc4 | Yeah, I honestly don’t see how they could salvage the situation even if they wanted to. I’m also tired of Hybe groups being dragged through the mud again and again for *months* now over something that has nothing to do with them because of the proximity. | 2024-12-13T16:53:54 | 7 | 0 | 7 | Faron-Woods | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tuxua | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1trn4d | First, are you incapable of making a point without the urge to call people Hybe Stans?
This is about dealing with people who are engaged with tampering. How much it will affect kpop as a whole if it's allowed to happen. Making it an industry to risky for investers who won't like that someone they invest in can just screw them over and walk away.
Its not just about these big labels (as it's happening in smaller labels too) it also is about all the employees that work there and the buisnes a connections, brand deals, etc, that can get screwed over and left with nothing if idols can void their contracts just cause they want to. | 2024-12-13T16:54:03 | 14 | 0 | 15 | GrumpyKaeKae | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tvduy | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tj74i | This is an adult, rational, and professional response? LMAO
They are basically crying and semi-blackmailing NJ to not break the status quo, which is and always has been the agencies having the upper hand.
They HATE and want to stop NJ from setting a precedence of artists fighting back against agencies.
And realizing that they can't stop them, they are now basically blackmailing them to submission, which is pathetic and also expected from them.
And those that are applauding and surprised by their response clearly don't know Korea because this wasn't their first time blackmailing artists.
Nothing is going to happen, as you have to prove tampering first and good luck with that lmao | 2024-12-13T16:58:51 | -23 | 0 | -23 | StudentOfLife1992 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tveex | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tuw83 | Like if it were so healthy, there will not be a contract dispute or harassment case every year. The music industry isn’t healthy point blank. | 2024-12-13T16:59:01 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Khairi001 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tverv | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tuxua | Lets keep defending the ideas of an association which was against the protection of minors in the industry lets goooo | 2024-12-13T16:59:08 | -7 | 0 | -7 | Inside-Switch496 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tvh9y | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1toi4l | What they did wasn't negotiation. You negotiate THEN sign contracts. You don't sign then change the terms while the contract is still active (pending court judgement.) | 2024-12-13T16:59:53 | 12 | 0 | 13 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tvi2l | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tjogy | Y'all don't even want to hide your sexism anymoe | 2024-12-13T17:00:07 | -14 | 0 | -14 | Papayomato | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tvjmn | t3_1hd5bcg | t3_1hd5bcg | the fourth point looks like a very massive step and I know they're just "considering it" but wouldn't they have to have solid evidence that these artist's sales were tampered and not just “accusations”? because that is a big accusation and a big repercussion to that. which is only valid if it's 100% true with solid proof. like yes tampered sales shouldn't be considered for awards over real sales. i really don't know how this would pan out if they actually go through with it. and if an artist gets caught up in it, which mostly is the company's doing, their career takes the heat for what their company did. or am I getting this wrong? | 2024-12-13T17:00:35 | 1 | 0 | 1 | flyingfeather_ | jimin protector | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tvk1s | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tldiw | VCHA is a case for the US. Korea doesn't have jurisdiction, no? | 2024-12-13T17:00:43 | 5 | 0 | 7 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tvnd6 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tj5nq | Yea blame the artists that's trying to make the industry better for artists and not the corrupt association that's obviously pro-agency.
Nice logic. | 2024-12-13T17:01:42 | -13 | 0 | -13 | StudentOfLife1992 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tvnk4 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tucvd | [removed] | 2024-12-13T17:01:46 | 1 | 0 | 1 | [deleted] | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tw3oa | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tuxde | I am more concerned about the employees who are alone in this. Employee B who was harassed and isn't working there anymore. The Belift manager who is innocent (because no one could prove them guilty). The security guard that had to deal with Hanni and her parents. Even the New Jeans manager who was "trying to help", even if it is questionable.
This is just not an environment that would benefit the emplpyees if they stay. | 2024-12-13T17:06:42 | 6 | 0 | 6 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1twbub | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tvduy | Fighting back? All the have done is take the easy way out which was lie about a LOT of things.
