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And so, yeah, struggling with, with anorexia a little bit when I was in high school. And then afterwards, when I was older, um, when I was in Melbourne going through like a really bad bout of depression. Yeah. Then turning to binge eating. Mm. So I gained like 10 kilos in,
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Just a couple of months. Yeah. Wow. And so that completely threw my body out on another loop. Yeah. Um, so it's just been a lot of, of that. Yeah.
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I'm in a much better place. I think because I'm in a much better place mentally.
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Um, that reflects in my relationship with food as well. Yeah. Because I'm not, I'm not eating because I'm sad. Yeah. Or, or not trying to eat because of, you know, I want to look a certain way. Yeah. It's, I feel like because I'm in a better place mentally, I'm able to just, you know, eat when I'm hungry. Yeah. Eat when I need my body to, you know. Yes. Yeah. You're not emotionally eating.
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But yeah, I think I can completely relate. And, well, I'm gonna add on to that. Yeah. Because when you said eating in a pandemic, I started going to therapy. Um.
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About a couple of years ago when I was really struggling with binge eating, and I told my therapist, like, I'm eating literally so much, I've gained so much weight, I'm so insecure right now. And she told me, you know, you're going through something, you're going through depression, you're going through anxiety, and your body's trying to deal with it and cope.
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And if what your body needs right now, is to eat that little bit extra,
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Then maybe that's okay for now. And, you know, you know what the causes of your depression are. And as you work through that, your relationship with food will get better as well. And I think that's something really important to remember is that life is all over the place. It is. It's so true. And if you are, you know, making it so hard for yourself to even enjoy a meal just because you're having a bad day, I think that's not the way life should be lived.
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I agree. I mean, if I have to, I mean, I don't count my calories, but I used to when I was trying to lose my weight. I tried all kinds of diets, um, even diets that requires me not to eat.
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Um, for consuming this fat burner pills.
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Nothing is worth risking your body for, just to get that compliment from that somebody. Oh, yeah. Just to fit into that dress, just so I can, you know, not get called fat. So what if I'm fat? So what if I gain a bit of a weight? You know what I mean? Right. Yeah.
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The worth of our body is so much more than just the number, so much more than the size of our dresses, the size of our clothes, and the way we look. Right.
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of teenagers, especially, they go through this. Um, actually, I went through it when I was in college. Yep. I would not eat the whole day.
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But I didn't know. At that point, I didn't know it was binging. I just didn't eat the whole day thinking, yeah, I'm gonna lose weight. And then I didn't realize, like, at 8 PM, you're, like, starving. And then you're just, like, you know. Eating more than you should have. Yeah. And then you actually eat more calories or, uh, what, you know, um, food than you would have eaten throughout the day. Yeah. I, I don't know.
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Yeah. I mean, my basic rule for people who want to go on a diet, I quote diet because I'll come back to that later, um, is that everything with moderation.
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I don't know, what is it, like a juice diet. Yeah. And expect, you know, cuz I, I know a lot of people go on juice diets, and yes, they do lose a lot of weight, but it comes back on. Water retention.
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Yes, exactly. Exactly. And there's this formula that we all, you know, didn't study. We just follow these diets. Yeah. Yeah.
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And also another thing that I think, um, because Siu Lim and I are both instructors, fitness instructors. I just also want to put it out there that,
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There's nothing wrong with wanting to lose weight and wanting to look a certain way. I don't want to, you know, like, shame that. No, nothing wrong with that. As much as we want to normalize normal bodies, you can still have a normal body and want to look a certain way. And that's completely normal. That's human. We always want something that we don't have. It's okay to have a goal. Yeah, to have a goal.
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Put in the work. Yes. Don't expect to look a certain way when you're not working out and eating rubbish all day. Oh, yeah. And then complain about it. Definitely. So that's, you know.
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I think it's really just more about how you're approaching working out. I think my relationship with like, food and fitness now, it's, you know, where in the past, it's like, okay, I'm gonna go to the gym and I need to do this, this, this, because I wanna lose this amount of weight by this time. And I wanna, my body to look this specific way. And so I'm only gonna eat salads. Yeah. It's very restrictive. And I was going.
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You know, to the gym from a place of, I want to look a certain way, and there's so much pressure around it.
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And then that completely changed when I started going to the gym telling myself, okay, I'm doing this because I want to take care of my body. I want to feel good.
