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recently some christian finders have started to discuss it for decades the noted catholic mystic bernadette roberts 19312017 documented some of this later territory because she found it largely lacking in the christian mystical literature her writings catalogue a personal struggle to make location 4
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more often youre getting to it in some sort of intentional way with practices and meditation and and whatever else
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location 2 a perceptual change occurred
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location 5
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but then also you know in location for theres no sense of agency and theres sort of you know in the public its a very much a smear between what these things sort of mean
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far from from humanity
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wellbeing is experienced that previously could not have been imagined regardless of how happy they were previously
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layer three in location two
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wouldnt be divine
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location four because i mean like fluidity is the name of the game
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thats a common thing for people to have when theyre first in the experience but then it can settle out sometimes over days sometimes over weeks sometimes over months frankly but typically it does settle out for those who have that experience going into location three
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an allpervasive
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joyfulness
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fluid
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there is no doer
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where the spiritual adherent increasingly feels merged or unified with god
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peaceful state
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two would be you know vast spacious emptiness and i do experience vastness you know if i close my eyes and just go inside thats something ive felt for decades but i dont know the yeah im just confused about presence versus the presence of fullness versus emptiness i dont experience a lot of contrast so when im in my full heart space i dont sense that theres so much greater presence than when i feel like im in a more emotionally neutral or emotionally absent space
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i need to work and no decisions need to be made
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do not report feeling any divinity at all
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and now youve got this very multidimensional highly fluid system thats operating from probably at least what you could think of at the moment as like layer five or deeper and able to access qualities of at least down to location three could be to where youre getting some access to agency some access to the impersonal love
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non duality
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meta emotion of love joy and compassion
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location two layer four is an easier traverse between going between the layers and to then when you flip into four it
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i found an exemplar of someone who i found inspiring and how theyre navigating the world and it was only one week so who knows if the rest of his life is a mess but somehow energetically and his stability and his ability to pretty much be in grounded in the situation with a great deal of palpable presence and peace so again if i was kind of trying to reverse engineer it i was thinking well that s potentially like location three with access to layer one
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and then and the sensory smoke you know just like somethings burning and theres nothing burning but im just smelling smoke so other than that i cant recall them
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and then when its more you know having that deeper experience where theres the sense of union or the dissolving the melting into creation thats you know possibly glimpses of location three
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union
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location four feels a little bit like you know get thee behind me satan
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divine or of an all
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just sitting and staring and nature for ever possibly you know hoping squirrels bring you nuts or something so you have something to eat while youre staring out
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feel love and joy compassion whether that feels divine or just impersonal
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i had a retreat for example in just in in august where i was basically almost all of the time in awe i felt the most of the time in location three
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everybodys frozen
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to no center at all
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least spaciousness still from location one
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from an apparently loving place
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stark nothingness
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this sense of fundamental okayness is usually in the background of experience at location 1
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fluidity and the highly sensitive person high absorption you know sort of sense is what im
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seeing you as this magical being
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all right location three has the sense of divinity or panpsychists theres a sense of being in union with that um its that single emotion of joy love compassion maybe some other facets depending on someones belief systems or cultural underpinnings things like that whereas layer three is probably more of what youre thinking off layer three is more of that field like presence that we talked about i dont have to repeat it because we just did a video on all that
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location to type situation
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it wouldnt be location four if youve got that universal love
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happiness definitely a positive bias its a field its a pervasive field its interpenetrating everything so its kind of within everything um and its trying to kind of trying to break out from inside of everything and yeah it has this overall definite theres definitely an above zero positive bias to everything i cant access it right now but sometimes when ive sunk into it ive been able to access a deeper layer of stillness which would call like an absolute stillness and its rock solid stillness its its totally unmovable and thats not normally there but ive been able to access it a few times and that seems very deep when you sink into it its its seems bottomless
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so much so that it made me think gosh you know its almost unusual for someone to have this nice a deconditioning process without having jumped over to location two and maybe not knowing it
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divine being that is pervading everything is everything
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location 4 there is typically no experience of emotion its easy to understand how this might cause relationship problems
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describe a sense of the divine with that one
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charmed life nature of the experience in location two layer three
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increase in freedom
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location three layer three maybe you experience again that you feel like you have a soul kind of thing or something