If they really wanna fight back, take it to court. If they really have a case, prove it. They slandered people without proof. MHJ was coaching a sexual harasser and was threatening to punish whistleblowers. | 2024-12-13T17:09:13 | 16 | 0 | 16 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1twfg1 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tvduy | Why of course it's you. 😬 | 2024-12-13T17:10:19 | 13 | 0 | 13 | rjcooper14 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1twj07 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tw3oa | I agree, the whole thing feels like it would create a tense and uncertain work environment for anyone caught up in it and I don’t envy that at all. | 2024-12-13T17:11:26 | 6 | 0 | 6 | Faron-Woods | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1twrak | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1ttau4 | I love how this has always been about business vs business but y'all will paint it as Hybe vs NJ. It was always about MHJ's money vs Hybe's money. NJ just decided to support their mother Gothel. But this is still about HER MONEY. | 2024-12-13T17:14:02 | 11 | 0 | 14 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1twurd | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tucvd | This also impacts artists smarty-pants. If there are no investors, then there is no money. If there is no money, then who is going to pay for the training, food, housing, music, etc. of said artists?
Also, this tampering issue will likely directly impact future contracts for artists. Cracking down on it and showing no mercy towards those who do this could potentially help act as an argument not to go too wild with making future contracts as restrictive as they used to be if this can prove to be a good deterrent.
Obviously, money is the biggest issue to these companies/this organization. The Kpop industry is a business.
Also, it's not like most artists aren't also in the industry with the hope of potentially being successful and making money; and even the small few who are just in it to perform, they don't want the bags to dry up either, because again, how can they perform with no one providing money?
Nothing was ignored. The "critical part" of your statement was already answered, hence my remarks on your reading comprehension. | 2024-12-13T17:15:04 | 10 | 0 | 10 | Ebony_Coco | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tx2yx | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tvjmn | >and if an artist gets caught up in it, which mostly is the company's doing
But the artists usually involved with tampering. The other party wouldn't try get them out of contract in tampering action without the artists agreeing/knowing about it. | 2024-12-13T17:17:37 | 1 | 0 | 1 | danieleen | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tx3b2 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1twrak | Whomst is yall and what are you getting from my comment? This is a governing body in the industry stepping in to back the side of the companies in enforcing contracts, purely in the interest of orderly business and continued profits, and I'm saying it's pretty weird for people to be acting like this is something to celebrate. | 2024-12-13T17:17:43 | -4 | 0 | -5 | motioncat | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tx71l | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tvjmn | They're not talking about sales being tampered with, they're talking about artists involved in acts of tampering. Artists that leave their company without a legitimate reason to go to another company. Hence the mention of the Fifty Fifty situation as well as what is currently going on with NewJeans | 2024-12-13T17:18:54 | 6 | 0 | 7 | fenryonze | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ty930 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tvnd6 | “trying to make the industry better” while making life for their juniors a living hell. don’t make me laugh | 2024-12-13T17:30:51 | 9 | 0 | 9 | pinkzomb1e | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tyauv | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tjev6 | > Is their new group going to be dead on arrival and banned from shows and awards or what?
they were always kinda screwed, they've signed with a new company but they still have multiple lawsuits going on. | 2024-12-13T17:31:24 | 2 | 0 | 2 | MisterScalawag | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1tzq6k | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tverv | Nice try. Come up with better bait next time. | 2024-12-13T17:47:26 | 4 | 0 | 5 | GrumpyKaeKae | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1u4rf9 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tx3b2 | This was a business vs business and the "celebration" is so that the circus MHJ is trying to conduct may end. If you haven't noticed, it has been ruining careers and workplaces for the normal employees.
Someone was sexually harassed and her CEO was coaching her harasser.
A manager was accussed of making a "harassing" comment but the one accusing has changed her story multiple times with her "facts" always changing.
Another manager has now violated their own contract while allegedly trying to assist their ward.
A rookie group is being harassed by relentless fans because of a CEO who kept trying to find something to victimise "*her* artists".
And a country's resource is being used to further a selfish personal agenda that won't even really help the Kpop industry.
