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[SoT] nothing... hrmmm [EoT] [SoU] unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 19842 816/cupsd /var/run/cups/cups.sock is without the grepping [EoU]
[SoT] and you said you had "Listen 631" in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf? Have you tried restarting the cups service and looking for interesting output? Looks like cups logs to /var/log/cups/, check that out too [EoT]
[SoT] got it [EoT] [SoU] no, just aa-status [EoU]
[SoT] aa-complain is in /usr/sbin/, do you have it there? [EoT]
[BOS] Just don't stop/give up [EoT]
[SoT] no chance of that [EoT]
[SoT] I'm older than you, and I wish I started at your age [EoT]
[SoT] started what> [EoT]
[SoT] Linux.. networking. Developing an interest for that sort of things. And stay away from games [EoT] [SoU] Especially MMORPGs [EoU] [SoU] But don't forget to be your age :) [EoU]
[SoT] games... oops! im building a gaming computer as we speek er... speak* [EoT]
[SoT] Excellent :) [EoT] [SoU] Just stay away from everquest and world of warcraft and games like that [EoU]
[SoT] i have never heard of them... i play arcade games and also some spacey-type games [EoT]
[SoT] I spent 5 years playing EverQuest, I was in a guild (clan) that is now the best in the world. It screwed my "education" over. Luckily I'm doing an interesting education now [EoT]
[SoT] i will stay away, i want to go to William and Mary and study law, world of warcraft wont get me there [EoT]
[SoT] Good! You passed the exam. Good luck with lawschool [EoT]
[SoT] oh, lol, i thought you ment the college application [EoT]
[SoT] The exam of telling me the correct answer [EoT]
[SoT] yes, sir [EoT]
[SoT] because of parental guidance? [EoT] [SoU] Well they are rather non-violent. But that is about 0,001% of the damaging part [EoU] [SoU] They steal time. And lots of it. [EoU]
[SoT] oh, what do I know? [EoT]
[SoT] I'm glad you don't, really :) You can play them once you're a lawyer [EoT] [SoU] Hehe. Once you're done with education and got a job is what I meant. [EoU]
[SoT] lol [EoT]
[SoT] Name some of the games you play. Of course you know [EoT]
[SoT] i enjoy pac-man, battlezone II, galaga, dig dug [EoT]
[SoT] you? [EoT]
[SoT] i am 12 [EoT]
[SoT] No, only know the names. I only played mmorpgs [EoT] [SoU] 21 [EoU]
[SoT] exactly how old are you? [EoT]
[SoT] saying 22 would be more correct [EoT] [SoU] you'll have about 9 years of hands-on linux experience compared to me, if you don't give up :) I find that very cool [EoU] [SoU] when you reach my age I mean [EoU]
[SoT] i dont really have an alternative to linux [EoT]
[SoT] Ah. Lawschool... legit win xp copies. Gotcha [EoT]
[SoT] _jason: I am boycotting windows for several reasons ;) [EoT]
[SoT] You fascinate me [EoT]
[SoT] why? [EoT]
[SoT] Because you've discovered the path of true inner peace at the age of 12. It's fascinating [EoT]
[SoT] oh, i see [EoT]
[SoT] However, I fear windows vista will be good :/ [EoT]
[SoT] im not like the other kids, but I think it is a bad thing, I mean, I have lots of friends and everyone likes me, its just that im different, and I see that, and Im not sure if its good :/ [EoT]
[SoT] Same here. Whereas my friends likes to waste money on alcohol and cigarettes and "having fun", I often have to say no because I spend my money on an education. And sometimes that makes me feel bad. But in reality, I'm He-Man compared to them [EoT]
[SoT] well, good for you [EoT]
[SoT] In what way do you feel you're different? [EoT]
[SoT] i dunno, its kinda hard to explain er... well... im, um... like... i feel like i think differently, my brain works differently, im not like everyone else [EoT]
[SoT] Haha you just own [EoT] [SoU] I'm so on your level [EoU]
[SoT] i dont understand [EoT]
[SoT] Today I got a ride home from a friend. And his girlfriend was there. And she was yabbing away, and I was like "OH MY GOD she is stupid" inside me... it's as if I'm alot smarter than them. And I think in other ways aswell [EoT] [SoU] I can't really talk about that here [EoU] [SoU] Maybe if we both lived in Amsterdam and this wasn't #ubuntu [EoU]
