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[SoT] before what? [EoT]
[SoT] before I removed them. I thought they got re-installed when I reinstalled the nvidia-glx-180 [EoT]
[SoT] did you try sudo aptitude reinstall nvidia-common ? [EoT] [SoU] that seems to be the package responsible for pulling in the other nvidia packages on my system [EoU]
[SoT] processing right now. Stand by... [EoT]
[SoT] but it headed on into X anyway? [EoT]
[SoT] yes. It seems to be back to the 800x600 display. [EoT]
[SoT] so... we've gone in a circle? :) [EoT]
[SoT] Yeah... But what a ride! [EoT]
[SoT] you pays your money, you gets your ticket. [EoT] [SoU] what does xvinfo | grep Adaptor tell you? [EoU] [SoU] oh, you'll have to do it from inside a terminal on your X screen [EoU]
[SoT] xvinfo: unable to open display [EoT]
[SoT] or xvinfo -display :0 | grep Adaptor [EoT]
[SoT] I thought as much. I had done a CTRL-ALT-F1 to issue the command and when I did CTRL-ALT-F7 to get back to the x display, it was back to the blank text screen with the underscore cursor. I'm restarting x to try again. Stand by... [EoT]
[SoT] but X is running again? o_O [EoT]
[SoT] yes. That was from an xterm window [EoT]
[SoT] uh. okay, i did not expect that. :) [EoT] [SoU] i'm about out of ideas. the only other thing I can really think of is using the restricted driver manager to disable everything, reboot, and use the restricted driver manager to turn nvidia back on [EoU]
[SoT] hang on... a thought occurs... [EoT]
[SoT] uh oh [EoT]
[SoT] I checked the proprietary drivers tool, and it looks like the nvidia driver is not active. I'm going to activate it. stand by... [EoT]
[SoT] i'm sitting down out of spite. [EoT]
[SoT] I got a nice login screen, then I got an arrow cursor, then... the monitor displaying Input not supported [EoT]
[SoT] however! your system might now be in a state where nvidia-xconfig may actually work. [EoT]
[SoT] service gdm stop followed by startx brought me back to an 800x600 display. [EoT]
[SoT] boo. [EoT]
[SoT] did you want me to do the nvidia-xconfig? If so, should I do it from an xterm window? [EoT]
[SoT] yes, and yes [EoT]
[SoT] restarted x. The System>Preferences>display has brought up the nvidia control window. [EoT]
[SoT] that sounds promising? [EoT]
[SoT] it does sound promising. It's not detecting my monitor, and it is only allowing 800x600 and 640x400. [EoT]
[SoT] but it's actually running the nvidia driver now? [EoT]
[SoT] It seems to be running the nvidia driver, as far as I can tell. [EoT]
[SoT] well yay. that's something, at least. but i need to afk for a bit before my eyes fall out :) [EoT]
[SoT] you have been a tremendous help. I thank you. [EoT]
[SoT] you're welcome! sorry we haven't made much progress [EoT]
[SoT] we've made a lot of progress as far as I'm concerned. I'm going to cut and paste some of the lines from my 8.10 xorg.conf to see if I can get the resolution up to a usable level. [EoT]
[SoT] not a bad idea. some of the settings unhidden by the advanced button in nvidia-settings might be of help too [EoT] [SoU] but! before you do anything, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.sortofworking ;) [EoU]
[SoT] good thought. [EoT]
[SoT] heh, hi there :) [EoT]
[SoT] x is working, mostly. [EoT]
[SoT] yay! what did you have to do? [EoT] [SoU] oh, no problem at all [EoU]
[SoT] turns out that my gnome is corrupted. KDE and XFCE work just fine, but when I use Gnome, it switches to a resolution my monitor can't handle. [EoT]
[SoT] wow, that's weird. [EoT]
[SoT] yeah. I'm researching gconf-editor at someone's suggestion. [EoT]
[SoT] ew, good luck. just as much fun as windows regedit :) [EoT]
[SoT] Yes. So it seems. Fortunately there isn't a lot of cryptic hex values running all through it. [EoT]
[SoT] you know, if that's the case... one thing you might try doing just for kicks is creating a brand new user and trying to log into gnome [EoT] [SoU] if for whatever reason *your* gnome settings are borked, the ones installed from the skeleton shouldn't be. [EoU]
[SoT] there's an idea. I was considering doing an uninstall/reinstall of gnome, but your idea is somewhat less drastic. [EoT]
[SoT] and a reinstall probably wouldn't help you since it wouldn't touch settings in your home directory [EoT]
[SoT] Hmmm.... maybe I can just remove the gnome settings in my home directory and let gnome re-create them. [EoT]
