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sg-podcast_processed/#1 How We REALLY Got Started on Social Media. [YWx2m9it6Eg]/#1 How We REALLY Got Started on Social Media. [YWx2m9it6Eg]_99.mp3
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The closest advice we always attach to this question is do something that's the closest to your heart, or your skill set. Cause you can't fake it. Yeah. You could have- I mean, I mean, you can, but for how long? Correct. So, like, we, like, if people ask us, like, would you collaborate with, with, with, with us, and then put your face inside, can! Like, we can be there. You could get freaking, like,
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Emma Watson to be in your YouTube video, but how many videos is she gonna be in? Right? Like, let's say, When they stop, until they stop watching for her. Until they stop for Emma Watson, because she'll be like, normal already. Right. And then, then, then what? What are you gonna do that sustains you creatively, Right. that you could still see yourself waking up every morning, brushing your teeth, and then doing it?
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I would say if you want to get started, Yeah. look for something that you do naturally. Correct. Something that you find joy in.
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Perfect effort. Mm. I, I define, like, perfect effort where you are more than willing to, eh, to put effort into doing this. Okay? Not like you have to drag yourself out of bed to do this. Yeah. That's the best way to start, and don't, really don't think too much about,
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what you need as equipment because you'll figure it out. It will grow with you. Everyone has a great phone right now. That's the whole reason why we haven't talked about equipment because really that's how much of a factor it is when you start out. Equipment isn't a factor. It is not. I think we blabbed on a lot about our starting but that is really the honest reality of how we started out.
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And, and, I think we can, if you guys want to hear more, uh, we're going to talk more about like, the continuation of starting up. Yup. On the next episode.
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But for now. Until then, thanks for tuning in to the very first episode of The Takeaway Table Podcast. Uh, I'm Ming.
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I'm also Ming. And, uh, if you haven't figured out who's who right now, it's okay. We still haven't as well. So, I hope you got a takeaway, guys. Uh, see you in the next one, guys. See you in the next one. Peace out.
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Okay, okay, yeah. I have been on, like, the radio show, but it was, like, you know, I'm always just, like, co-hosting. Yeah. It's not really, like,
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I think you guys also heard it from, uh, the tabletop with Minghan and Mingyu before, that,
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A tough, I've had such a tough couple of years leading up to today, actually. And actually all of this came about because I was talking to Maggie one day on our usual catch up in a cafe. And she told me that she had an offer to do a podcast. And I was like, oh my God, how exciting.
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And as we were talking, Maggie decided to ask me like, hey. Would you be keen to host it with me?
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And it's a different challenge as well. Exactly. I think, like, talking, hosting with someone on a show.
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Um, the name of this podcast, I feel like we should give you guys a bit of a context, meaning, head over heels, like. We definitely should. What's the first thing you think about when we say head over heels?
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One, usually, it's about love. Falling head over heels for someone. But when we came out with this name with the rest of the team, we're like, you know what? We could give it a double meaning. You know, there's so many ways to do life, not just one way. Um, so yeah, instead of falling head over heels for someone, you could also fall, fall head over heels for yourself.
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Yeah, and basically the whole meaning of the show, it became so much deeper when we wrote down each word of, you know, the whole sentence and basically what we defined head over heels was, you know, starting with the heels. What is the heel? Tell us.
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What is the heel? Tell us. Well, it, it is, uh, essence of a woman, obviously. So, when, when you wear a pair of heels, it gives you that confidence, that, that, you know,
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Our mind, guys, is so, so powerful. When you really sit down, quiet your mind, and really tune into it, our mind can be so powerful, and it's really up to us to sort of like, really tap into that, and,
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You know, through all these challenges in life, I've really come to a place where I realized that, and being here with Maggie, we want to discuss all of our learnings and discovery while doing live, which is why we're here.
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Which is why I feel like the first topic for our first ever episode has to be falling head over heels for yourself, aka self-love.