[SoT] lol [EoT]
[SoT] I'll give you an example ok? A friend tried to fix his step-machine. You know, one of those workout machines. A nut had fallen off a screw. He couldn't fix it [EoT] [SoU] I tried, turned the nut the other way (since some screws are reversed) and it worked [EoU] [SoU] I'd say university [EoU]
[SoT] y'know what? [EoT]
[SoT] And that really fascinated him, and he started calling me "the fixer" [EoT]
[SoT] lol [EoT]
[SoT] No, tell me [EoT]
[SoT] i had my first dream... er... two nights ago, and everyone said that was weird, is it? [EoT]
[SoT] It's not weird, it just not normal according to social experience. Maybe you have dreamt before, and didn't know it was a dream. How can you define something, if you don't know how ? [EoT]
[SoT] ah, what a good point [EoT]
[SoT] Well don't get me wrong. I was a bit blunt saying it wasn't normal :/ I don't know how to talk to a 12 year old without perhaps saying something wrong. But you seem down to earth [EoT] [SoU] If I screw up it's not intentionally [EoU]
[SoT] you cant screw up if you are telling the truth [EoT]
[SoT] I think quantum physics would interest you. It would put the world in a totally different perspective [EoT] [SoU] Or perhaps make it all clear to you [EoU]
[SoT] i like quantum physics, it is not offered at my grade level, but I read about it all the time [EoT]
[SoT] Hehe, I hereby sentence you to the most fascinating 12 year old boy I've ever met [EoT]
[SoT] whoa... Im honored [EoT]
[SoT] A tip based off of my personal experience is to stay extremely critical to social information. Commercials and crap. It's brain-nuking at its best. Here's a scenario. A hospital lacks money to house all their patients in their own bed. A football stadium expands for over 3 mill $. Where is the logic? [EoT] [SoU] Does your parents know you're smart? [EoU]
[SoT] wow, i never thought of that, but consider this, there are millions of people eating very seldemly, but you and I eat three times a day, that to lacks logic [EoT]
[SoT] Maybe they don't want to bombard their cells with stimulative neurons, to live longer [EoT] [SoU] :P Well. Food makes us old and brittle [EoU]
[SoT] food = good [EoT]
[SoT] Well yes of course :) It contains important stuff. But it's ultimately what brings us down aswell [EoT] [SoU] In the rules of quantum physics at least [EoU] [SoU] Out of curiosity, what did you dream about? [EoU]
[SoT] *cough* um... nevermind that *cough* [EoT]
[SoT] Now you just make me feel bad :/ [EoT]
[SoT] i can tell you if you REALLY want me to, but you must PM me [EoT]
[SoT] No need :) [EoT]
[SoT] hey! [EoT]
[SoT] You disappeared yesterday [EoT]
[SoT] ha! [EoT]
[SoT] Hi Red-Sox [EoT]
[SoT] are you here? [EoT]
[BOS] Ive already asked this but just to make sure, I cant downgrade from 7.10 to 7.04 without reinstalling 7.04, right? [EoT]
[SoT] why do you want to downgrade? [EoT]
[SoT] 7.10 doesnt work on my computer, it completely messed up my comp so I need to go back to 7.04 but I wish I didnt have to reinstall it [EoT] [SoU] I think its because I have an ATI graphics card [EoU] [SoU] yes I did, it froze halfway through the upgrade so I had to reboot, then I tried to upgrade in recovery mode since it wouldnt boot but it doesnt work wither [EoU]
[SoT] you get an error? [EoT]
[SoT] I used to get an error saying no screens found but not anymore [EoT] [SoU] now it actually boots in ubuntu but its is completely messed up (firefox is gone, it doesnt recognise my flash drive) [EoU]
[SoT] now what happens? [EoT]
[SoT] yes I tried from apt-get but it says I have to repair all the broken stuff and when I do it removes a bunch of other programs at the same time [EoT]
[SoT] and you let it remove the packages? [EoT]
[SoT] no because thats how firefox was uninstalled so I stopped it [EoT] [SoU] is there any way to reinstall 7.10 without losing data [EoU]
