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all this conditioning just rising up
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LOC4
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can be very subtle
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LOC1
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shallower form of a similar
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LOC4
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one with the divine
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LOC3
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sense of divine
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LOC3
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layer one and location two
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LOC2
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that wouldnt have been completely common because i think in location four you do have to be careful of your unconscious biases
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LOC4
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practical and intellectual functions are intact for the most part
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LOC5+
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you know darkness is never really described as darkness unless its just absolutely pitch black its just described as dim and the objects that are still in perception to somebody in location five
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LOC5+
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so youre i would say youre in location two layer two
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LOC2
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location 2 finders are more likely to intuitively feel that there is a correct decision or path to take when presented with choices even if there seems to be very little rationality behind the direction being taken
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LOC2
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you have a very quiet nothingness and layer two for you and location two
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LOC2
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it might even feel as if something larger than you is making decisions and taking action through you
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LOC2
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duality of location one
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LOC1
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involves a change from feeling like there is an ambiguous but definite center inside
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LOC2
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you know what you see in everything is just what is whatever whatever your experience of that at the moment is its know its the presence or the field of awareness or the spaciousness or whatever thats everywhere or its all one thing its all experience its all reality
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LOC2
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sensation
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LOC1
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it takes an event of significant magnitude or the triggering of very deep and strong conditioning to make a dent in the continuous experience of location 3s dominant metaemotion
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LOC3
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people suppress their peace a little
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LOC4
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very divine
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LOC3
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that type of thing is also typical of location six
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LOC5+
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emotion is just gone from your perception
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LOC4
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experiencing a single emotion of love and joy and compassion or divine or panpsychist sense or any of those things that we would look for in in location three
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LOC3
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divine love and their merging
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LOC3
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and so now we would say about location two is and we probably would have been more nuanced even back then
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LOC2
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lots of love
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LOC3
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some of the other things about location two dont seem to quite have a whole lot of
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LOC2
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um so when when it pulled you when you were kind of or you just feel like you were just watching sort of your mind thinking oh this is location four i shouldnt stay here too long
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LOC4
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often have a noetic sense that everything is unfolding exactly as it should
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LOC1
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later locations
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LOC5+
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when we were just by the way when we refer to the godhead its usually used in the context of layer four of location three right its just a term that a lot of people seem to use to refer to that experience i think because you know theres such a prominent experience of the divine for those people who get a divine experience in location three that you know when they go beyond that to sort of layer four where beyond all distinction just like beyond the divine beyond god whatever you called the god
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LOC3
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everything turns into flatness
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LOC3
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reports a significant reduction in or even complete absence of thoughts
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LOC4
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charmed life
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LOC2
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location 4 an even more pronounced change
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LOC4
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you know love joy compassion those types of elements present and if they are present
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LOC3
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field of love joy compassion
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LOC3
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no motion no love
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LOC4
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b however does it seem like when youre looking that everything is just sort of showing up okay so thats just a quick test we do for nondual perception so thats a second vote in favor of location two
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LOC2
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yeah right not sameness in that sense right sameness in the sense of the the presence that that is experienced here right and so from a layer three standpoint theres some kind of presence and all pervasive presence theres generally that emotion or theres different layer in location three theres always that emotion
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LOC3
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resonate with the sense of freedom that is typically associated with location for
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LOC4
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regardless of whether youre in location one
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LOC1
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does this mean that location 4 and beyond were unknown within christianity this seems highly unlikely until very recently for christian authors what occurred in the transition to location 4 was probably difficult to share without dire personal consequences and possible retributions from church hierarchy
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LOC4
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healing
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LOC3
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doesnt seem correct
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LOC1
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location 4 individuals can have difficulty finding and building committed personal relationships no matter how wonderful things seem to start the absence of love tends to cause the other person to drift away
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LOC4
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theres no sense of divinity or anything theres no sense of panpsychist thing all there is things become very very alive everything is full of life and theres a joy i was thinking about love actually just this morning and theres really no sense of love because theres not a sense of other to be loved
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LOC3
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intrinsic to the unfolding
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LOC5+
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layer three location three
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LOC3
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conditioning
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LOC2
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presence here
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LOC3
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but theres still a little bit of nonduality
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LOC2
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location one
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LOC1
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everything that theyve ever heard or read or seen or whatever its all been about union with the divine or union with god or union with whatever deity or whatever
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LOC3
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so you can absolutely experience that if theres a strong enough trigger it can be very intense and you can experience that without identity and necessarily shifting into it it can just be something thats so strongly triggers conditioning in the system that it sort of absorbs all of your attention and it strongly impacts the system you know whether its your physiology or your cognition all of that its still a biological system somethings triggered it you know its some button thats been pressed in terms of probably safety survival and the systems reacting and that can be very intense but it doesnt necessarily mean that youve shifted into layer one in terms of your identity being