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I love that. Um, I feel like, self-love, every time you talk about self-love, s- all, some people can think about is,
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I don't know. Go facial, uh, take a nice meal, uh, more superficial things. Mm. Right? Yeah. What do you, what do you think about when I say self-love?
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Self-love, to me, is a lot deeper, just cause, I feel. Because you're a deep person.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm definitely like a deep person. But I also learned that through the years, obviously. Um, and I think,
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Whenever I feel, or in the past few years, when I was feeling really down about myself, I knew immediately, like, something is lacking.
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I would, it was so much easier for me to not like something about someone. Mm-hmm. And get like really snappy about it. But then I realized, actually, actually it was me. Yeah. The whole time, you know? Yeah.
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And that's when I realized, shite, I really need to work on myself. Yeah. And this self-love journey, basically. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's true. Because for me, when, when I was younger, self-love actually meant buying new things for myself, and I feel that fleeting joy for that very short time. And then after a while, I feel like it just is never enough. It's never fulfilling. So, for me now, it's really this unconditional,
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It's more of a feeling and a practice of love and appreciation and acceptance for myself, if I make sense. Yes. Like this unconditional love for myself.
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I don't think I can make myself any lesser than I should. Yeah. Just because I'm not,
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The perfect version of me that I want to be. Yeah. All that.
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Good version. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Uh, so, yeah, to me, it's, self-love is not just all that self-care, um, facial, good meal, go out on a nice, luxurious holiday. It's so much more than that. And I, I think we should start seeing self-love in a different light.
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And start from the inside. Yeah. And not all these physical things that everyone and anyone can do, but the inside work. Yeah. That we should really focus on, which is what we will be talking about on this podcast. Yeah. This version of self-love.
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Lack of self-awareness as well can be a form of self-love, lacking of self-love. I think I was very aware of what I was doing.
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Just being sucked into this deep hole. Yeah. That,
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No matter how much I was practicing all this self-love,
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What, what were the self-love steps? Because it sound to me like it's so complicated, like almost undoable and unreachable that it's so hard for you to achieve in, in, in whatever you're telling me right now. Do you know what I mean?
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Comparing myself to people, social media didn't help me at all. It just sucked everything out of me. But the thing is, when it was happening, I didn't know that it was happening. Means you were not aware.
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Yeah. But I think my first step, my personal first step was to sign up for like the 10 day, uh, Vipassana silent. Yeah. Retreat. Meditation retreat. Yeah. That really helped me a huge, to, to lift a huge chunk out of, out of my. Yeah.
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Myself, uh, esteem, and putting it back on the right track, basically.
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Um, I think it's the same. For me, I, I was in a pretty bad space just about a week plus ago.
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I'm gonna have to be, you know, PR with client and get to know these people and understanding the brand and just delivering my work stuff, right? Mm-hmm. But turns out, the,
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It was such a, it was a nice surprise because on that trip was when I realized I really took time off and really not just, uh, really, really listen to myself and have conversations with myself, especially just before bedtime.
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Like, okay, today was a great day. Um, what did I learn? And how can I improve myself from this? And really just have that conversation that I feel like I've not had with myself for a long time.
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You know, because I was also in a bad place, so I couldn't really do that because the environment around me was so familiar. I, I, I had arguments in this home and I, I went through this in this place. It was familiar. I just couldn't, I just didn't get, yeah. Get yourself out of it. And I just needed to be out of that space. Yeah. In a new environment. Mm-hmm. And it really helped.
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It really, really did. And when I came back, I actually asked on my IG stories, which I always do, um, what does self-love mean to you and how do you practice it? Mm-hmm. And I was so surprised with the amount of answers I got. Really? What did they say? Yeah. Because I was gonna,
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Expect people not to reply because every time people, I guess when you see the word self-love on Pinterest, on, uh, Instagram,
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For some people, it's just a nice selfie with that self-love quote. Oh, okay. Is that how you see it? No, some people. Oh, you've seen it. Okay. Yeah. It feels like that's what self-love is on the shallow portion of social media.