[SoT] you could do that, and I've done it before too. but remember that application settings get stored in there too. I'd try the new user approach just to see if there's any benefit in doing that [EoT]
[SoT] Wise as always. [EoT]
[SoT] I have never heard of that file before in my life :D [EoT] [SoU] but I'm glad to hear you got it working! I'll remember that for next time. and/or will just send people to #gnome. ;) [EoU]
[SoT] the #gnome folks had me fixed up in two posts. [EoT]
[SoT] now you're just making me feel bad. :) [EoT]
[SoT] Not to worry. I'm sure those #gnome people would die to know some of the things I've seen you walk other people through. [EoT]
[SoT] aw, thanks. :) [EoT] [SoU] #kde [EoU]
[SoT] Thanks. Still struggling with http://imagebin.org/85792 [EoT]
[SoT] I figured :) [EoT] [SoU] grep -v 'pattern' will exclude all lines matching pattern [EoU]
[SoT] Thanks. [EoT]
[SoT] I've never done it, but I know that inside the network-manager connection setup you can add multiple addresses under the ipv4 tab [EoT] [SoU] (and of course under the ipv6 tab, if you need it) [EoU] [SoU] if network-manager doesn't work, you can try reading http://adventuresinswitching.blogspot.com/2008/05/setup-multiple-ip-addresses-on-ubuntu.html [EoU]
[SoT] I am walking someone through it. They are connected remotely. [EoT]
[BOS] you may need to install the 'samba' package befor that shareing stuff works [EoT] [SoU] ive had issues in the past where it wouldent auto-install samba. but that may be fixed by now. [EoU]
[SoT] it has auto-installed samba, and i DO see the folder shared, it just won't mount [EoT]
[SoT] mount what/where? whos mounting what? [EoT]
[SoT] me, I am mounting. What? Box A from Box B [EoT]
[SoT] give the users samba passwords with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' [EoT] [SoU] for linux to linux. You could also use 'nfs' or 'ssh' (or sshfs) to access files on the remote box's [EoU]
[SoT] i know but earlier people on #ubuntu recommended samba, now people recommend something else :/ Ubuntu mind you automatically chose samba too when i took the right-click on folder route to explore the 'share option' I'd be happy to use NFS but samba should work too [EoT]
[SoT] all can work.. you dident mention Linux to linux.. earlier. [EoT] [SoU] the cifs stuff works very well for linux to linux.. but it depends on your exact needs. plus if you ever get a windows machineonthe lan you will want to use samba. [EoU]
[SoT] but i did earlier when i came in 6hrs ago [EoT]
[SoT] samba is a bit slower. and has limitations. it depends on how you are going to use it. [EoT]
[SoT] what limitations? [EoT]
[SoT] I only just now saw you say 'linux to linux' its not like using samba is going to hurt anything. [EoT] [SoU] you could use samba, nfs, and sshfs all the same time. [EoU] [SoU] read up on the samba sites/docs - for one thing.. if ya make a directory called "Stuff" and another called 'stuff' :) it can get confused. [EoU] [SoU] given how common samba is.. you will want to learn about it eventually [EoU]
[SoT] but you think nfs is better between linux machines? why? [EoT]
[SoT] nfs works very well for me. [EoT] [SoU] for a quick 'shareing of data' i tend to use 'sshfs' [EoU] [SoU] try it and see. :) [EoU]
[SoT] apt-get install sshfs? [EoT]
[SoT] i wouldent think so. [EoT] [SoU] you going to mount 10000 of them? [EoU]
[SoT] no, /home [EoT]
[SoT] having /home mounted over nfs CAN have... issues :) [EoT] [SoU] it sucks if your home 'server' crashes [EoU]
[SoT] well, i've got samba working now... where i had gone wrong was the names... I had to change from WORKGROUP to network:/// [EoT]
[SoT] i tend to mount remote box's to like /nfs/machine1 and /nfs/machine2 and so on. [EoT] [SoU] perment sshfs mounts in /sshfs/ :) [EoU]
[SoT] i see, thank you [EoT]
[SoT] yes and a subdir for each macihne to keep things organized [EoT]
[SoT] i see you actually create a folder called /nfs [EoT]
[SoT] set the workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf perhaps? [EoT] [SoU] irc basics normally /join #whatever [EoU]
[SoT] yes, but Empathy is not allowing that [EoT]
[SoT] read the docs for that client then I guess. I perfer a dedicated irc client for irc. [EoT] [SoU] or perhaps click on the #channelname manu clients do it that way as well [EoU]
