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single emotion that remains
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zen
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my goal is to get to be fluent between layer two or location two
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tilted considerably
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youre in location three i mean like you know is it bad to be more generous in a therapeutic environment you know with yourself or you know with your caring or whatever else no its not so thats fine you have one of those professions where you can be anywhere
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depression participants reported that even
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choose to live in a community of individuals from only one location on the continuum youd most likely want it to be people in location 3
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bliss
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location 4
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location three wouldnt have had any personal emotion
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environment
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there is thought but no awareness
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life is just unfolding
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modulation of joy
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perception and the resulting change in sense of
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very persistent stubborn sense
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thinking of a memory or the person in your environment
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emotion
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no selfreferential thoughts
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location four is not as intense
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that sounds great okay so based on what i am hearing i would say that you absolutely have an experience of location two layer three cool im trying or not that also now whether or not you are and you know that already all right otherwise you would have had to skip this interview to be digging a trench somewhere to run some water lines you know because or youll never be running water lines without paying a few thousand dollars to get the thing fixed and then it breaks down two minutes later and costs you another couple thousand dollars or whatever right right um and so theres a but that doesnt preclude the possibility that some that you have fluidity over to location three layer three
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nondual way
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yes so it not lasting long that isnt necessarily an indication of it not being location four because you could have just had a temporary experience of location four
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lets start by seeing if its location one
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okay so lets lets just assume for purposes of this test that you are actually in location to
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all of my thoughts went away my mind is so still whatever else compared to the buzzing noise that was before and your normal egoic narrative sense of self
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showing up or constriction in the body
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spacious
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right so should also be trying to pull myself out of like nonduality or like like get more into being a looker or something or is that more like location one then
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in location three
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maybe a sense of freedom that simple phrase but kind of has a certain allure to it
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location four
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nondual perception
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ability of the thoughts that did remain to draw
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yeah thats where the fear comes up if i can get over to location two layer two
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i was on the cusp of getting into an accident and i had to i had to i had to concentrate my my energy really quickly and this happens when im when the body is is moving through space often when im driving or when im walking um or when im floating in water the dimensionality just well there are different experiences sometimes it stretches sometimes it just goes flat and i cant figure out where i am i cant triangulate a physical location and when that happens when im driving its really unnerving it happened it happened this weekend i went to visit my daughter at her boarding school and she was in the vehicle with me along with two of her friends and that flattening stretching distending started and so you know i remember i remember focusing all of my energy on
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sinking in to the qualities of your current experience that are in the best direction for in this case location three
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because of this single multifaceted emotion it feels amazing to live at location 3
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if theres one thing that like virtually every location for a person is going to mention experiencing its its that frustration thing which you know confuses them a little trips them up a little bit or whatever else
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i would say i am still in location one because it can be press down and can read there are times that i need to kind of call it forward to kind of regain my equilibrium
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theres more silence in my system in location two
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no thought feels true or important
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his certainty was so strong that he actually entered into the jhana he was referring to so he could be interviewed in that state for comparisonnot long afterwards this teacher learned that one of his former students also a participant in the research had shifted into location 4
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if you if you really are if you say to someone who experienced that hey can you still you know find that in this composite flat experience you know its not that they cant necessarily find it its just its no longer something thats dominant in your the foreground of your perception that youre noticing like you would be you know at an earlier location that deep into that layer when that layer is more in the foreground and all of that
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usually but not totally
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been an issue around human relationships is that i dont have enough of a personal kind of love to satisfy the people in my life who would like it to be more personal
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it doesnt preclude you from that necessarily and you have to keep in mind most people want location three
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i can play such a good game of a location two layer three but it doesnt it doesnt necessarily feel like its authentic i can model it i can get people there i can like give them their little charmed life and like
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the sense of safety so um theres just a sense like something is going to go wrong at any minute or is going wrong
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merging with the divine
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sunbeam shining
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but didnt really have too much time to dig into that whole agency thing you might already be getting glimpses or have had glimpses of location four my guess is youll get temporary experiences of it doing this you know it wont just like be some jump over in you know tomorrow morning and some locking into location four so you can probably you know get some temporary experiences of it get some more experiences of it and start to get a feel for it and at least its more shallow form before it really sort of deepens and locks in
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without that sense of you know a looker and all of that its and self behind the eyes and all of that its you know its going to be location too so we know were in location two which is what i would expect
