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ููู ูุนู
ูุ | how does it work? |
ููู
ู
ู ุฐูู ุงูุฅูุฑุงุฏ ูุณูู
ูู ุชูุงููู ุงูุชุดุบูู ุชููุ | and how much of that revenue contributes to that operating costs? |
ุญุณููุง ูุฅู ุฃูุดุทุฉ ุฅุฏุฑุงุฑ ุงูุฏุฎู ูู ุงูุฃุนู
ุงู ุงูุฒุฑุงุนูุฉ. | so the income generating activities in the agribusiness. |
ุชููู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ูุนูููุง ู
ุณุชุฏุงู
ุฉ ุชู
ุงู
ูุง ุฏูููุง. | actually the schools are entirely sustainable without them. |
ูุฐูู ูุฅููุง ุชุชุนูู ุจุฒูุงุฏุฉ ุงูู
ุจูุบ ุงูุฅุฌู
ุงูู ูุฏู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุชุฏุฑูุฌููุง. | so they are about incrementally increasing the total amount that the school has. |
ูุฐูู ูู
ูููุง ุชุญุณูู ุงููุตูู ูุงูุฌูุฏุฉ ูู ุงูููุช ููุณู. | so we can improve access and quality at the same time. |
ููู ูุชู
ุชุดุบูู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุจุงุณุชุฏุงู
ุฉ ุฏูููุง. | but the school is run sustainably without them. |
ูู ูุฐู ุงูุขููุฉุ ุณุฃูุฐุจ ุฅู ููุช ุฅู ุชูู ูุงูุช ุฌุฒุกูุง ูุจูุฑูุง ู
ู ุฏุฎู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ. | at the moment, I will be lying to say that those were a large part of the income to the school. |
ููุฏ ุงุณุชุซู
ุฑูุง ููุท ูู ููุน ู
ุนูู ู
ู ุงููุฑูู. | we have just invested in a specific kind of team. |
ููุนู
ู ูุชุทููุฑ ุชูู ุงูุฃุนู
ุงู ุนูู ุญุฏ ุณูุงุก ู
ุน ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ูุจุนุถูุง ุจุนูุฏูุง ุนู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ูุนูููุง. | to work to develop those businesses both with schools and actually some away from schools. |
ูุฐูู ูุฅูู ูู
ูู ุฃู ูููู ูุฏููุง ุชูุงุฑ ุงูุฅูุฑุงุฏ ุงูุซุงูู ูุฐุง ุงูุฐู ูุฏุนู
ููุงู ู
ู ุงููุฑูู ูู ุชุนุฒูุฒ ุงูู
ุณุงูุงุฉ ูู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ุงูุฅูุฑูููุฉ ุฃูุบูุฏุง | so we can have this second-revenue stream supporting both the team in PEAS Uganda |
ููู ูู ู
ู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ . | and in each of the inivudal schools. |
ุงูุฃู
ุซูุฉ ูู ุงููุซูุฑ ู
ู ุญููู ุฒุฑุงุนุชูุง ุจุงูุฐุฑุฉ ูุงููุงุตูููุง. | the examples are a lot of its planting fields with maize and beans. |
ุจุญูุซ ูู
ูููุง ุฎูุถ ุชูููุฉ ุงูุบุฏุงุก. | so that we can lower the cost of lunch. |
ููุฏููุง ุฃูุถูุง ุจุนุถ ูุญุฏุงุช ุงูุฏูุงุฌู ูุฐูู ูุถูุช ุฃููุงุชูุง ูุซูุฑุฉ ุฌุฏูุง ูู ุนุฏ ุงูุจูุถ ูุงูุฃุดูุงุก. | and we have also got some poultry units so I spent so many times counting eggs and things. |
ูุฃูุง ุฃุชุทูุน ุฅูู ุฃุดูุงุก ู
ุซู ุชุฑุจูุฉ ุงูุฃุณู
ุงู ูุจุนุฏ ุฐูู ุงููุถุน ูู ุงูุตูุจุงุช ุงูุฒุฑุงุนูุฉ. | and I am looking at things like fish farming and then putting in greenhouses. |
ุจุญูุซ ูู