[SoT] sure... but, still should work .. did in Pidgin... any idea why Pidgin was replaced by this inferior IM client (im not just talking about poorer irc functionality) [EoT]
[SoT] i dont use any of those for IRC. I perfer a real irc client. [EoT]
[SoT] as i said... I'm not referring to irc functionality, although does that better, but general IM usage [EoT]
[SoT] apt-get remove whatever [EoT] [SoU] id leave it installed and just install/use the other. [EoU]
[SoT] ok, that is a thought [EoT]
[SoT] mv *.jpg /path/to/otherplace [EoT]
[SoT] lol touche [EoT]
[SoT] or only ones you made on a set day a week ago... [EoT] [SoU] what if you wanted to move ONLY ones that began with A, or Ab or xomthing.. [EoU]
[SoT] seems using gui cut 'n paste is a lot quicker. Is command line overrated? [EoT]
[SoT] i find GUI's are overrated [EoT] [SoU] or use 'mc' in the terminal if you want. [EoU] [SoU] thats a compiz feature [EoU] [SoU] ssh has a great many features. file transfering is one of them. [EoU] [SoU] you can use ssh and winscp to get files back/forth from a linux box to a windows box. [EoU]
[SoT] I see. At the moment I have two Ubuntu machines but its useful to know [EoT]
[SoT] you may want to use sshfs, or learn about 'scp' then [EoT] [SoU] ssh is worth learning. [EoU]
[SoT] where do I learn about scp? [EoT]
[SoT] theres books written on ssh and its related tools like scp. [EoT] [SoU] scp is designed to work almost like the cp command. only over a network :) [EoU] [SoU] scp foo willis@server:/home/willis/theplace [EoU]
[SoT] I have wine already, so now how do i get Age of Empire. REpository? [EoT]
[SoT] why would you think that? [EoT]
[SoT] i see! I thought it was something I can get in repositories, lol [EoT]
[SoT] its a comercial game.. you buy it. put in the cd.. run teh installer [EoT] [SoU] seen it for $10 in the bargin game shelfs. [EoU] [SoU] it ran ok in wine a few months back when i tried it. [EoU] [SoU] its the name of one of MS's comercial games.. [EoU]
[SoT] i don't know... I thought there was Ubuntu version [EoT]
[SoT] theres similer games. I saw one just the other day that came out. I forget its name [EoT] [SoU] check out '0 A.D' --> http://www.workswithu.com/2009/10/13/0-ad-promises-real-gaming-for-ubuntu/ [EoU]
[SoT] cheers... [EoT]
[SoT] one you added? or one of the defaults? [EoT]
[SoT] one I added. ssh added and bookmarked, but the ifconfig settings have changed making that bookmark obsolete [EoT]
[SoT] open file manager, left side panel that shows the things.. right click on it.. delete/remove [EoT] [SoU] theres some other interface to edit them also. right click on places menu perhaps? [EoU]
[SoT] simple, :p I was trying to right-click directly from the Places drop-down menu [EoT]
[SoT] chrome is more optmized. but lacking in some ways. so use whatever one you want. [EoT]
[SoT] optimized? [EoT]
[SoT] yes. there was a lot of work in some parts of the chrome areas to gain speed. I forget the details. i think the javascript engine had big improvements. and proberly other things. [EoT]
[SoT] I used to use FF but since using chromium I never find myself opening FF anymore [EoT]
[SoT] i had issues blocking all the ads i wanted to block in chrome for the most part. and some extensions dident work as well [EoT]
[SoT] thx [EoT]
[SoT] some sites taht FF+adblock blocked.. never did get blockjed by chrome and adblock. (that may be fixed by now) [EoT]
[SoT] some sites seem to look better in FF is all i've found to be different so far [EoT]
[SoT] ive not really noticed that. but there was a few sites i always went to that had the most annoying fullpage popup ads that made switch back to FF real fast. [EoT] [SoU] i also seem to get a lot of differance in the hard-printouts of vasrious sites in different browsers. some sites are totally unuseable when printed in some browsers [EoU]
[SoT] agues, adblocking is something chrome needs to add/refine [EoT]
[SoT] yes. i belive so [EoT]
[SoT] usually comes out end of month [EoT]
[SoT] you have been in a cave then. :) [EoT] [SoU] because you are using a LTS you need to tell it to ugrade to non-lts versions [EoU] [SoU] thats like a top 10 faq in here the last few weeks. :) [EoU] [SoU] lts -> lts is how it works by default [EoU] [SoU] unless you tell it otherwise [EoU] [SoU] because you were not usinga LTS.. :) its in the synaptic package manager menus/settings soemwhere... [EoU]
[SoT] thx. so i can go ahead and click Install now [EoT]