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I wanna, you know, make sure that I'm still gonna be healthy 10 years down the line. Love that. And, actually, I started, I think I really started getting into exercising more,
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Around a time when I struggled a lot with anxiety, because I was like, okay, I'm really, really anxious right now. I feel like I'm going to have a panic attack. So I would just go and run 30 minutes. And I hate running.
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But it was just a way to release whatever I was feeling, and I just felt that going and exercising with the aim to be healthy and take care of myself,
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was just so much more sustainable than when I just went to, okay, I want to look like this. Because then once you look like that, what do you do? You stop going. Yeah. Correct. I, I. What's next? Yes, exactly. Yeah, you know.
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have the right intention for it. Yes. Because when you go in, you're just like, you know, you just wanna lose weight. Yes. And get skinny. It, it becomes very frustrating. Yeah. And like you said, it causes anxiety. Yeah. But if you just aim for just feeling good. Yeah. And you put less pressure on yourself.
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Let's say you don't lose that weight after putting in this much effort, then what?
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How would you feel? You just feel shitty than before because you, you feel like you did not achieve what you planned to do. And that, that lost its point. Yeah. So, I think shifting your intentions,
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Are so important. Like, even as a coach in class, I would never focus on the way someone looks, but I would focus on their strength.
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Their movement, their range of motion. Oh, wow. Technical stuff. So, you know, stuff like that, being able to move a certain way when before this, they can't even get into a squat and now they can. So those are the things I focus on and that's the thing you need in life. Yes.
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I think especially because sometimes people go in with unrealistic goals as well. Like, if you're going to the gym, and, you know, your body is set in a certain way, let's say you have wider hips, and then you're telling yourself, okay, I'm gonna go to the gym, and I'm gonna lose weight and be a size two.
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And they feel so disappointed when they, when, when, when I say that, because my honest truth to them is like, I can help you.
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Feel fitter. Feel fitter. But I cannot help you lose your love handle, or your, you know, it's, it's the way the body's, you know, is created, that, like, you know, you just, you just can't just lose that one certain spot.
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Are you Chinese, bae? I'm half Chinese, half American. Right. But I grew up here, so. So, okay. Asian, yeah.
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Um, I think growing up in this Asian community, people are generally pretty harsh on the way we look.
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I think that's something that all of us, if you're Asian, can relate to. I'm not sure about other cultures, but every time during Chinese New Year, the first thing they would pick on is, or ask is not, how are you? Wow, fit already, ah?
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And then I get insecure about myself. Oh, where, did I really gain weight? And,
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And, and it's just a whole thing that spirals down to a whole other thing. Yeah, what's the worst thing that your family's, family members ever said to you? Um.
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They call me 嘎嘎 kaka, my Chinese name, 家家, 嘎嘎 kaka.
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Wah, you look pregnant, ah. Don't eat so much, lah. Don't touch all these cookies, ah, today. I'm like, what? I had a really rough year. I just want to enjoy my time with my family, and here you are telling me not to eat those snacks. So that really,
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I think, well, I think very similarly, it's like you go back for Chinese New Year and I have one auntie that I am used to just when I first see her, she will say, wow, skinny already, or wow, fat already. Like, it's either one or the other. Always, right? Like, it's never like nothing. It's always one or the other. And I got so used because she's so blunt.
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Well, not so much my size, but my color of my skin. Oh, okay. You get that a
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Uh, I'm a bit on the tanner side. No, super tan, really. Just tanner than my sister. That's it. I just look slightly tanner than my sister. And I am, I don't conform to the, the standard,
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Very fair looking, long hair, black long hair, big eyes. I've got nothing like that. I'm, I don't look anything like, I'm, I'm the total opposite. I'm tall, I'm big size, I'm, I'm tan, and I've got,
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Regular eyes, you know. And, yeah, for, um, growing up, I just remembered always being told that my sister is the prettier one.
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Break the cycle. Yeah. I mean, my kids, it's, themselves, get it, uh, from random people. Like, we live in a condo. Yeah. And some, I remember this one incident where, uh, and it scarred my children for life, okay? I walked, I went in the elevator, and, with my four kids, yeah, there were a lot of people in the elevator. At COVID times, I don't know what's gonna happen. But, um,
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An auntie and uncle came in, and then they just kind of looked at my kids up and down, they looked at me up and down, they turned around, they were like, why you so fair, your kid so dark? What? And my kids are very aware about this.