ูููุง ุฅูุชุงุฌ ุฎุถุฑูุงุช ุนุงููุฉ ุงูุฌูุฏุฉ ูู
ูู ุจูุนูุง ูู ูู
ุจุงูุง. | so that we can produce high-quality vegetables that can be sold in Kampala. |
ุฅูู ุงูุทุจูุฉ ุงููุณุทู ุงูู
ุชูุงู
ูุฉ ููุงูุ ูุฐูู ููุงู ู
ุฌู
ูุนุฉ ู
ู ุงูุฃุดูุงุก ุงูู
ุฎุชููุฉ. | to the growing middle class there, so there is a range of different things. |
ุงูุณุคุงู ุงูุฃุฎูุฑุ ูุนู
| last question, yeah |
ููู ููุนู ุงููุชู ุงูุตุบูุฑ | how the little boy is doing |
ุฅูู ูุตู ูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุซุงูููุฉ ูุญุตู ุนูู ูุธููุฉ ูู ุณูุจุฑ ู
ุงุฑูุช. | he got for a secondary school and he got a job in a supermarket. |
ูุฅุฐุง ููุช ุฃู
ูููุง ุชู
ุงู
ูุงุ ููููู ุณูุฆูุง ุฌุฏูุง ู
ูู. | and if I am completely honest, it is very naughty of me. |
ููู ุชูู ุงูุตูุฑุฉ ููุณุช ูุนูููุง ุงูุตุจู ุงูุฐู ุงูุชููุชู. | but that photo is not actually the boy that I met. |
ูุงูุณุจุจ ูู ูุฃูู ูุฃุณุจุงุจ ุญู
ุงูุฉ ุงูุทูู. | and the reason is because for child protection reasons. |
ูุญู ูุชุฌูุจ ุญููุง ููุท ูุถุน ุงูู
ุซู ููุนูุง ู
ุง ุนูู ุทูู. | we just really avoid sort of putting the same on on a child. |
ููู ูุนู
ุฅูู ุชูุงุตู ู
ุนู ุนุจุฑ ุงูููุณ ุจูู ู
ูุฐ ุซูุงุซุฉ ุฃุณุงุจูุน. | but yes he got in touch with me via Facebook three weeks ago. |
ููุงู ุฃูุช ุงูุชุงูู ูู ูู
ุจุงูุงุ ุณูููู ุงูููุงุก ุฑุงุฆุนูุง. | and said you are next in Kampla, it will be great to meet. |
ููู
ุฃุฑู ุฎูุงู ุจุถุน ุณููุงุช ูุนูููุง. | and I have not seen him in a couple of years actually. |
ููููู ุณุฃูุญู ุจู ูุฃุฑู ููู ุญุงูู. | but I will catch up with him and see how he is doing. |
ูููู ููุณ ู
ุญุงู
ููุง. | but he is not a lawyer. |
ุฅูู ูุง ูุฏูุน ู
ูุงุจู ุฃุฎุทุงุก ูุจูุฑุฉ. | he is not being paid big bugs. |
ูููู ุจุงูุชุฃููุฏ ูู ูุถุน ู
ุง ูุงู ูุฃู ูููู ุฎูุงูู. | but he is certainly in a position that he would not have otherwise been. |
ูุจุงูู
ุนูู ุงูุงูุชุตุงุฏู ููุทุ ุงูู
ุนุฏู ุงูุฎุงุต ูุนุงุฆุฏ ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงูุซุงูููุฉ. | and just in economic sense, the private rate of return to secondary school. |
ูู ุนุงู
ูุชุงุฉ ูู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงูุซุงูููุฉุ ุฅููุง ุชุฌูู 20ูช ุฅุถุงููุฉ ูู ุฃูุบูุฏุง. | each year a girl is in secondary school, she earns an extra 20% in Uganda. |
ูุจููุฉ ุงูุญูุงุฉ ูุฐูู ู
ุถุงุนูุฉ ุฏุฎูู ููุนูุง ู
ุง ูู ุฏูุฑุฉ ุชุนููู
ู
ู ุฃุฑุจุน ุณููุงุช. | for the rest of life so kind of doubling your income every four year education cycle. |
ุงูุฐู ูููู ุญููุง ูุนุจุฉ ุชุชุบูุฑ ูุดุฎุต ู
ุง. | which is really game changing for someone. |
ุนูุฏู
ุง ูุฃุฎุฐูู
ูู
ุง ุชุนูู
ูู ููู ุฎุท ุงูููุฑุ ูููู ูุฑููุง ูุจูุฑูุง. | when you know it takes you above the poverty line, it is a big difference. |
ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃููู ุฃุฎุดู ุฃู ุฐูู ูู ุงูุณุคุงู ุงูุฃุฎูุฑุ ูุนู
. | I think I am afraid that is the last question, yeah. |
ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ููู
. | thank you very much. |
ุญุณููุง ูุณุฑูู ุชููู ุงูุฃุณุฆูุฉ. ูุนู
ุ | so I am happy to take questions. yes? |
ู
ุณุงุก ุงูุฎูุฑ. ุงุณู
ู ู
ุงููุง ุฌูุจุณูู. ุฃูุง ู
ู ุงูุจุงูุงู
ุง. | good afternoon. my name is Makeya Gibson. I am from the Bahamas. |
ุชููุงููู. | tenakewi. |
ุฃูุง ู
ูุชู
ุญููุง ูู
ุนุฑูุฉ ุฃุนูู. | I am really interested to know I mean . |
ุงูุฃููุงุฑ ุงูุชู ุชุชุจููููุง ูุงูุงุณุชุฑุงุชูุฌูุงุช ูู ุงูุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ูุงูุชู ุทูุฑุญุช. | the ideas that you espouse and the strategies at the program and put forward. |
ุฅููุง ุจุฏุช ุงุณุชุฑุงุชูุฌูุงุช ู
ุชู
ูุฒุฉ ุญููุง ููุชุนููู
ุนู
ูู
ูุง. | it seemed to be really outstanding strategies for education generally. |
ูุฐูู ูุฅูู ุฃุชุณุงุกู ุฅูู ุฃู ู
ุฏู ูุชู
ุชุจูููุง. | so I am wondering to what extent it is being adopted. |
ู
ู ููุจู ูุฒุงุฑุฉ ุงูุชุนููู
ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง ููู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ. | by the ministry of education in New Zealand for all schools. |
ููู ูููู ููู
ุชุฃุซูุฑ ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุงูุฏูู
ูุบุฑุงููุฉ ุงูู
ุงูุฑูุฉ ูุฐููุ | and are you having an impact outside of the maori demographic as well? |
ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ูู. ูุฐุง ุณุคุงู ุจู
ูููู ุฏููุงุฑ ุญููุง. | thank you very much. that is a million-dollar question really. |
ูุง ุฃุนุฑู ูุณููุฉ ููุจุฏุก ูู ูุฐุง ุงูุณุคุงู. | I do not know a way to start on that question. |
ุณุฃุจุฏุฃ ุจุญูููุฉ ุฃูู ูุนู
ูุฒุงุฑุฉ ุงูุชุนููู
ุชู
ุถู ูุฏู
ูุง ูู ุฐูู. | I will start with the fact that yes the ministry of education are taking it further. |
ุฅููุง ุชุชุฎุฐ ููุฌูุง ุฃูุซุฑ ุชู
ุงุณููุง. | they are taking a more cohesive approach. |
ูุฏููุง ุญูุงูู 250 ู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุซุงูููุฉ ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง | we have about 250 secondary schools in New Zealand |
ููุญู ูุนู
ู ุญุงูููุง ูู ุญูุงูู 49 ู
ู ุชูู. | and currently we are working in about 49 of those. |
ุงูุนุงู
ุงูู
ูุจูุ ูุฏู ุงููุฒุงุฑุฉ ุฎุทุฉ ูุฃุฎุฐูุง ุฅูู 100 ู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู. | next year, the ministry has a plan to take it into another 100 schools. |
ุณูููู ููุฌูุง ู
ูุณููุง ู
ุน ุจุนุถ ุงูุจุฑุงู
ุฌ ุงูุฃุฎุฑู ุฅูู ุฌุงูุจ . | it will be a coordinated approach with some other programs alongside . |
ููู
ุง ูุฎุต ุงูุณุคุงู ูู
ุง ุชุนูู
ูู ูู ูู
ุณ ุงูู
ุฌู