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when youre even when youre just using like if youre using for instance theres a method where like somebody just comes and holds you in a very loving way and eventually you find yourself sobbing in their arms you have no idea why youre sobbing and you know whatever else and its its just sort of this preverbal thing and theres really not that many people in the world that can even get somebody to you know have that experience
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ive never thought of it as absent agency but ive felt it as weak agency as in like severe procrastination there are things that i need to do and i just dont want to or hours pass and i kind of snap out of it and say oh wow you know those hours passed and i had things to do and i didnt do them and then ill kind of check internally my sense of okay how many days or weeks till the deadline can was it okay that i got away can i get away with having wasted the last two hours and if the answer is yes then im vulnerable to another couple of hours of just kind of drifting
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i was bouncing back from location four i feel peaceful
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location three can in terms of normally its just managing finances and that type of thing that we caution people around because they can be just excessive you know generosity
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location four feels like humanitys just been turned off right
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panpsychist
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fullness
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i guess i used to have more of that experience that i am this this whole thing and also a strong sense that i remember when i transitioned a strong sense that like there was space between my thoughts and i had that a lot in the beginning
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its kind of an evolved feeling you know kind of like location threes feeling of the joy but initially it was nothing it didnt feel anything it just totally perplexing whats going on
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they feel value laden and quite arbitrary distinctions um mm theres just a sensation that well i know that this this body can die right i know that awful things can happen to people that are in my circle so havent lost that perspective but at a at a really eternal indestructible level i dont think any of those words actually matter theyre theyre not dont have a a frame of reference for them
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it feels just kind of like it is what it is
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so so youve got the that positive meta emotion love joy compassion
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richness thats missing
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it can sort of lock you more into a nondual type of layer threeish experience and even more strongly and move you more in the direction of layer four which is not really per se in the direction of location three
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location three thats the type of experience you might be having the mist you know and that that field may change in quality as weve described like it may feel more divine or it might feel like its more sort of conscious or aware
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location two also combination one
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non dual
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its just all one big going on and its not happening to me its all just happening and its sort of like you know sensation inside the body is all part of the that thats going on
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you know you never quite know how these things are going to play out when the jumps occur for the first you know times um but yeah theres theres heading in the direction of layer four and through it to location four
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which pulls you all the way back to layer one and location one basically as those as those experiences fade
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so i have so so my experience of the world and internally is that i dont have that many emotions per se i have feelings and that kind of thing but usually i dont have any negative emotions that last longer than maybe a minute or two and if that happens its usually related to some deep kind of topic or trauma and i have an underlying sense of just feeling good all the time pretty much just a feeling of peace or that everything will be okay and of just appreciation and a sense of life and being alive and of myself um if you could say that the situation im in yet i also do have a lot of thought activity so um and that you know that that depends on on the period of time you know for example a year ago i wasnt working i was just traveling and you know things were kind of different internally now i have a job where im working 60 60 hour weeks managing operations for a whole country for a crypto exchange and im working on several screens and computers and a lot of processes and so that triggers a lot of a lot of thought activity and a lot of analysis and that kind of thing
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my guess is that youre more rooted in location two than you think
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their sect
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sense of like holiness
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you dont really have a sense of a look or a location three
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and then the karmic stuff i was really committed until finally i moved on to nonduality and then i became equally committed but didnt have the experience
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to location 4 finders the words that come out of their mouth and the words that come from the person they are speaking with all seem to originate from the same source
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location three layer one
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from there they can let the whole process go before anything further arises or allow it to arise
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like a combination of impersonal or divine
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lot of divinity going
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about later locations five six
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and thats why you know i understand that this is a very challenging place to be at and you know its its a big its its a big decision and it takes a lot of dedication and what i you know i have in general as a person i have a very deep drive to do some certain things like a strong really deeply rooted sense of purpose that that im not sure where its coming from i really have ive really dived into it and felt into it and done a lot of inner work and it doesnt seem to be coming from like neurosis or that kind of thing at least not anymore so for this stage of my life and for this point i feel like theres some things i need to do in the world build and whatever and and so for this stage it would be really nice i mean if you ask me three three years ago when i did a founders course and i would have said location three thats thats what i would like to be at
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empty container is gone
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higher concentration higher speed
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nondual place where theres just sort of feels like theres one thing and its spaciousness and its emptiness
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would call divine is this presence and with that is that love and joy and compassion
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peace and the freedom
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so basically the components of that meta emotion the sense of the divine and methods that are particularly good for location three
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pervasive field
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nonduality is sounds like description of nonduality where its all sort of one field of experience and youre a part of it
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nondual location
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to involve consistent changes toward this
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not a divine type of love
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hyper cognitive state
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location one layer three for someone whose system is inclined in a certain way is a very strong bridge
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you can just go straight from layer one to like a deep layer of you know location two in a very brief period
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