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I had to, I mean, that one incident really destroyed the rest of my, because I've, ever since after that, I constantly had to remind all my kids, you're beautiful. If you were in California, if you were in Australia, oh my God, they would love your tan.
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And all these people just praised my kids. They were like, telling them like, wow, you know, your tan is amazing. Where did you go? You know? But, um, that, that helped. Thank goodness that happened, because it helped build back their confidence.
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Yeah. So, I mean, even at a young age, they, um, people can get, you know, the, the body, you know, self, self-security? Yeah, insecurity. Insecurity.
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hateful and dissatisfied with your own body and the way you look. And that's how it grows into this whole thing called insecurity. Right. And I,
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Right. And I, yeah. Sorry, I just wanna, I think one thing that is so important, that is like a PSA to everybody out there, is don't say something about someone's appearance that they can't fix in five minutes. Oh, yeah. You know?
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Amen to that. Uh, 100%. Cuz if you're picking on somebody's hair, you're picking on their skin color, they're picking on the size of their nose, or, you know, whatever it is, their weight. If it's not something that they can immediately go to a mirror and change, don't bring it up. You're just gonna make them feel more insecure and bad about something that they can't change. Yeah. What do you even expect from saying that? Yeah, I do, I do want to.
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Yeah, I do, I do, I do. I'm saying that. Hey, you gain some weight. Like, sometimes, I just don't know how to react, because, well, yeah, I, I went through a year of depression, and I've been just binge eating to cope with myself.
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You know, like, how am I supposed to even respond to a question like that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, completely, I could relate a hundred percent. Right.
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Also, I don't know about you guys, and to those of you who are listening,
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Thank you. But instead, I would go, Oh, no, babe, look at me. I actually gained weight. Oh, no, I ate so much. So that was a habit I had.
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Making myself go through all these things that my body did not deserve.
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Yes, yes, and experience, and we have to experience all that to see the good. Uh, I think, I believe that, you know, as we get older, we start to, we should, anyways, appreciate our own body. We should appreciate what we have instead of criticizing ourselves.
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Yeah. And also, like, just shifting the focus to instead of the way we look,
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Oh, your thighs look big. Oh, you don't have a thigh gap. Oh, you look, you've got thunder thighs. You got flaps here. So, I'm just so sick of it, you know, like, people do still do that. But, I don't take it too personally these days. I would,
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Um, just kind of brush it off and maybe respond with something else like, thank you. But,
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When a person comes in with that low self-esteem and they do one hour of exercise, you know, get their, getting their heart rate up, getting, you know, getting fit, it's sweating a bit there. I mean, it switches from black to white.
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Because they, suddenly after that one hour, they feel amazing. They feel confident. They feel like they can, they're a different person. They can rule the world. Yeah. And I love seeing that transition. Yeah. In, in an hour.
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So that's why I always, you know, I'm always like, you have to go work out, you know, that is my go-to, you know, anyone that feels sad about something and, uh, you know, insecure or whatnot, it's always that.
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Yeah. But then there's also this thing called social media.
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I just think no matter who you are online, regardless of if you have, you know, 200 followers, or you have 2,000, or 20,000, 200,000, you do have an influence, right? At the end of the day,
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And, you know, if you have somebody looking up to you, then you have a responsibility to them in that sense to, to show them that, hey, it's okay if you have breakouts or, hey, it's okay if you have flabs and,
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You know, like, it's, it's a normal thing. And if you have that, you know, influence on other people, do you want to use that for good and, and teach people that it's okay to, you know, go through all of these things? Or do you want to show them?
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Hey, I literally never break out. I always look flawless. Yeah. You know, if you don't look like this, then what have you been doing with your life? Like, obviously, that's not what we're trying to project onto people. Yeah. Especially if you have a younger audience. Yeah.
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In terms of the messaging that comes on social media, I think in the beginning of,
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Instagram, none of this were a norm. Like, everyone wanted to just put the most beautiful shot, the most perfect curated image on social media to portray how great my life is and yada yada. But I think now there is this movement of positive, body positivity, which I absolutely love.
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Like, Bei, you mentioned about authenticity and being honest, and I think you do such a great job at it.
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And just influencing the people in, with the right light. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Do you ever struggle with it though?
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I feel guilt and I feel responsibility sometimes as well as I feel sad for people who sometimes, you know, they'll see a picture of me and it's not my intention to portray myself in a certain way. Yeah. But I, I'm, I'm aware that I'm built taller and lankier and to some people that's an, you know, an idealistic body type, you know? Um, but.