[SoT] proberly safest to reinsatll.. If the isntaller crashed.. its hard to tell what dident get done. [EoT]
[SoT] can't diagnose and install missing bits?? [EoT]
[SoT] not very easially and how can you be 100% sure you got them all [EoT] [SoU] the /lib/moduiles are part of the kernel packages.. you could try reinstalling the kernels. [EoU]
[SoT] during the updates new (latest) kernel modules got installed but still get the error message. Weirdly, haven't encountered any actual problems running Ubuntu [EoT]
[SoT] could be old kernel has the issues.. [EoT] [SoU] remove any old kernels. perhaps [EoU]
[SoT] tell me more? [EoT]
[SoT] via package maanger, or i cheat and use ubuntu-tweak [EoT] [SoU] install and try ubuntu-tweak it has a clean up feature. [EoU] [SoU] whever you want. [EoU]
[SoT] | ActionParsnip where are all the wallpapers kept so I can have all 1 placve [EoT]
[SoT] depends on your needs.. and what you are running [EoT]
[SoT] did you mean specific application? [EoT]
[SoT] running ubuntu.. wow. :) how specific can ya get.. heh.. [EoT]
[SoT] running ubuntu [EoT]
[SoT] for most people.. the answer is 'no' [EoT] [SoU] ubuntu can do anything from run on a cell phone to a mega-server farm.. so wether or not you need a firewall depends on how you are using it. [EoU] [SoU] theres a winecfg progrfam installed with wine. [EoU]
[SoT] yes, used to find it under applications but having trouble with the new release [EoT]
[SoT] use the terminal/search feature of the sidebar. [EoT] [SoU] i do both [EoU] [SoU] dist-upgrade is a more intensive upgrade [EoU] [SoU] i tend to use their deb/ppa [EoU]
[SoT] thx [EoT]
[SoT] theres unmount, then theres 'safely removeing' [EoT] [SoU] use the shell and the umount command may be a better way to do it. [EoU]
[SoT] saferly removing it or ejects certainly results in gparted not seeing it at all. However, I did try sudo umount /dev/sdb which seemed to have the same result as 'ejecting' 'safely removing it' [EoT]
[BOS] Does an ybody know anything about Banshee whatsoever? [EoT]
[SoT] sure [EoT]
[SoT] - any idea, since you seem to be a heavy banshee user? [EoT]
[SoT] id tags you mean in the mp3's? [EoT]
[SoT] - yeah. Banshee organizes my music by ID tag and a lot of my music doesnt have ID tags... I just want it to import my music "as is"... the way its already organized in my home folder [EoT]
[SoT] don't know [EoT]
[SoT] - why is banshee being a beeyotch to control though? I just want it to look at my music as is - like amarok did................ [EoT]
[SoT] this channel is for stable versions [EoT]
[SoT] - I know, but if you take notice to what I siad, Ubuntu and Debian are the same in terms of troubleshooting wireless, and as we speak I am downloading Ubuntu to install on the iBook. But, thanks anyway. [EoT]
[SoT] You probably don't need AVG in Ubuntu [EoT]
[SoT] - I have an infected flash drive with conficker on it and I'm trying to zap it from my Ubuntu machine. I use this flash drive at work (windows network) [EoT]
[SoT] Can't you just remove whatever is on it and start over? [EoT]
[SoT] - No. I cant. [EoT] [SoU] - I have a ton of stuff on there from work. I recently put a lot of new stuff on it and haven't updated my backup. (I rsync my flash drive contents to my ubuntu machine for redundancy) [EoU]
[SoT] I am not sure if any of the Linux tools can remove Conflicter, but I think there's something for Windows that can [EoT]
[SoT] - yeah, but every time I plug it in to a windows machine, it gets instantly infected. [EoT]
[SoT] it won't infect your Ubuntu install though, since it's a Windows virus [EoT]
[SoT] - I know. That's why I'm trying to scan it from within Ubuntu. [EoT]
[SoT] you can probably copy the files to your Ubuntu install, and then remove everything on the USB stick [EoT]
[SoT] - and then copy the files back and restore the virus. Right? [EoT]
[SoT] maybe, but probably not, I mean if the files open up ok in Ubuntu, then they are probably ok [EoT]
[SoT] - the files open fine, but conficker itself is a file soemwhere on my fl ash drive. [EoT]
[SoT] right, well you copy/move the files that you know about, the ones that are your data, and then format the drive [EoT]
[SoT] - that's what we're actively working on, but when you have 4 people for 1,500 computers, youc an only go so fast. [EoT]
[SoT] and if you got it from your job in the first place, they should sort out their computer security [EoT]
