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yeah so that you know thats there you know i have excellent night vision you know people will go camping and if we go for a hike and a trail and a dark trail people will have flashlights id be like shut those flashlights off you know and they cant see but i can see its like i can see better without the flashlights on and then a few you know sort of you know issues have been like i would be sitting and the the visual field would say half of my box on the zoom call right would start to fill with light and be just wavy and so half was you know normal and half was was light filled and so that happened a few times so ive had sort of those quirky things dont experience the luminosity i think you mentioned that on the call i kind of see a halo effect but its not the way you youve spoken about things being luminous
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nondual type experience
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and i could feel that it was location four but it gradually sort of faded and i feel like i returned
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something that seems true to a finder in location 3
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and maybe it pulls you over to location three
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path of humanity
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a person has been in location 4 for a while that same freedom from approval the elimination of conditioning around social norms and other key elements of this location often make it hard to establish longerterm and more meaningful relationships
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fundamental sense of okayness but its kind of in the background
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god
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but you know the nature of the thoughts like if im to compare myself to ten years ago you know the nature of myself is very different its theres not really a tangible self per se theres no voice in my head or like not really many im not really interested in narratives or not many narrative thoughts going back to me its just not something im really drawn to yet i do think about life situations i do analyze things i do make plans theres just not so much backward looking activity in that sense so yeah i can go on
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the compassion unity and love make connection with others natural and enjoyable
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feel like its kind
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but youve got layer two but youre also you know solidly established and location two
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when this is experienced there is a sense that everything is truly just one thing
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transcendence
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its what were looking for too is essentially that sense of what youre you know location seven or something its like theres only the existence or only the universe and its so dominant in experience but when that location eight shift happens its like there was no sense of something looking at existence of course and so you think its just existence looking at your eyes but when that its like that flip its almost like suddenly that is looking you know
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and get stuck in location one
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but these other ones not quite you know like in location two it says like increasingly positive emotion you know that sort of thing doesnt feel like thats really part of the experience
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you know theres still that merger theres still that union but that spaciousness and that you know that that sort of emptiness quality of sorts is combining with that with some of those qualities of location three like the sense of the divine or like the panpsychist sense
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but just like waking up in the morning its its very much mind content mostly around you know work or planning not a lot of like rumination or fear based thoughts but still a lot of content and being fairly embedded in the content still not like prior to transitioning which is like a huge difference but
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merging feeling
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location three its like they sink more into some aspect of the qualities that hold them in location three at at layer three you know and they dont quite get to you know the the progression from layer four and then location four kind of standpoint
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location 1 individuals are on the earliest portion of the continuum
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just the decision just arises spontaneously and there is just an assumption that i made the decision
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healing and feels amazing
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could kind of find this vibrating quality to perception
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fairly significant amount of proclivity right now to location three or to being able to move in the direction of location three
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very intense form of nonduality
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no emotion
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joy
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it doesnt sound like you have a very clear memory of that experience of union or dissolving into the divine so it might still have been location two
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energy sort of beingness
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i am the bliss now
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i think sometimes i glimpse location three every couple every now and then
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but really as soon as you begin to deepen in location two that self begins to fall away
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range of emotions these individuals experience becomes increasingly positive and negative emotions become less frequent
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distinct consciousness thats its own
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love anything
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yeah it was when my dad died yeah yeah and you know i was like crying but i was like well this is just love so this is okay i wouldnt say this is i want it to stop yeah
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you could be a dominant experience when your mind when youre when your system is just relaxing right it can just be zoomed out into its default location that might be like location two layer two
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excel in their jobs
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you know everybodys terrified of location one theyre horrified that theyre going to get stuck there or you know whatever else
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theres no love version of location for
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i do think you can in this case mean youre experiencing locations that are extremely rare so youre definitely not an ordinary case and you do have pk type experiences by location eight and nine
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location 2 also still experience a mix of emotions
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martinbeen built up in the direction of those desires and the motivations behind them
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individualized portions of their self going away
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panpsychist sort of love
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because i feel like i should probably you know because i noticed the the other day when i was like oh i should this is not going to work i need to come out of this location for thing it was to location to layer three that i popped down to
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you can get out of it and then you can move on to to the location three stuff and if you feel you know youre done with it you know after a few days or youve got enough access to it that if conditioning arises you can you know sink into it and use it to whatever extent you want to then you know move on whenever you want to