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But, I wanna go deeper, right? So, I, I, I shared how I feel on social media. I got really deep for a bit, and I then asked a question. Yeah. So, I kinda give them a bit of context of how my version of self-love is. And you know what? I am freaking in love with your answers, and I'm gonna share it with you right now, right here. Nice. Tell us. Uh, let's see, let's see. What's your favorite ones?
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Uh, going on a retreat, or, you know, it's really from the inside. Like, your thoughts, and gathering your thoughts, and for me, it's because, just yesterday, when I came back from a job, Yeah. for my, my work trip, I got a text about this job that was already confirmed.
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Yeah, and for me, not just opportunity cost was lost. Yeah. Cuz I kinda blocked off my date, meaning I already kinda rejected a couple of other offers that was gonna happen on that day.
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Am I not good enough that you decide to change your mind
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My tank of self-love was pretty full. Mm-hmm. Or, or, my, my tank of love was pretty full. So I, I was in a good position to be able to,
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Handle that situation. So I was counting my blessings. And I told myself, you know what? It's okay, Maggie. One door closes, the other will open. And maybe this one is just, isn't meant for me. But I knew for a fact that if this happened a week ago, when I was in that bad space,
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It, it really, really comes from the inside, and it really makes a difference in how you live your life, because, honestly, if I let it affect me, the rest of my day is gone already, and I can say goodbye, and then I'll be like,
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Just the self-love practice is so important. It really does change the way you live life. Because to be honest, if this happened to me a week ago when I was in that bad space, I was, my self-love tank was completely empty. Yeah. I wouldn't have been able to handle it as well as I did yesterday.
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Good job. And taking the time to be very conscious and actually doing this in your time off. I think that's why you're here. And that's why I'm so proud of you. Thank you.
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Yeah. Well, that's another story for another day. Yes, guys. But, what about you?
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love herself, or, you know, practice self-love, and that's something I can definitely relate to. Mm-hmm. Um, at the moment, I'm not currently working full-time, but when I was, um,
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But, um, yeah, like, like, recently, I drove all the way down to Sremban at 11pm just to catch up with a friend. You crazy girl. Yeah, my friend came back and I wanted to see him, so I drove all the way down because I knew, you know what, we're getting older. If I don't catch up with him and I don't make this drive, if he gets married, I'm gonna lose him!
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Um, it was like the best thing I did in a really long time, and I really,
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I found driving up and down to KL during my college days one of my most, um,
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You know, ah, psychotherapy. Actually, it's called, um, they, they like, you know, psycho you.
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Because I'm the kind, I mean, if you know me, right, back in the days when I was dating other people, I can never break up no matter how toxic that relationship was.
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Exactly. You know what I mean? And I think on that guilt note, guys, guys, girls, if you're listening to this, if anyone around you, guilt trips you into doing or making a decision, you know, this person is not there for your best interest. Get rid of that person or tell the person off.
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That's not a person you want in your life to help you flourish and to help you empower you because guilt-tripping is not empowering. Yeah.
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Self-love, the most. Oh my gosh, I do have a couple. I think you mentioned it earlier during the podcast. I did.
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If you guys don't know, I went through a whole phase and years of fluctuating weight. I was very, very skinny at one point. I am about 174cm tall. So, 5 feet 8, around, they were both around the same height. Pretty gigantic for an Asian girl. But, yeah, I,
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I am 60 now, 59, 60. Now. That's fine. Very fit, very fit. I know lah, I go work, I have to, you know.
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But yes, what I'm trying to say is, when I gained a whole ton of weight, so I was about 15 kilos heavier than I was,
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I find it so hard to love myself. I find it so hard to love myself.
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I hated myself so much that I was actually contemplating to do liposuction.