[SoT] how did you upgrade? [EoT]
[SoT] I backed up my /home on a windows partition last night just to make sure. I upgraded from the update manager the first time, thats when it froze. then I used apt-get upgrade in recovery mode [EoT] [SoU] I dont know...how can I find out [EoU]
[SoT] run that command in brackets [EoT]
[SoT] I have to boot back into ubuntu so it might take a while [EoT]
[SoT] ah :) [EoT]
[SoT] should I do it in recovery mode or in normal mode in terminal? [EoT]
[SoT] if normal mode works ok use that [EoT]
[SoT] well now I tried to boot in normal mode and I get a blank screen [EoT]
[SoT] try ctrl alt f1 [EoT]
[SoT] didnt do anything [EoT]
[SoT] try booting into recovery mode then [EoT]
[SoT] alright Im in. so I just type this (apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop) [EoT]
[SoT] no brackets :) [EoT]
[SoT] ok my bad ^^ [EoT] [SoU] lol [EoU]
[SoT] no quotes ;) [EoT]
[SoT] it says Installed: (none) Candidate 1.43 and then talks about Version table [EoT] [SoU] it says E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [EoU] [SoU] last time I typed in that line it removed a binch os stuff such as firefox [EoU]
[SoT] ok, do this "less /etc/apt/sources.list" [EoT]
[SoT] ok I see sources.list [EoT]
[SoT] do you have the line "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted" [EoT]
[SoT] I have this except it is followed by universe multiverse [EoT] [SoU] and on top is the same saying feisty instead of gutsy [EoU]
[SoT] is the feisty line commented out? [EoT]
[SoT] no [EoT]
[SoT] oh dear :) [EoT]
[SoT] there is also a line saying deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted [EoT] [SoU] yes I did that, should I comment out the one saying deb-src about gutsy also ? and what about the cdrom thing [EoU]
[SoT] no you can leave them in, shouldn't make a difference [EoT]
[SoT] ok done [EoT]
[SoT] ok now, sudo apt-get update [EoT]
[SoT] yes through ethernet [EoT] [SoU] theres a bunch of failed lines [EoU]
[SoT] is it connected to the internet? [EoT]
[SoT] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' [EoT] [SoU] whats after /gutsy/ varies on different lines [EoU]
[SoT] does ping google.com work? [EoT]
[SoT] it says unknown host [EoT]
[SoT] ok try "sudo ifup -a" [EoT]
[SoT] no [EoT] [SoU] a bunch of error and failed stuff again [EoU]
[SoT] what error? if you're internet isn't working on there your best bet is probably to reinstall :/ [EoT]
[SoT] im gonna retry going into normal mode because it worked there yesterday [EoT]
[SoT] ok [EoT]
[SoT] ok Im in but its really messed up lol [EoT]
[SoT] ok :) is the internet working? :) [EoT]
[SoT] yes [EoT]
[SoT] ok try sudo apt-get update again [EoT]
[SoT] ok done [EoT]
[SoT] ok sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [EoT]
[SoT] same error as before with the apt-get -f install [EoT]
[SoT] ok do apt-get install -f [EoT]
[SoT] with the f after install or before [EoT]
[SoT] after? whatever it says on the error :) [EoT]
[SoT] it tells me E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages and then E: Unable to correct dependencies [EoT]
[SoT] which package is the error for? [EoT]
[SoT] yea lol [EoT]
[SoT] could you paste the full error to the pastebin [EoT]
[SoT] wait Ill find a way to put it on the paste thing [EoT] [SoU] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174/ [EoU]
[SoT] ok can you paste to that easily? paste your /etc/apt/sources.list too [EoT]
[SoT] ok [EoT] [SoU] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1175/ [EoU]
[SoT] ok does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work? [EoT]
[SoT] it says E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [EoT]
[SoT] it's trying to install feisty versions of those packages, so if we get the gutsy versions then install them manually it should work [EoT]
[SoT] sounds like something long painful lol. how do we do that [EoT]
[SoT] ok first do sudo apt-get clean [EoT]
[SoT] ok its done [EoT]
[SoT] ok now paste this command [EoT]