ูุนุฉ ุงูุณูุงููุฉ ุงูุฃุฎุฑู. | in term of the question you know is it touching the other demographic group. |
ูุฏููุง ุงููุซูุฑ ู
ู ุทูุงุจ ุฌุฒุฑ ุงูู
ุญูุท ุงููุงุฏุฆ ูู ู
ุฏุงุฑุณูุง. | we have a lot of pacific island students in our schools. |
ูููุฏ ูุงุญุธูุง ุงูุงุฑุชูุงุน ููุณู ูู ุงูุฅูุฌุงุฒ. | and we have noticed the same lift in the achievement. |
ููู ุงูุดูุก ุงูุขุฎุฑ ุงูู
ูู
ุญููุง ูุงู ุฃู. | but the other thing that it is really important has been that. |
ุงูุฌู
ูุน ูุฌุญูุง ู
ุน ูุฐุง ุงูุจุฑูุงู
ุฌุ ู
ุน ูุฐู ุงูุงุณุชุฑุงุชูุฌูุงุช. | everybody has succeeded with this program, with these strategies. |
ุจููู
ุง ูุจู ุฐูู ูุงูุช ูููุฒูููุฏุง ู
ูุตูุฉ ุฌุฏูุง. | whereas before New Zealand was very much an egalitarian. |
ูุฐุง ู
ุง ุชุจูููุงู. ุชุจูููุง ูุธุงู
ุชุนููู
ู
ูุตููุง. | that is what we espoused. we espoused in egalitarian education system. |
ููุณุชู
ุฑ ุทูุงุจ ุงูู
ุงูุฑู ูู ุงูุณููุท ุจุงูุฎูู ุจุดูู ู
ุชูุงุณุจ. | and maori students continue to just proportionately fall behind. |
ูู
ุง ูุนู ุจุงุณููููุง ูู
ุง ูุนู ุงูุทูุงุจ ุงูู
ูุงุฌุฑูู ู
ุคุฎุฑูุง. | as did the Pasifika as did recent immigrant students. |
ูุฐูู ุงูุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุนูู ุณุคุงูููู
ุง ูู ูุนู
ููุนู
. ุดูุฑูุง ููู
. | so the answer to your questions is yes and yes. thank you. |
ูุนู
ู
ู ูุถูู. | yes please. |
ุฃูุง ู
ู ุจูุฑู ูุฃุดุงุฑู ุงูู
ุดููุฉ. | I come from Peru and I share the problem. |
ุฏุนุง ุทุจูุจ ููุณู ุงุจูุชู. | my daughter was called by a psychologist. |
ูุฃูู ูุงู ูุฌุจ ุนูุงุฌ ุญููุฏุชู. | because my granddaughter has to be treated. |
ูุฃููู
ูู
ูููู
ูุง ูู
ุงุฐุง ูุงูุช ุงูุฃุณุฑุฉ ูุจูุฑุฉ ุฌุฏูุง. | because they did not understand why the family was so large. |
ูุฃู ููุงู ุฃุฌุฏุงุฏูุง ูุฎุงูุงุช ุขุจุงุก ุฃู ุฃู
ูุงุช ูุขุจุงุก ุฃุฌุฏุงุฏ. | because there are grandparents, grandaunts, great grandparents. |
ูุฌุฏุงุช ุฌุฏุงุช. | and great great grandmothers. |
ููู ุชุนุฑู ุงูุฌู
ูุน ูุนู
ุฑูุง ุฎู
ุณ. | and she knows everybody and she is five. |
ุจุชุนุฑูู ุงูุฃุณุฑุฉุ ููู ูุตูุน ุฐููุ | by the definition of family, how makes that? |
ูุฃููุณ ุฐูู ู
ู ุฌุงูุจ ุงูู
ุนูู
ููุ | and it not that a on the part of teachers? |
ูุงูุฐู ูุฏุฑุจ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู. | and who trains the teachers. |
ููู ุชุฎุทุทูู ูุชุบููุฑ ุฐููุ | how do you plan to change that? |
ูุญู . | we are the . |
ูุฐูู ุจุฏุก ุงูุนู
ู ู
ุน ู
ุคุณุณุชู ุชุฏุฑูุจ ู
ุนูู
ูู ุขุฎุฑุชูู ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง. | so beginning to work with two other teacher training institutions in New Zealand. |
ูุจุงูุชุฃููุฏ ุฏูุฑู ูู ู
ุญุงููุฉ ุฏู
ุฌ ูุฐู ุงูุชูุงูู
ุงุช. | and certainly my role is to try and integrate these understandings. |