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I'm not joking right now. And I did all I could just to lose that weight. I, um, I went for all kinds of diets, even though it was hurting me more than anything. Like, fad diets. Fad diets that, the ones that you basically don't eat and drink water every day. Oh, no. And just eat fruits. I was,
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I kept telling myself that. If I can fit into these jeans again, I will feel better about myself.
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Right. You know, one of those things? Yeah. I felt that way for a long time, and, and, it was tough.
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I, I wonder why. I look at myself in the mirror. I just hated myself. I didn't want to take any photos of myself. If I look back, right?
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I barely have any photos of myself during that point of time when I was slightly big. And I remember this very much. I kept going back to my throwback photos, photos of when I was skinnier. I kept looking at it, staring at it, and tell myself, I wish I'm skinny again. I wish I look like that again. I wish,
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I regret calling myself fat when I was skinny, because now I really am damn fat.
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You know, I'm sure some of you have been through that before, or maybe you're going through that now. I'll be honest with you, your self-love tank,
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I feel like it may be a bit low because I couldn't help but to hate myself.
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I couldn't choose to love, because at that time, I think we could choose between loving and hating. I was, I kept choosing to hate and hate and hate myself, on myself and my body.
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Okay, we're talking about moments, right? Sorry, I was gonna ask you, like, so what are you gonna, like, so, people who are tuning in right now, who are, you know, in like, uh,
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And eventually, I started embracing the way I was, and I was just telling myself, Maggie,
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This is you right now, and this is a part of you, that will always be a part of you, and it's okay.
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My body is changing, my body is growing, and that's fine.
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So, I don't want you guys to beat yourself up for not looking a certain way.
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And I think to remember as well that no matter what kind of body size you're in, like, it really doesn't matter as long as you pay attention to your strengths as a human. Yeah. And your quirks, you know, your personality and all that kind of stuff. I just didn't want it to come off as like, you know. Of course not. Yeah. But yeah, I think.
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I think, what I'm, yeah, the reason why I said that was because that was when I, I myself needed self-love the most. Yeah. But right now, I'm not as skinny as I was before. Yeah. In fact, I am still much, much heavier than I was when I was 20, 52 kilos. But,
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I've never embraced and loved myself any more than I have now. Right. When I look at myself, I see some muffin top, I'm like, it's alright, it's part of being a woman. Yes. I see some flaps over here, my foldings when I sit down.
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That's a, body image is one of the other things we would definitely delve into. Yes. But not today.
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Yes, and, uh, being in pageants, if anyone is curious and are wondering, let us know if you want to hear us talk more about that, okay? But, uh, moments that I, what, needed self-love the most,
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Oh my god, in the last few years. Um, but for me, it's that whole, like, reminding myself to not compare myself. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Situation. Yeah. Um, and in that time as well,
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Ah, it's okay. I like, I like, literally, do not feel anything at all. But it took me such a long time to actually get here. But this weight issue really like, freaking gets you. You know what, we're gonna talk about this
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23, I don't remember. Quite young lah, I was still young. And I, and I heard stories that he was already with someone else. Okay.
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And I heard that he was already cheating on me. No. While he was with me. That's why he ghosted me because he already had this other girl. I'm not gonna go too deep into that. We'll save that for another day. Because we're talking about self-love here, right? I couldn't love myself. I realized that.
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Wah, so stupid. I stayed there for so long. I cry, cry, cry, thinking that he was the one who walked away. He was the one who got away. I'm like, you stupid girl.
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Oh, why he don't like me? Is it because I'm too fat? Is it because I'm not beautiful enough? Is it because I'm too far away from him? Because it was a long distance relationship.
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I didn't love myself at all at a time that I seek it from other people.
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You know? Yeah. Is why it makes sense. Yeah. Like, I was finding that love from this guy who completely ghosted me. Even then, I was still longing for it and still wanted it.
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Yeah. That was when I felt like, gotta wake the f**k up, Maggie.
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