[SoT] I still get E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [EoT] [SoU] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1177/ [EoU]
[SoT] er 4.1 [EoT]
[SoT] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1178/ [EoT]
[SoT] ug. the candidate and the version table show different packages :( apt-get update should have sorted that out. [EoT]
[SoT] does sources.list.distUpgrade have any importance? because I opened it just to see and everything says feisty in there [EoT]
[SoT] it shouldnt, I think thats only used by the update manager [EoT]
[SoT] ok [EoT] [SoU] so the problem is that cpp thing? [EoU]
[SoT] well all those packages have the wrong version installed [EoT]
[SoT] why doesnt it let it install the right ones... [EoT]
[SoT] because of dependency errors, it's kind of a circular problem :( [EoT]
[SoT] is there a way to fix it [EoT]
[SoT] I'm uploading the correct gutsy versions in one package, this might work if you install them with dpkg [EoT]
[SoT] ok. well if it doesnt work Ill just reinstall it...I already saved my /home so I should be fine right? [EoT]
[SoT] yep shouldn't be a problem [EoT]
[SoT] ok so if i do have to reinstall, what will I have to do to get my stuff back once its done installing? just replace the /home folder by my old one? [EoT]
[SoT] http://rapidshare.com/files/64379102/untitled_folder_1.tar.gz.html [EoT]
[SoT] its downloading, what will I have to do with it [EoT]
[SoT] extract it to a folder, then in the terminal use cd to get to the folder, then sudo dpkg -i * [EoT]
[SoT] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179/ [EoT]
[SoT] hmm, does sudo apt-get remove compiz-plugins work? [EoT]
[SoT] no [EoT]
[SoT] what about sudo dpkg -r compiz-plugins [EoT]
[SoT] yes it worked [EoT]
[SoT] ok do that for the other 5 packages at the bottom of that error [EoT]
[SoT] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1180/ [EoT]
[SoT] ok. I really think a reinstall is going to be quickest at this point :/ sorry for wasting your time [EoT]
[SoT] ok thanks for helping though. so I just need to reinstall formatting the partition and then just replace the new /home by my saved /home ? [EoT]
[SoT] yep that should work, maybe only copy stuff from your backup home that you're sure you need [EoT]
[SoT] ok do you know if the firefox bookmarks are in my /home folder? [EoT]
[SoT] yes, they should be in .mozilla [EoT]
[BOS] hi does anyone know which gstreamer plugin to use for mp3 playing??? [EoT]
[SoT] you can download the codec [EoT]
[SoT] the place where i want to install doesnt have a net [EoT]
[SoT] can you download the package? [EoT]
[SoT] yeah i can download here and burn it on a cd [EoT] [SoU] its very tedious to build all dependencies for the three sets [EoU]
[SoT] hm [EoT]
[SoT] is it the good??? [EoT] [SoU] which one is tat??? [EoU] [SoU] so it would be easier if i get to know which package plays mp3 [EoU]
[SoT] I remember there is only one for mp3 and other formats [EoT]
[SoT] so i would need to build the whole of ugly ones?? [EoT]
[SoT] it's called GStreamer extra plugins [EoT]
[SoT] for right now i jus need mp3 [EoT]
[SoT] if you want to also play mpeg or divx etc, you should install GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin [EoT]
[SoT] hey will fluendo work??? [EoT]
[SoT] hm [EoT]
[SoT] tats a mp3 decoder... [EoT]
[SoT] try search ugly and type G [EoT]
[SoT] i want .deb [EoT]
[SoT] easy, just redownload and check only download [EoT]
[SoT] couldnt get u [EoT]
[SoT] check the one you want [EoT]
[SoT] using synaptic... [EoT]
[SoT] then you should be able to get the deb from the /var/cache/apt I think [EoT]
[SoT] but the other system is 7.04 and am on 7.10 [EoT] [SoU] yeah am doin tat..are u sure tat it plays mp3?? [EoU]
[SoT] this one maybe? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-518648.html [EoT]
[SoT] :) already checked it out [EoT]
[SoT] how about this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/musicvideophotos/C/codecs.html [EoT]