ุถู
ู ุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ุชุฏุฑูุจ ุงูู
ูุงุญุธูู. | within the perceivers training program. |
ููู ูุชุนูู ุนููู ุฃู ุฃููู ุฃูุถูุง ุฅู ู
ุนุธู
ู
ุนูู
ููุง ูููููู ูู ู
ุฏุงุฑุณูุง. | but I have to say also that most of our teachers are in our schools. |
ูููุฐุง ุงูุณุจุจ ุจุฏุฃูุง ููุงู. | and so that is why we started there. |
ูุฃุธู ุงูุขู ุฃู ูุฏููุง ุจุนุถ ุงูุฅุฌุงุจุงุช ุงูุชู ุชุนู
ู. | and I guess now that we have got some answers that work. |
ูุญู ูุณุชุนุฏ ุงูุขู ูุฃุฎุฐู ุฅูู ุชุฏุฑูุจ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ุงูู
ูุงุญุธูู. | we now prepare to take it into the perceiver teacher training. |
ูุฐูู ููุทุฉ ู
ูู
ุฉ ุญููุง. | so a really important point. |
ููุทุฉ ุชุชูุงู
ู ุชู
ุงู
ูุง ุนุจุฑ ูู ุงูุฃู
ูุฑ. | a point that absolutely integrated across all of the things. |
ุฃุนุชูุฏ ูู ุงูู
ุงุถู ู
ุง ูุนููุงู ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง ุนูู ุฃู ุญุงู. | I think in the past what we have done in New Zealand anyway. |
ูู ุบุงูุจูุง ูุญู ููุฑุฉ ุฌูุฏุฉ ูุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃููู
ุณุชุนุฑููู ุนูููุฉ ุฃููุง ูุณุชููู ุงูู
ุชุทูุจุงุช. | is often we a good idea and think that will you know we-tick-the-box mentality. |
ููุฐู ููุณุช ุนูููุฉ ุงุณุชููุงุก ู
ุชุทูุจุงุช. | and this is not a tick-the-box mentality. |
ูุนู
. ุดูุฑูุง ูู. | yes. thank you. |
ู
ุณุงุก ุงูุฎูุฑ ุฏ. ุจูุฑูู
ุงู. | good afternoon Dr. Berryman. |
ูุฏ ุฃููู ูุถููููุง ูู
ุนุฑูุฉ ุจูุงูุงุชูู
ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชุชูููู ุงูุฑุฏูุฏ ู
ู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู. | I would be curious to know in your data when you are getting responses from teachers. |
ูู ูุงูุช ูุฏููู
ุฃู ุจูุงูุงุช ุจุดุฃู ุงูุฑุฏูุฏ ู
ู ุฌุฒูุฑุฉ ุงูู
ุงูุฑู ุจุงูู
ุญูุท ุงููุงุฏุฆ ู
ุซูุงู. | did you have any data on responses from like Maori pacific island. |
ุฃู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ูู ุงูุจุงูููุง ุฃู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ุบูุฑ ุงูู
ุงูุฑููู. | or teachers in Pakeha or non-maori teachers. |
ูู
ุชุงุจุนุฉ ูู ุจุฑุงู
ุฌ ุงูุชุฏุฑูุจ ู
ุน ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู. | and a followup in the training programs with the teachers. |
ูู ูุงุญุธุชู
ุงูููุงุญุงุช ุงูู
ุฎุชููุฉ ุงูุชู ูุงูุช ููู
ุนูู
ูู ุงูู
ุฎุชูููู ุฅุฒุงุก ุงูุชุฏุฑูุจ. | did you notice different struggles that different teachers had to the training. |
ูุงูุชููู ู
ุน ุงูุชุฏุฑูุจ. | and adapting to the training. |
ุตุญูุญุ ุดูุฑูุง ูู. ูุนู
ุฅููุง ุชุญุฏุซูุง ู
ุน ู
ุฌู
ูุนุฉ ูุงุณุนุฉ ู
ู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู. | right, thank you. Yes we did speak to a wide range of teachers. |