So yeah, KMCA drawing the line is something to "celebrate". | 2024-12-13T18:46:00 | 3 | 0 | 6 | Sugawahsugawah | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1u59o7 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tx71l | alright that makes it more clear because the wording did get me confused. | 2024-12-13T18:51:45 | 1 | 0 | 1 | flyingfeather_ | jimin protector | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1u5fz2 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tx2yx | another user cleared it wasnt about music sales tampering (which I confused it for due to the wording) so my comment in itself is invalid. | 2024-12-13T18:53:47 | 1 | 0 | 1 | flyingfeather_ | jimin protector | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1u6ity | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tjev6 | They will find it very difficult to work and promote in Korea. They are currently in America, which will probably be their best shot at success
The KMCA already spoke against 3J a year ago when they decided they would suspend all copyright fees and revenue for Cupid and the KMF/KMA and KPA have made separate statements as well. I would stop short of saying they're banned but it probably doesn't help them that all these organizations representing the entirety of the kpop industry (their new company is a member of these orgs BTW) have released statements denouncing their actions | 2024-12-13T19:06:05 | 1 | 0 | 1 | JauntyGiraffe | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1u6xu1 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1to90s | depends on how you look at it. their company went dormant for more than a year between Barbie promo cancelations and the new lineup debut
So besides all the idols and CEOs wars, there's a good chance that a lot of regular people working regular jobs supporting the group lost their jobs | 2024-12-13T19:10:49 | 1 | 0 | 1 | JauntyGiraffe | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ue0xg | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tvi2l | Cry me a river 😢 | 2024-12-13T20:27:00 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Away_Limit_6275 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1uenqu | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1ue0xg | You people are morally so degraded and probably just blinded BTS stans, who can't accept that their capitalist enterprise is just as corrupt as all the others.
Y'all should never be allowed to talk about any serious issue again if you call somebody a witch (incredibly offensive and sexist historical term for women) just for disagreeing with them. The fact that you are either a woman yourself or part of the LGBT community makes it just so much worse. | 2024-12-13T20:33:19 | -3 | 0 | -5 | Papayomato | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ufa94 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1uenqu | [removed] | 2024-12-13T20:39:16 | 1 | 0 | 1 | [deleted] | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1ugesk | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tzq6k | No bait its a fact you can look it up lmao | 2024-12-13T20:49:54 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Inside-Switch496 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1vbnrb | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1ugesk | So your answer to that is to support a pedophile ex CEO? | 2024-12-14T00:22:28 | 1 | 0 | 1 | GrumpyKaeKae | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1w8oc8 | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1tt72g | Say what you want, they still got mistreated. Like actual mistreatment.
Also when you have voices that good, I'm never going to side with a company over you. Like if BTS did hybe DIRTY I'd stand by them idc. | 2024-12-14T03:18:16 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Desperate_Exam3898 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1wdzgn | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1w8oc8 | They did not get mistreated, "like actual mistreatment" never happened. All the issues they had were not related to their work and they were provided appropriate care and treatment when they needed it according to courts statement. They only brought it up half cooked info after they were caught and considently how funny is that Keena never had any issues except that ASI lied to Keena that she will not be getting paid by Attrakt while he was the one who forged Keena's signature and took from her royalties.
That's so funny actually, the simp culture is so unserious. They sing well lmao so what. Can they can lie about abuse? Can they target innocent people? Can they worsen the position of idols who are actually abused and not just crying wolf? Well okay but then dont cry when you get consequences.
And if they didnt sing well but "like actual abuse' happened, then what? Youd paid it dust? | 2024-12-14T03:46:22 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Radiant-Ad-3250 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m1wkjzw | t3_1hd5bcg | t1_m1wdzgn | They starved those poor girls.
Their singing is enough for me to forgive them being mislead by the givers.
If they didn't sing well, I would just say they got mistreated and not stan.
They can hurt their companies all they want. | 2024-12-14T04:20:57 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Desperate_Exam3898 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
kpop_uncensored | t5_95i5nk | m38im4n | t3_1bz4o2s | t3_1bz4o2s | This i want to stan baemon but yo their mv songs so horrible this year 😭 sm way better | 2024-12-22T12:40:26 | -1 | 0 | 1 | Snoo-6011 | null | null | en | 0 | false |
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