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In a way, I feel bad, and I don't want to ever make it seem like this is the only body type that's, that's, you know, the best, or beautiful. And I will get people younger than me who are struggling to love themselves and love their bodies, and they'll, you know, they'll message me.
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I wanna look like you. What kind of workouts do you do? Um, you know, what's your diet? What do you eat?
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And that always breaks my heart. Yeah. Cuz, you know, I, I want people to, to, you know, do everything in moderation, and that tends to be my advice, like you said previously, to do everything in, in moderation,
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You know, if you're sad today, it's okay to eat a bag of chips. Yep. You know, if you're feeling good today, it's okay to go to the gym and then eat a salad. Like, what does your body need? Do that, and wherever your weight lands on at that point, that's what's right for you. Agree. You know? And I just feel, like,
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There is a huge responsibility if you have people following you, and especially if you have younger people following you. Oh, yeah. You are affecting, you know,
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Your mental health. Like, I think about who I was in high school, who I looked up to at the time, and, and, In some ways,
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In some ways, you're shaping their belief, you know? Yeah. If they're constantly being bombarded with picture-perfect photos, that's what they want. That's why I feel it's also important to really do a social media cleanup once in a while. Yes. I agree. Yeah. Choose who you want to follow. Yeah. Choose your intentions because
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That's, I know, social media is just social media, but it, it's also what you'd look at every single day, what you're facing every single day, and the, the subconsciously kind of condition the way you think, the way you do, the way you want things.
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Yeah. I recently put out how, how tall I was really and my weight. Okay. And this was interesting because a lot of people were just shocked that, because, that I'm shorter than what, because I mean, I do get people that come meet me at like random places and they see me and they're like,
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Like, upset, yeah, subconscious about my height. I used to feel like, because, you know, growing up in the States, everyone's like six foot.
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Came to Asia, and I was like, okay, I'm actually an average height, okay? Yeah, yeah. Like, but, um, being, you know, on, what I love about
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How, when I announced that I was actually only 5'2 at 53 kilos, it made everybody feel so much better. Really? Because they felt like, oh, so, but you would look so tall, but you're actually, and you could, yeah, you're actually like, you know, not, not 40 something kilos or, you know, or, you know, 5'9, 6'.
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I don't know. It didn't, I, I mean, I guess it mattered because, I don't know, maybe they thought,
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Yeah, yeah, like, oh, is that, you know, I mean, I, I've learned to be proud of my height now. I, I really don't mind. I, before I used to always have to wear heels to make myself look taller. Oh, my gosh. I think my,
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Oh, my gosh. I think my, I'm the other way around. I don't know about, she's quite tall. We're both quite tall. So, I think to give you guys, um, you listeners some context, I'm 174. So, that's about five feet eight. Okay. I'm 172. Yeah. So, we're about the same height. So, growing up,
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Yeah. 扫脱。like, the odd one out. Like, I will stand at the end of the line in class, because I'm always the tallest, and I'm always the last to get things, because. That's funny. I'm the first.
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This is exactly what my mom said. Stop wearing heels. You can't, you won't find men like that. You're gonna scare them. You scare them away. Nobody wants girl that's so big and stuff. I'm like,
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Oh, wow. Even until today, actually, I think, subconsciously, I do not enjoy wearing heels. That's one. But, I, if I don't have to, I won't. Because I know if I do, then I'll tower over everyone else, and then I'll look, Yeah.
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I mean, as you can see in the example here, you're, you guys are tall. Yeah. And I'm short. And we all have, at the end of the day, we all had like, kind of the same problem. Correct. Yeah.
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Basically. I wanna circle back to what you said about, um, not knowing why people are so excited and happy that, to find out that you're, you know, shorter than they thought you were.
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And I think it's just because maybe one, you know, there's so much bad to talk about with social media. For sure. Yeah. But the good thing is that there are so many,
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More people who are allowed to be in this space of being so-called a role model or, or someone that somebody might look up to, and that you have that opportunity to reset what the beauty standards should be, you know, to your audience at least, you know, that it's okay to look like this or to look like that, like, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day.
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It's about how you feel. Exactly. It's like, I keep going back to that. It's about how you feel and how, how confident you are about yourself. Confidence is something that everybody keeps asking me. How do you build your confidence? How do you build confidence? That's a long answer. I think to be confident.
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