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LOC1
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in location 4 participants reported no sense of
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LOC4
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and everything arises is objects and the subject is this space which is me so it is the
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LOC2
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their emotional life becomes more and more positive and they can reach a point where negative emotions are rare
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LOC2
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positive
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LOC3
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location 4 finders simply have no interest in investing significant amounts of time doing that
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LOC4
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i feel the vibration of what i call love or either love joy or compassion usually compassion is the easiest one
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LOC3
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its a it was a distinct shift and processing that can recall and before the accident you know ive never felt like i belonged here ive never really felt human but dont know why i dont feel human theres theres no hard data to tell me that thats true or again that might be a psychotic episode i have no idea but i do remember right before the accident before the actual moment of physical impact something lifted shifted changed so dramatically that i realize that up until that point had been using the body in a very different way
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LOC3
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ive had like more kind of nondual moments than the then im like oh did i do that you know and just sort of feeling a bit like i mentioned this when i kind of think about it like it feels like there is this empty space in there
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LOC2
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god jesus or the holy spirit depending on
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LOC3
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with with a taste of locations location force freedom id say definitely you know when i when i do exercises like digging into your values my number one value always comes up freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom and if i think of something well love you know yeah freedom is number one so for some reason my my my desire for freedom my appeal towards that value just seems to pull me in that direction life circumstance wise im not set up necessarily for that type of isolation although my system did go there for a while but so it seems like its i dont know jeffrey it seems like just something that pulls me in that direction that just i want to explore that sense of freedom and i got that opening through location four and i am curious and wonder whats whats beyond that because i mean that was that was pretty uh something that i had never imagined was possible so with that in mind i feel like im settling into like i think i know whats possible but do i really because before i thought i knew what was possible and then this freedom opened up so i dont know if that answers the question but theres a curiosity i know that the you know theres a saying in spanish i dont know if it translates in english but the i think it is yeah the curiosity killed the cat so i feel like i was almost killed im okay with being killed if theres this freedom to be experienced and tasted
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LOC4
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but it becomes more salient and
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LOC3
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yeah even the word space makes less sense its just like a well this is hard to describe but more of seeming like not knowing about space or distance or location or like putting this room in some context or this body in some context its just a less of that
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LOC2
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joy love and the divine as indicatorsjoy is another common indicator that is used as feedback by some in locations 2 and 3
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LOC3
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divine version
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LOC3
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location three direction
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LOC3
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unconditional positive regard
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LOC4
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this can lead to increased isolation that is selfimposed but viewed as more desirable than having a lot of story driven
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LOC1
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by the time youre in location four you cant feel anything obviously by location four and later it would just be some sensation in the body if you can feel anything like very subtle sense of something which is hard to pick up but you can still detect it if its deep enough
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LOC4
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storytelling narrative based
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LOC1
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very profound neutrality
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LOC4
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path of freedom
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LOC4
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though finders at this location remain socially adept
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LOC2
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sense of union with the divine and absence of personal emotion
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LOC3
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and i mean one thing to consider about the charmed life place thing is if you are more deconditioned
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LOC5+
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less emotion expression and layer three of location two
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LOC2
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location for type of nonduality
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LOC4
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doesnt prevent negative emotions from arising
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LOC1
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location one i feel uh a little bit of noise id say and conditioning yeah my conditioning comes to the foreground
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LOC1
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world was unable to be any other way
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LOC3
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location 3 involves
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LOC3
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aspects of life that disappeared and imagine that they were good and not focus on the negative ones
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LOC4
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location one layer two right now because im feeling that im seeing from the body um but at the same time its like completely different from before because im like the peace and the stillness
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LOC1
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location four is no personal emotion
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LOC4
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actually location four type perception
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LOC4
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unusual perceptual effects
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LOC4
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nonduality and location two
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LOC2
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its very functional
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LOC3
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so that would mean you know any qualities of joy or love compassion anything that feels sort of sacred or divine if you are prone to that experience and location three or otherwise that sense of presence pervading everything especially if you can get a sense of it being somehow conscious or intelligent those are sort of location three type layer three experiences
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LOC3
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telltale mono emotion that is indicative of location three or if thats just merely a sensation
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LOC3
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it will still probably have you centered you know and primarily looking from location one
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LOC1
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its everything but its also nothing
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LOC4
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wanted to share it but it was just so so beautiful just everything shining with love i mean it was just so im im hoping thats going to be my hook into into location three and then i honestly would love because you know i would really love to be able to serve them all go everywhere but i do have to and thats really not advisable at this stage is it like in terms of making a living and and staying
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LOC3
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however when asked to describe the details of their firstperson experience differences between them emerge even individuals who have studied and practiced their religion or spiritual system together in the same place for decades can arrive at different versions of fundamental wellbeing sometimes these variations can be more in sync with individuals outside of their tradition than those within it think of it this way there might be only a handful of people within a given tradition who experience location 4
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LOC4
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location seven
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LOC5+
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i think for me um this it feels very natural so the and i yeah i got feedback as well that that that people when when i feel this this inner radiation so when i feel this this energy of this love inside that people notice that around me as well so feedback that that they see and feel that so and yeah this is a reason as well why i would like to go to to feel more of that because i want to to work as well more with as part of my job with patients and clients where its important to to connect to them
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LOC3
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