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in location three there was a certain clarity that i dont have now because it was like less commotion or deadness because like the love would infuse every thought so a thought would come up and instead of me where i am right now i dont want to deal with it it would just be like oh its okay its lets lets just sit with it and the loving feeling would just infuse every thought and then certain judgments that id have oh well i dont really need to look at it that way i can well i can just put love in this or i can just love it so that that id say that was like the most stark contrast
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it isnt heavily invested in protecting the narrative sense of self
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alien
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im pretty sure youve been past location six um so lets see where how far out you might have gone
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love for everything
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result in those sorts of characteristics that we have listed underneath location two and the charts and stuff
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the thing about all the things that youre mentioning is that they really you know for someone else could be something that might you know trigger them going to a lower location or something like that but theyre not necessarily things that would hold someone in a location you know like you can be in location one layer two as your dominant experience and still have you know triggers that pull you down to layer one or something but nonetheless be anchored you know at a higher layer than that or even over in location two
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the
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everything is conscious
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yeah absolutely um okay so location eight
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it mean like it does feel like theres a kind of contraction here right so im like okay this is obviously the listener i get it i get it um but it also at the same time feels spacious
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single positive emotion basically goes away
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it could be that that mist type feeling that field type thing mist type thing as its showing up for you which is a totally legit way of describing it might you know you might start to see sort of a consciousness emerge in it
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layer three of location two because youll be experiencing some sort of separation some sort of union
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pinnacle of
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feeling like a return to a more bodily
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location three are um a single positive emotion um youre calling it a positive feeling yeah that is kind of a mixture of love joy and compassion um and an absence of other emotions essentially certainly negative emotions yeah um in addition to that theres also a sense of union with either what feels like the divine in everything or a sense of kind of an all pervasive presence which you call calling an energy
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then your description of location four sounds you know it sounds like location four you know no sense of self no sense of agency no emotion um it sounds like you probably did have a glimpse of location four
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its sort of like the problem with people saying theres no doer and that theres the doer can sort of go away and location too
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youre sort of still in the mind
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okay great so do you think when that centralist experience shows up that its a transition from location one
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peace and bliss
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spirit
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i refer to these as facets of a single metaemotion
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meta emotion of love joy passion
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because location two layer four can sound so much like
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change in sense of self and perception
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warm summer sunbeam
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a major reason for this was because the change they experienced in motivation after their transition to fundamental wellbeing produced negative impacts on their income social life or other aspects of their life and they simply decided to switch backmany people who rejected fundamental wellbeing had one major thing in common they had experienced rapid transitions that took them directly into location 4 in one case a person read a book about fundamental wellbeing went to sleep and woke up in location 4 despite being absorbed in a previously undreamtof level of wellbeing and sense of freedom he felt hed traded his humanity for it it is not uncommon for those who land in location 4 without religious or spiritual moorings or a psychological frame of reference to feel this way
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my favorite definition of illusion is that its something real that appears to be something else other than what it is so its real smoke and mirrors that the magician uses to create the illusion that they just saw the woman in half you know so so thats kind of interesting perspective on it
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theres lots of things that should bring it to the fore and they just dont
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location 4 finders feeling more at ease in communicating across a wide variety of people the difference is one of degree
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heightened
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nondual location two and where your eyes are open it sounds like the tendency is to pull more towards location one but not entirely
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so just hold those descriptions loosely and when something you know shifts in your experience that feels like its in the direction of location three just ask yourself you know does it feel like its all one thing
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i would say theres still bliss but its like a its like a lovely bliss
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sort of love and joy and gratitude
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if you go through location four and dont deepen which means you dont get really isolated in layer four that makes it more likely youd be on the path of humanity
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peace
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and location two that are in the direction of location three
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no love
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location 4 since it often conflicts with deeply held beliefs and ideologies though again its important to note that there usually isnt a sense of agency involved to the finder it appears as if the debate and subsequent rejection just happen
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lose their personal individual love for their child
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unprovoked bliss and happiness
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that sounds great okay so based on what i am hearing i would say that you absolutely have an experience of location two layer three cool im trying or not that also now whether or not you are and you know that already all right otherwise you would have had to skip this interview to be digging a trench somewhere to run some water lines you know because or youll never be running water lines without paying a few thousand dollars to get the thing fixed and then it breaks down two minutes later and costs you another couple thousand dollars or whatever right right um and so theres a but that doesnt preclude the possibility that some that you have fluidity over to you know location three layer three
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non dual perspective
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often feel that they dont commit much information about their daily life to memory
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individualized self
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sounds like you know layer three of location two
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finders who have children often say that their transition to location 4 didnt occur until they felt freed from the bulk of their parental obligations whether by the death of their child or simply the child getting married and beginning a family of his or her usually her own
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