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mysterious
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humanity
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emotional strength and or stickiness of narrativeself related thoughts
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theres a significant amount of richness in the human experience
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it infuses experience most of the time
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i still feel like im very much a location in location one and it s just going to layer two
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i feel like youve been to location four in the past and that you came back from it for relationship reasons primarily in the documen
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fundamental okayness
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feeling like youre dissolving into it
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for a faith such as christianity feelings of divinity increase until they reach a crescendo in the furthest reaches of location 3
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peaceful abandonment
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individuals who initially land in location 4 as their first experience of fundamental wellbeing generally report a great deal of automaticity and obviously didnt develop it as a habit
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find myself gravitating towards the silence you know and i can feel i can feel the pull like to i just want to be by myself i just want to sink right and which to me is wonderful but also slightly perilous because i could see how you go say too deep there but yeah you go off on that path
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i think because it it felt like theres this like almost cold empty space and a kind of clearness to it by just like a lot of like it empty empty is what it feels like empty
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divine in nature
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seems like a very nice place to be a sense of divinity all the time you know loving your its you know youre happy very happy and so on and youre still able to interact in the world
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location three might be that single emotion or it might be some merging with divinity
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often reported that their sense of self seemed
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memory is definitely worse at this point
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3
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i guess its because a few months ago for a period of time i was i cant figure out whether i should put you on speaker or gallery here um for a period of time i um i felt really a lot of the feeling of sacredness um and and there was a lot of um a lot of joy and no joy okay there was a lot of um what i call it there was a lot of bliss i would actually call it bliss so there was like when i in my body it was just a lot of bliss and i related more to sacredness kind of sacredness and everything and i almost felt like there was too much energy in my body like it was it was almost like too much bliss i dont know if that makes sense um and and then i i didnt think i was nondual because i didnt understand what non i didnt really get it until ive been watching these interviews and so then when i started watching the interviews i realized that or some either something shifted or i realized or something shifted because i dont feel that really strong bliss so much even in the first interview i did i felt it more and then over the last couple of weeks it feels more like um it feels more like just a lovely like contentment and fullness and like oh its just so nice
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lot of sense of self there in the mind
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location two at a period in your life where there were more ups and downs
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transitioned to location 1
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i dont know and theres still theres an awareness that never goes away that im not this right this is well this is a way to interact and interface and uh but its an extraordinarily confining compression so you know i really i really value the research orientation of your work which is what drew me to the body of your work and ive been trying to fit myself into the matrix because i know that theres lots of excellent data in it and and honestly i just im struggling against the binary distinctions it feels it feels odd
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sort of the pinnacle of human experience
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okay cool so location two um and you know from a richard lang standpoint it sounds a lot to me like layer two it takes you to the spaciousness and you know all of that type of experience
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in contrast the location three type qualities are more related to the obviously that meta emotion so love joy compassion particularly if they have you know the more impersonal qualities of those
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overabundance
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these feel like facets of a single metaemotion
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big distinction is often in the sense of whether or not there is a union or a merging or a dissolving into or a sameness or you know and and no difference from and i am sort of you know that presence that shows up you know you know to borrow your word from a minute ago channeling jesus you know you know is you know is is there a merger or a union with jesus
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stillness and presence
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where someone at location 1 on the continuum might have a short outburst and make a brief hand gesture individuals
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expansiveness
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i have emotion
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this includes experiences like felicity or frustration though we must be careful here
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they often get exceptionally good at
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generically impersonal love
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and but there s this is like one very positive feeling where that in a very strong connectedness to other people i so there is a sense of self but it s not it s not important so it s but i can feel the difference
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and no apparent sense of agency or ability to
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subtle nonduality comes more to the foreground in location to
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unless theres some crazy conditioning or something that pulls someone down or which is which often has to be like some significant trauma in the system that just locks them into like layer two of location four you know at which point theyd probably rather not be in fundamental wellbeing
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christian and islamic finders are also more likely to feel the love facet as divine love
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synchronistic unfolding
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merger
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theres a lot of spaciousness and a feeling of a space of awareness in which thoughts emotions sensations perceptions arise and its very much a default for me you know i dont identify necessarily purely with just the contracted sort of psychological inner being and a physical body i do feel more expanded and feel like all of the the whole the entire bubble of perception is sort of me or im made up of that same whatever that is
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layer four of location four
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a state where that very that emotion is present thats a combination of love joy and compassion
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