[SoT] - we have a network sniffer in place which actually pinpointed the exact computers that are infected, but I only got word of this around 7pm and I left at 6pm. [EoT]
[SoT] I see that's your job ok, maybe also in the future some Desktop Linux can be used there, so that problems like this probably don't happen [EoT]
[SoT] - When you have educational software that a truckload of money was spent on when it's Windows based, it's very hard to convince a board of old timers that an operating system less popular than Windows is the way to go. [EoT]
[SoT] it's a nasty one by things I read before, I think you might have to format anything that is infected by it, to make sure it is completly gone, plus I think there is a tool for WIndows to remove it [EoT]
[SoT] - Yeah, we already have a list of the infected computers, whcih total count is about two dozen out of the 1,500 sy stems we have on the network. [EoT] [SoU] - We have tools to remove it at work. It's just we didn't know where to start before. Now we know. [EoU]
[SoT] sometimes programs don't just add them selves to the menu when you install them into Ubuntu [EoT]
[SoT] - Unfortunately, I know. Quite stupid, but something I've tolerated since I've been on Ubuntu. [EoT]
[SoT] re installing the program, or logging out of Ubuntu usaully takes care of, apparantly you already know, plus you could launch it using the name on the command line, as I expect again you already knokw [EoT]
[SoT] - yeah, but unfortunately, we JUST dumped a truckload on educational software right around the time I started, so I cant imagine justifying to the board that me, the new guy (been there a year, but Im the youngest in the department) that we should switch over due to platform changes. [EoT] [SoU] - it really comes down to bad timing, and right now it's just an awful time for me cause I cant really push that card, ya know? [EoU]
[SoT] yeah [EoT]
[SoT] - Yeah, me too. But it's frustrating when I can't even get a damn application to work in Ubuntu and fire up, let alone actually utilize it to get rid of a virus. [EoT]
[SoT] You could delete the infected file using Ubuntu I expect, of course you got to know which one it is first [EoT]
[SoT] - which is where my problem lies :( [EoT]
[SoT] I am pretty sure there is something for Windows to remove it though [EoT]
[SoT] - I have tried the two programs "known" to remove conficker - and it hasnt removed it. [EoT]
[SoT] How many files do you have on the Flash drive? [EoT]
[SoT] - 8gb worth [EoT] [SoU] - I have files from work, drivers for all of the systems I work on, etc [EoU]
[SoT] I see so lots meaning going manuaully through them all to check that they are ok or not, would take ages [EoT]
[SoT] - yeah, it'd be a headache to manually do it. [EoT]
[SoT] Did you have any luck with the virus by the way? [EoT]
[SoT] - ACtually I stuck with ClamAV - and it DID indeed take care of Conficker. [EoT]
[SoT] good [EoT]
[SoT] - The ClamAV GUI from the Ubuntu wiki and the ACTUAL program looks very different, however my virus definition was up to date and it zapped it. [EoT] [SoU] - I actually dug up 16 viruses on my samba network drive, which is where all of the XP machines on my network back up to every night, so it was nice to dig them out of the backup drive too. [EoU]
[SoT] That's not good to have viruses on a backup drive [EoT]
[SoT] - Naw. Luckily in my case though, the infected files were in a share from a friends computer I worked on a month ago, so the infected files werent FROM my XP machines here, but it was still nice to see an infection on my samba drive and clamav get rid of them. It also verified that there werent any viruses that came from my XP machines here, so all is good. [EoT]
[SoT] You mean not nice to see an infection, but your happy that clamav got rid of them? [EoT]
[SoT] - yeah, that. :P Its been a long day. [EoT]
[SoT] Apparantly formatting is the only true way to make sure things like that are properly removed though [EoT]
[SoT] - oh yeah, I understand. [EoT]
[SoT] hmm [EoT]
[SoT] - I understand. I just know this chat is unusually sensitive towards certain things. I didn't want to offend anybody.. again. [EoT]
[SoT] any three letter abrivations are unlikely to be of much help in your question by the way [EoT]
[SoT] - pardon? [EoT]
[SoT] I mean I don't think you should put WTH or anything like that in your question [EoT]